Last week the VIC Department of Health made it compulsory to wear face masks
when leaving the house in Melbourne and some Aussies feel they are exempt from
wearing face masks. A woman dubbed “Bunnings Karen” refused to wear
a face mask when she entered a Bunnings store. She proceeded to get into an
argument with employees claiming they were discriminating against her and nobody
can make someone wear a mask. LiveTribers, should do you agree that masks should
be mandatory? Have you been wearing one? Was "Karen" in the wrong for
refusing to wear a face mask?
Posted by on 27 Jul 2020
Absolute nonsense. It's another example of useless politicians trying to appear
to be doing something when in reality they are doing nothing.
Face masks do nothing other than make you look stupid and feel very
uncomfortable. There are far better ways to protect yourself and others than
this throwback to outlaws in Western movies.
I am glad to hear that you are such an expert Kelstra. Perhaps you should be
advising the Health Minister and WHO since you seem to know so much about face
masks. I will take politicians' advice over yours any day, as they actually
listen to the health experts!
Absolutely Bunning Karen was in the wrong. She was wanting to enter private
property with a strict condition of entry, end of story. Is a 10-year-old
allowed to enter a Hotel, No. Is a Male allowed to enter a Women's Only Fitness
club, No. Is a Petafile allowed to loiter around schools ... If you think that's
OK, you need your head read. Rules are Rules and people should obey them and not
try to manipulate.
Of course, face masks should be mandatory. SPREADING THIS DISEASE TO VUNERABLE
MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY OFTEN LEADS TO THEIR DEATH!!! Wearing a face mask when
you go out is a very minor inconvenience compared to the death of someone's
parent or grandparent.
It's not hard to understand that there are rules that govern what we need to do
to live in this world harmoniously with each other. If you cross a road the law
says it's wrong for you to get run over. It's nice to wear thongs in summer but
you can't in a pub because glasses get broken and thongs aren't much protection
for your feet. It's better if you put your shirt on so we don't have to see your
fat guts wobble past for another drink. Lots of places won't accept cash
(tradies still love it) because it can spread contamination for hours. If a
business says you have to park in a marked bay and you stick the ute in the rose
garden it's not gonna be a big surprise when you come out to see your pride and
joy looking real hot, and look how low that machine's sitting. Once you get the
wheels out of the back and put 'em back on it'll look better and you'll be able
to put it over there in the parking bay like I told you to when you got here.
Then we get this goose that claims she was discriminated against for not wearing
a mask. She wasn't. She was told that it was a condition of entry that masks be
worn. Same as hard hats, safety boots and Hi Vis if you want to get on site.
Shirt and footwear if you want to get into a pub. If you don't follow the safety
rules you don't have permission to stay in that area. If Bunnings says masks,
that's what you do. If you think its an invitation to argue you're wrong, it's a
warning that any minute you're going find your precious bum dumped in the
biggest puddle in the car park.
security company that bungled the quarantine in the first place, if that hadn't
have happened, if people hadn't been allowed off the Ruby Princess we may have
had it under control instead of a second wave
This whole covid-19 situation that we are all in I don't think Karen is in the
wrong but in a way she is see it is mandatory when asked to wear a face mask
within a shop should she have called the police only if they laid hands on her
other than that no I don't think she should have she wants to shop with him the
stores of a shopping centre for then of course she has to wear it and isn't it
mandatory anyway the only way to stop this crap going around let alone self
isolation it's just one big hopes to begin with isn't it
Just a little advice in that your message would be easier to read when trying to
put your point across if you used full-stops and punctuations as it is hard to
read without them and shows more clarity and readability. Don't you think?
Karen was going into Bunnings Store,it doesnt matter if the rule was to remove
your shoes.,be grateful your allowed to shop there.Take your shoes off and go
in,put your mask on and go in.
Very simple,very easy,respect their store.
I dont deal well with drama queens,attention seekers or spoilt brats.
