Should Violent Offenders Be Given a Second Chance?

In case you missed it, rapper Chris Brown was charged and convicted of felony assault in 2009 when he beat up his then girlfriend, Rihanna. Over the last decade he has been in trouble with the law for a number of things, most recently in Paris for allegedly assaulting a woman. Since his first arrest Brown has continued to make millions of dollars, release albums and receive numerous awards. Is it okay that as a society we give people with a history violence second (and sometimes third) chances? What do you think LiveTribers?

Posted by on 24 Jan 2019

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    No No No No No No

    Posted by Narelle on 02 Apr 2019

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    Urs every one should have the chance of better or normal life and sumtimes we may just be lost or druged fucked and have a relapse but yet people just think the worst and focus on people past as ive just had a few of those fucked up moments as was in self destruct mode even thinkibg of killing self but didnt but due thos could be back on jail were dont want tobe just hope with everything and get a lawyer who will represent meso finger cross can keep self out with bond or suspened curfew what eva as much as hating curfew but if keeps me out ill do

    Posted by Gary on 01 Mar 2019

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    No second chances for aggressive behaviour. For first offence they should go through intensive anger management classes and successfully.

    Posted by Kerry on 22 Feb 2019

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    All the programs you do in jail do nothing at all for yiu as done them many of times

    Posted by Gary on 01 Mar 2019

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    Depends what for, if for a drunken brawl yeah give them a warning, but if for rape or sexual offense line then up for the chopping block! My brother is a rapist but because he's not 18 he's gotten of without so much as a slap on the rist.

    Posted by Brandon on 22 Feb 2019

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    Well y should they get a second chance if they r violent if rape or child offense no way stay in there

    Posted by Kim on 16 Feb 2019

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    NyNy X

    He was not convicted with the assault in Paris as he was with Rihana. Chris Brown was very young at the time of the assault with Rihana and everyone, even men, can be pushed to the limit and lose their temper. Does it make it right? Of course not, but just because someone is a man, why are they made to be a monster (10 years after an incident) from retaliating? Chris Brown was a bad example for this discussion. You should have used someone such as R.Kelly. Someone who retaliates to violence, with violence can and should be forgiven, if they are genuinely sorry. A rapist, pedophile or someone that is just sadistic, on the other hand, should not have a second chance at all. They should be locked up the first offence, or even potential offence they commit.

    Posted by NyNy X on 06 Feb 2019

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    And over so much time do you think it makes it OK? If you can't respect the fellow man or woman than what right do you have to be here.

    Posted by Brandon on 22 Feb 2019

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    After a long life I have learned that behavior tendencies are deep seated and can be glossed over only to reappear eventually to someone’s detriment. Without effective thorough and probably expensive and personal counselling there will be no change. Also the person has to be willing to change and most often they are not as they feel the way they are is the way they are. They will not participate in this learning how to behave differently as they have to work hard to look at the reasons for their behavior and they really don’t want to go their. They accept the old adage “that is just the way I am, like it or lump it”. No second chances unless their is a sincere demonstration of contrition and commitment to a long process of seeing things differently.

    Posted by June on 03 Feb 2019

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    Only if they display a sense of remorse and be willing to do rehabilitation and seek guidance and help

    Posted by bijouxxx on 02 Feb 2019

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    Let's face it; we all make mistakes. When it comes to violence, councilling is so important, as in some cases, it is possible to understand the root cause to the frustration or anger which results in violence. When a person can clearly identify what is going on in their life and why they are resulting to violence, they have a much higher chance of being rehabilitated. Someone who has no priors and is actively working towardw getting help does deserve a second chance. Someone who isn't accessing help, or has reoffended; I'm not too sure. There has to be a line where enough is enough.

    Posted by TessEBear on 01 Feb 2019

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    People should be given a second chance but they need support. I think a problem today is we expect others to do things (usually THE GOVERNMENT) and that does not work. We need the community - a few good people to come together to support a reforming felon, with help and support from one or two professionals. There are schemes in operation in some countries to help rehabilitate people who have done wrong but I think we need more. Those in the community who have the commitment and empathy (and not everyone does) need to be encouraged to step forward and help. At the end of the day it can be very rewarding for the helpers, and the helped.

    Posted by ayjaybee on 30 Jan 2019

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    I really believe a person can be given a second chance if they do a special course of learning how to not beat up on people in their lives etc. Unfortunately men get the blame quite a lot of the blame but mother's can beat up on their children and get away with it . They can just keep the child home from school for some time until injuries heal and be hidden. Some children go to school knowing they have not had time to do their homework because they have to do so many jobs to take care if the home. I DEFINITELY DON'T BELIEVE CHILDREN HAVE TO GO INTO CARE BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE A TYPE OF SOCIAL SERVICES PERSON VISIT THE HOME FOR A YEAR OR SO TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE CHILDREN GET THEIR PROPER CARE. IT WOULD MORE THAN PAY FOR ITSELF THAN THE COST OF JAIL ETC. MORE PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT PLACES AND MORE HELP IN THE RIGHT PLACES.

    Posted by lesley on 30 Jan 2019

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    Simply No! I don't believe their anger issues towards women ever go!

    Posted by Karen on 30 Jan 2019

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    No second chance.

    Posted by ROWENA on 29 Jan 2019

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    One strike and you are out. Too many second chances are handed out to high profile nobodies! There should be one rule for all.

    Posted by Cassius on 29 Jan 2019

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    He should be jailed for life for the crimes he has committed and should not be given any more chances

    Posted by Dianne on 29 Jan 2019

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    No Violence and drug related offences banned. send them back

    Posted by greynomad on 29 Jan 2019

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    Of course everybody deserves chances especially when you have media and police and of course propaganda in the end. We don't need never will find the truth

    Posted by MAXI BEBE on 29 Jan 2019

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    I personally think that once they have been charged on their first offence they shouldn't be given a second chance (because let's be honest) it always seems to happen again and again. And re-offenders never change.

    Posted by Leah on 29 Jan 2019

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    Big sis

    We all know drug use is having a detrimental effect on the mental health of users. Celebrities have a responsibility as role models and if continue to behave badly should be dealt harshly

    Posted by Big sis on 29 Jan 2019

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    NO WAY

    Posted by Papap00bum on 29 Jan 2019

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    He has had enough chances....Lock him up.

    Posted by repete on 29 Jan 2019

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    I think they should not be giving a they know the rules the judge should be held reposable for the what sentence that give the many times they re- addendum they should get them like they working doing road work were I was nursing training at Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay Sydney the prisoners use to bake bread for 3 Hospitals they would repair all Furniture and a lot more things which saved government and tax payers and they would grow Vega and fruits and they were kept busy better for them and us I know in the US they worked doing roads and they stand out in orange overalls . Just because he is known does seem they just get without doing anything but in the UK I remember Boy George doing his roadworks and the Media was all over it he didn’t mind he crime and the time and just shows He really has BALLS. G Sutton

    Posted by Gail on 29 Jan 2019

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    Iggy's mum

    NO. The offenders see society and the legal system as weak and to be taken advantage off. So they re-offend. So called celebrities who offend are setting an extremely bad example to kids or 'fans' who think that that behaviour is ok and that society will forgive it.

    Posted by Iggy's mum on 29 Jan 2019

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    No not all violence is not positive for the next generation.

    Posted by Candeka on 29 Jan 2019

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    not at all

    Posted by hearthrob on 29 Jan 2019

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    There are occasions where a 'second' chance might be considered eg if the violence was in self defence, in response to years of abuse, bullying or to protect another person, animal or property. Every case needs consideration before deciding yes or no. However this is very different to a third, fourth, fifth or even more chances. A situation near me involves a mother who has repeatedly abused and neglected her children and yet they are turned to her and her latest live in at the time with no charges brought against her and those, children, including her new babies each year, continue to suffer despite our reports to Family Services and police intervention. Just how many babies is she allowed to continue having and how long must her innocent little ones suffer and be brought back to her time and time again?

    Posted by Eileen on 29 Jan 2019

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    I believe in second chances as people can change but in saying that only if the individual is heavily punished for the act they had done wrong in the first place and proves he is a changed man. Chris brown was let off easy and that only left room for him to do it again and make continuous acts against the law and for that should not be allowed continuous fame and fortune as it’s like rewarding someone for their bad behaviours and in today’s society we have enough bad people in this world so the ones that are in the public eye and on screens for our children to see as role models should not be allowed the limelight with such criminal records.

    Posted by Elizabeth on 29 Jan 2019

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    I reckon people with such anger problems should be dealt with accordingly. First of all violence against any human being especially a woman should be heavily punished and frowned upon in society. It just shows how insecure the person really is and shame on the law enforcement s for making people like Chris get away with it. Isn't this world suppose to move forward and create a peaceful environment. Where there is flowers, there certainly are a bunch of WEEDS...and Chris seems to be very fond of this.

    Posted by Nathan on 29 Jan 2019

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    If people get away with something and never punished that gives them the okay to do it again, when it comes to be violent I don't believe they can be given a second chance until they can prove that they are a changed person, in Chris Browns case it is quite obvious he has not changed and I think it is wrong that he can continue to be famous and give kids the wrong type of role model.