I think this rule should have been imposed in the beginning of covid pandemic
(March 2020), so that all people get used to it by this time period. these rules
need to be toughen with heavy fines, if not, people will not take this matter
seriously just as that lady. Because in a country like Australia, people are
taught to be independent and children tend to talk back even to their parents
because of its culture compared to Asian countries. people are not considering
rules unless there are heavy fines associated with. still people are allowed to
go outside and do shopping. I think in a time like this pandemic curfew should
be imposed and should have strict rules in place. without being strict, it will
be hard to control these people as well as this pandemic.
I would always wear a face mask when I go outside, and karen was extremely wrong
in her behavior. This happens because most people do not care what is happening
outside and carry out their tasks as usual. some people are behaving like there
is no risk at all for them from the covid 19, so they get distracted when
someone says on adhering to rules.
having a system is not enough, applying it in a practical manner is equally
important in a situation like this. we can clearly see how so called 'developed'
countries are managing affects from this pandemic, compared to other countries.
I take umbrage at your disrespect of Australians saying our culture is not as
good as the Asian culture in bringing up children. Quite frankly I would much
prefer independence to blind obedience.
Look at the other countries around the world. 1000's are not wearing masks and
demonstrating against them.
Most Australians are following the rules/law and it is just a few morons who are
Of course she was wrong. These silly people with silly ideas who just want to
get their heads on social media or TV etc. She has popped up a few times now
sprouting the same rubbish and filming herself. Now she is telling us she is
some high priestess or witch or healer or some such ridiculous notion and thinks
she has healed so many people etc.
There have been others who have also done the same thing and some have been
arrested now and will be fined.
What is so hard about wearing a mast which will save others becoming sick or
oneself for that matter at best or killing someone.
These people who seem to think they have the right to flout the rules and sprout
some rubbish they have taken off the internet need to wake up to themselves. We
had no active virus in Qld and now due to two women lying on their forms have
entered and gone everywhere whilst infected and already one of their friends has
tested positive. 100's of people are getting tested, schools closed as are aged
care facilities, restaurants, supermarkets and more all due to their stupid and
Yes, if the government says wear a mask then just do it or wear one if you want
to anyway. What is the big deal. Just make sure they are the right masks and
worn correctly. If everyone does their bit we will save lives and limit people
becoming ill with it.
And another comment to Bunnings here. Young inexperienced staff should not be
put in the position that they were. A senior manager, wearing a badge which
clearly said, MANAGER, should be managing the entry, and with the plain and
simple statement to Karen "Madam please wear a mask or get back in your car and
In my working life of 45 years I was a Manager for various corporate entities in
this country and I would never have relegated my authority to subordinate staff
as I know how nasty the general public can be, and have had to call many out on
And most of them, were the reason for my decision to retire when my time came.
if you have a Certificate of Registration of Birth, then you are owned by the
Crown as must do everything the elected controllers say FACT. Everything
"Registered" is owned, you only possess the right to use it to the exclusion of
others. Study International Law for 20 years and read HALSBURYS LAW.
Pretty simple really....wear a mask to reduce spread and reduce risk to self and
family. How hard can it be? How ignorant and selfish some humans are. ThankGod
most of us try to do the commonsense thing for the good of all.Mind you our
Media ensure that non mask wearers get their 15 seconds of fame which I suspect
is why some do it!!
I think Karen was just displaying her democratic right , without the foresight
of potential problems down the track . I think she should have just 'copped it
on the chin ' or mouth . And think about others , it really is not a big ask
and selfish of her . It surprises me that in this beautiful nation and our laid
back lifestyle along with our unofficial catch cry of " You look after your
mates " . I certainly won't be looking out for her , she seems to have all the
laws are changing as new information comes to light. At the time "Karen" was in
Bunnins]gs Science and Medical evidence suggested the masks WOULD reduce the
risk of spread. Therefore it is up to each of us to keep up with the
ever-changing laws. If, like "Karen" that does not happen, the individual is
either negligent for not keeping up with the news updates, or blatently arrogant
in their regard for others and her own
Masks should definitely be mandatory in Melbourne. Yes I have worn one,
although it is not compulsory where I live. They keep you and others safe.
"Karen" was definitely in the wrong and just trying to cause trouble. If she
had a good reason for not wearing a mask, she just had to say so. She obviously
doesn't know the law or doesn't want to know the law. Thank goodness there
aren't too many people like her.