    Posted by musicveg on 29 Jan 2019

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    No it’s not acceptable, do the crime, Do the time in jail

    Posted by Susan on 28 Jan 2019

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    I agree for second chance

    Posted by valasi on 28 Jan 2019

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    they should be treated exactly the same as everyone else, charged, tried and if guilty serve the appropriate penalty.

    Posted by geoff on 28 Jan 2019

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    well angry angry anger violent people are sick bad I rekon like criminal

    Posted by Anthony on 28 Jan 2019

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    Big fine the first time along with big warning that second time it is a prison sentence as well as a big fine. We are way too soft on all offenders in Australia - a slap on the wrist, and community service - what a joke - and deport them or take away visas, aust citizenship/passport etc if they continue to offend - show them we mean business. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!

    Posted by madmax on 28 Jan 2019

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    Depending on the severity of the offence if it's to do with violence against women and children and the person has done it in the past then most definitely not to be given a second chance no matter what their excuse is, if they have done this more than once they will do it again

    Posted by Kirsty on 28 Jan 2019

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    give a go under strict supervision. one stuff up and its back to gaol

    Posted by A48 on 28 Jan 2019

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    No there scums of the earth and they didn’t give the victims a chance,,,, They should be put in jail for ever

    Posted by Cameron on 28 Jan 2019

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    I think that is actual bullshit I’m sorry not going against males vs females but if someone stuff up okay you give them one chance but really do they actually change or do you just go along with it to make you look better this is a hard comment but if I was in that position I wouldn’t give anyone a chance that has phsyically laid a hand on a women.

    Posted by Kate on 28 Jan 2019

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    definately not, did there victim get a second chance

    Posted by 3jays on 28 Jan 2019

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    No. But the clowns that continue to support him and buy his music are just as guilty because they support him. Take away his income and money and the clown is a nothing

    Posted by stephen on 28 Jan 2019

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    No!!°° 1 in a million change their spots time for stronger deterents

    Posted by marsdo on 28 Jan 2019

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    Posted by MARTY on 28 Jan 2019

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    They are entitled to move on with their lives.shoe me a man or woman that has not committed a crime and I will show you a liar...

    Posted by GlenD on 28 Jan 2019

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    It depends what you call a crime. Violence, physical and mental abuse, bullying, robbery etc are a lot different to speeding 5 klms over the limit.

    Posted by Eileen on 29 Jan 2019

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    Far too many people in the public eye commit acts of violence against women and think that by saying sorry they are fine to go out and do it all again, time the laws in this country were made much tougher. Unfortunately many younger people seem to think that this behaviour is 'acceptable' time to make sure that they know it is far from acceptable.

    Posted by Camelot on 28 Jan 2019

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    Teaching and training on how to be a better person. Ongoing treatment with accountability checks.

    Posted by Pamela on 28 Jan 2019

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    Should abide with local and current law. Although awareness should be implemented. Education to better ourselves and others.

    Posted by Okto on 28 Jan 2019

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    No we should change the law bring back the death penalty

    Posted by Singer on 27 Jan 2019

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    Fatima zahrae

    No they shouldn't get a second chance at all. They know what they are doing is wrong but that doesn't stop them because they are like savage animals.

    Posted by Fatima zahrae on 27 Jan 2019

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    No way in hell they shouldn’t be given anything other then the death penalty..

    Posted by Ashleigh on 27 Jan 2019

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    No they should be sent to clean up rubbish for the rest of their lives without pay kind regards Heather.

    Posted by Heather on 27 Jan 2019

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    Absolutely not.

    Posted by schoolfordominic on 27 Jan 2019

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    sydguy 11

    No bloody way

    Posted by sydguy 11 on 27 Jan 2019

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    Everyone knows the difference between wright and wrong and you can’t go around bashing people because you are having a bad day , So no to the second chance

    Posted by Franklin on 27 Jan 2019

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    Violent offenders might have to have a second chance. They should live under harsher conditions.

    Posted by Jackie on 27 Jan 2019

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    Yes he deserves to be punished, Perhaps more importantly to try to prevent future offences ordered to undergo therapy. More needs to be done to find out why these people behave badly and studies done to establish an effective form of treatment.

    Posted by Alikat on 27 Jan 2019

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    Should be locked up

    Posted by Pogs on 27 Jan 2019

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    Second time straight to jail if found guilty

    Posted by foxyone on 27 Jan 2019

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    You can usually work out if he/she has changed.Check there history with the authority's and see if there is a pattern of offending against partners.Depending on what the 1st incident involed it could be no way.lots to know b4 condemning sombody one way or the other.Just some food for thought folks,so think about it!!!!!!

    Posted by ibby on 27 Jan 2019

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    It depends on if you are the victim,,,how do they feel ??

    Posted by happier on 27 Jan 2019

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    Depending on the situation a 2nd chance could be ok so long as they get the help with their anger issues but if they show no remorse or feel they don't have a anger problem then no 2nd chance at all.

    Posted by Mr911S on 27 Jan 2019

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    They should be given a second chance to show they won't do it again. But if they do it again then no more chances.

    Posted by kivrin on 27 Jan 2019

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    one strike and you're out !

    Posted by gadzooks on 27 Jan 2019

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    Everyone deserves the opportunity for a second chance but it shouldn't just be handed to them in any circumstance. A second chance requires trust be given to somebody who has history of breaking trust. This means if someone is truly regretful for their actions they will do whatever must be done to prove they are aware of the damage they caused, own the fact they themselves through their own choices have done something wrong and these actions have negatively impacted on someone else's life. Only then is it safe and deserve to give that person a second chance as they earned it. Punishment is important for those that wrong they must be held responsible but once punished we send them back into the world with no new skills to make good decisions no new skills to deal with conflict or change or cope with stress or any of the things life will throw. We dont teach people to be better to be proud of themselves to be accountable for themselves and their actions, no we lock them up then let them go the same if not more dangerous mindset. Lets teach eachother how to be together look after eachother stop putting labels on eachother because tomorrow i will not be who i am today

    Posted by Hollie on 27 Jan 2019

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    Absolutely not. Look at some of the crimes committed in past couple of years or so. Out on parole, they've committed murder. Those charged with domestic violence are released on bail and go back and repeat the violence. The Justice System needs to be revamped. Parole is given out too easily.

    Posted by Muldoon on 27 Jan 2019

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    No more chances

    Posted by Phillip on 27 Jan 2019

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    I would say no. Just the other day a poor Uber delivery man was set on by a gang of teenagers in Perth and might lose his sight in one eye. He said he forgives them but the offenders will keep it. There is a group of men in Norway protecting girl's and women from sexual assault from migrants because it has risen quite a bit there.

    Posted by lynette on 27 Jan 2019

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    Obviously a serial offender and should be isolated from society, definate gaol time would be in order followed by very close scrutiny. I am very much in favour of the US principal of three strikes and you are in gaol for the rest of your life.

    Posted by Chris on 27 Jan 2019

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    lord mayor

    no way. people should be able control themselves. punishment will help them learn to behave properly

    Posted by lord mayor on 27 Jan 2019

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    Punishment does not solve crime as most offenders do not consider the consequences before committing an assault and even when they do believe that they will not be apprehended.. I have no idea how to prevent assault but believe that drugs are often a major course.

    Posted by socker on 27 Jan 2019

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    It may not solve crime but it stops that person from hurting u or me

    Posted by Pogs on 27 Jan 2019

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    no, he must be punish.

    Posted by fe on 27 Jan 2019

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    I dont care who the person is but no-one should get away with assaulting or abusing others, he should be locked up for at least 10 years minimum.

    Posted by mishaman65 on 26 Jan 2019

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    Posted by Not_A_DoDo on 26 Jan 2019

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    totally agree no decission should be made until all the evidence has been examined

    Posted by socker on 27 Jan 2019

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    Posted by Greg on 26 Jan 2019

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    Since the offender who wilfully chose to assault another person and is proven to have done so should NOT get a second chance but take the appropriate punishment. Considering this scenario with Chris Brown, if the allegation of assault has not been proven beyond reasonable doubt, and the victim has perjured (lied) themselves, then there is little anyone can do legally but to let him go, but is Chris Brown who does have such history then assaults another person and is proven guilty, then the heaviest law book should been thrown at him.

    Posted by damien on 26 Jan 2019

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    I think people with history of violence should be given a second chance to amend their ways under strict supervision and court/judge intervention depending to the degree of offence, damage cause to a certain degree.

    Posted by Martha on 26 Jan 2019

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    No second chance. Even the Young Children have become Violent, learning from their Violent Parents & the Violent Games & Movies they watch.

    Posted by Four on 26 Jan 2019

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    No one has the right to pysically or emotionally abuse others and should all be given one oportunity to receive treatment for rehabilitation. No criminal offender should be deserving of protection whether an entertainer that is responsible for setting an example to others, a cleric in a position of trust or a member of society who has had a less than adequate upbringing.

    Posted by ura on 26 Jan 2019

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    All his right should be taken away and all his money should be going to charity

    Posted by Susana on 26 Jan 2019

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    No - lock em up

    Posted by gary49 on 25 Jan 2019

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    No second chance. Do it once and face the consequences.

    Posted by John on 25 Jan 2019

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    Aviary UnCaged

    Yes but only after intense courses on correcting their behavior and working for a cause thst supports it free. But never by the victims

    Posted by Aviary UnCaged on 25 Jan 2019

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    no did they give the victim a second chance?

    Posted by les on 25 Jan 2019

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    A violent offender, after properly tried and convicted, and served a proper sentence should be set free. repeat offenders are a different matter. the repeat offences indicate that they have not been reabilitated. Is it the judge, the prison system, answer those questions and everything changes. Violent repeat offenders then should not be released.

    Posted by David on 25 Jan 2019

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    No. Straight to rehab for anger management. If reoffends then off to jail. Any money made from music, videos etc to be taken as payment to victims medical bills then to pay for their treatment.

    Posted by Lynne on 25 Jan 2019

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    No, violence is abhorrent especially towards wives, mothers or females of any generation. The incidents of continual aggression are documented. Too little due consideration by magistrates and courts are given to this and most sentences are little more than a slap on the wrist to the offender.

    Posted by Barry on 25 Jan 2019

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    No i don't think they should

    Posted by Judy on 25 Jan 2019

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    once can be a loss of control after that it's not a loss of control but deliberate, straight to jail no $200 for going past go.

    Posted by foxyone on 25 Jan 2019

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    I dont think they should be given a third chance if they muck up on the second chance we should throw the book at them

    Posted by linda on 25 Jan 2019

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    We should punish them. No second chances.

    Posted by Subash on 25 Jan 2019

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    No way, they never reform, just go underground for a while and continue the violence, usually escalating

    Posted by tosca on 25 Jan 2019

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    No. There is way too much offenders out there looking for the next victim.

    Posted by GeesOpinion on 25 Jan 2019

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    No chance to much stuff like this going on

    Posted by Singer on 25 Jan 2019

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    No, they should b treated the same way as their actions have delivered to others.

    Posted by Nicole on 25 Jan 2019

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    No definitely not just think that the next person they attack it could be one of yours or somone that you know. They are no good to society and the people who are in it.  The very  mention of attacks that are going on currently is another loss to someone who loves them and the families.  I am so sorry for the pain that it is causing.

    Posted by Likeable on 24 Jan 2019

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    Enough is enough. There is no excuse for any assault and the perpetrator should be punished. Bad home life, addiction, sad childhood are not reasons for saying "there, there" and giving them a suspended sentence.

    Posted by goulah on 24 Jan 2019

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    clearmoon clearmoon

    NO WAY

    Posted by clearmoon clearmoon on 24 Jan 2019

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    If after the first incident of violence the person actively repents and seeks all necessary help in order not to repeat the offence, then yes they should be given another chance. BUT if they do a violent based offence again after their supposed contrite repentance, they should be given no further chances. And face the full brunt of the law.

    Posted by Suellen on 24 Jan 2019

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    Remember every chance we give these offenders is a result of ANOTHER attack on an innocent person. If that innocent person was your loved one, would you still choose to give these offenders another chance?? Surely we all agree now!

    Posted by Brenda on 24 Jan 2019

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    A second chance is one thing but at which point do you say he has had his 2nd chance.

    Posted by Con on 24 Jan 2019

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    As a firm believer of Capital Punishment I think all murderers/rapists / child killers and molesters should receive the death penalty which will probably upset the do-gooders reading this blog! Phil

    Posted by Nkosicat1377 on 24 Jan 2019

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    Totally agree, these type of offenders never change, they do their incarceration, attend "the programs" when locked up, get out, they are not monitored closely enough because there is no longer a monitoring group and the first chance they get they do it again and again and again. They ruin and destroy innocent children and people's life, they should receive the Death Penalty and save a lot of heartbreak and us taxpayers a lot of money.

    Posted by dih on 24 Jan 2019

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    Absolutely agree 100%

    Posted by ladytiger on 24 Jan 2019

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    No fckng way.

    Posted by Sdsp2821 on 24 Jan 2019

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    Of course, why should pedophiles be allowed to walk free

    Posted by Colette on 24 Jan 2019

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    nannie annie

    no. I believe in the American law system 3 chances then it is fir a very long time

    Posted by nannie annie on 24 Jan 2019

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    3 dead people instead of 1 before you would act?

    Posted by algemyone on 25 Jan 2019

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    No. Cuando son violentos siguen igual

    Posted by Paredes on 27 Jan 2019

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