Should There Be Tighter Restrictions On Crowd Funding?


On crowdfunding sites like Go Fund Me people are able to donate to campaigns they feel strongly about. From helping fund cancer treatment to paying legal fees, the people asking for donations are under no legal obligation to follow through with their proposed plans. For example, Israel Folau is attempting to receive 3 million dollars from the public for legal fees, however if he decides to use the money for something else, he can.  Should there be tighter restrictions on what counts as a worthy cause? Should crowd funding sites be kept for the truly needy, like helping to pay for specialist medical treatment? What do you think LiveTribers?

Posted by on 24 Jun 2019

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    Nut Grass

    If Folau listened to and read his contract he would not be the greedy clown he had made himself look like. The people who have contributed to him are just as stupid. Give your money to a some one who realy needs the help.

    Posted by Nut Grass on 01 Jul 2019

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    Rosie765

    Yes absolutely! Filal is a fraud & should rightly be held to account for his actions Lazy overfed Sportsman should stick to what he does well = Sport

    Posted by Rosie765 on 30 Jun 2019

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    Sandi

    Rich people like Folau shouldn't be allowed to get money from the public, especially since he was in the wrong.

    Posted by Sandi on 30 Jun 2019

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    Tereapii

    It should ONLY be specific to major organs of humans.

    Posted by Tereapii on 30 Jun 2019

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    Darcy

    I say yes go fund me is a great way to help people in need but at this point in time anyone can start a page with no real regulations or rules it should be only used when truly needed

    Posted by Darcy on 30 Jun 2019

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    A48

    monies given to others for specific needs that will help that person out a dire need - fine. Used for legal fees when there is a legal aid office nearby or online - no. Medicare covers most but sometimes the needs are not covered eg. long term therapies etc. But the receiver needs to be able to be checked for finanaces somehow. Someone who has mixed reasons/beliefs and adequate monies - needs to have full explanation as to why needed questioned. How this can be done when these funds can be so easily started is going to be difficult to police. A good legal advisor on the site maybe?

    Posted by A48 on 30 Jun 2019

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    ww

    Yes it has become a gravy train for wacko causes.

    Posted by ww on 30 Jun 2019

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    Ethel

    I believe that tight restrictions will not help in many ways. So, my answers is No.

    Posted by Ethel on 30 Jun 2019

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    poisonivy61

    Should be only for anyone that is really needy and requires live saving treatment or medications. Should be for the needy, not the greedy.

    Posted by poisonivy61 on 30 Jun 2019

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    Eileen

    Those permitted should be genuine causes for people or organisations which otherwise could not afford the money themselves. The funds should not be personally for the promoters themselves but a genuine worthy cause. The funds should not be profiting any cause which discriminates or promotes hatred, persecution or threats to other individuals or groups

    Posted by Eileen on 30 Jun 2019

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    T33

    You can put up a go fund me for almost anything. Recent case were a young couple who are bloggers with a big following and wanted people to fund their next holiday. The young guy said his mother works hard to fund his lifestyle and that he didnt believe in the capitalist system, you shouldnt be forced to work etc etc, yet he wanted crowd funding. They got a lot of backlash and then deleted their account. But why did go fund me allow it in the first place..... because go fund me takes a % when people withdraw the money. But if we are a true democracy & anyone can start a business, then go fund me has the right to allow people to ask for donations for anything, but drawing the line at eg: need donations so i can hire a hit man. It gets very tricky when government, people , businesses start weighing in & placing more and more restrictions on us. The world is drastically changing & not everything will appeal to everyone, but we dont want to be like communist Russia was either.

    Posted by T33 on 30 Jun 2019

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    Nicole

    Isn’t everyone’s worthy cause different? People should be able to give as they choose in my opinion.

    Posted by Nicole on 30 Jun 2019

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    Rose

    Funds should be spent only on the advertised purpose

    Posted by Rose on 30 Jun 2019

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    Kitty000

    Crowd funding should be for the truly needy, not arrogant millionaires who want to fund legal battles. Israel Folau has enough money to fund his own defence as he is paid (as opposed to earning) an obscene amount of money to kick a football; whereas ordinary working people earn an honest living and some are struggling with the cost of living. I think there should be set criteria to be eligible for crowd funding

    Posted by Kitty000 on 29 Jun 2019

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    gearloose

    I just noticed that funding can be raised for things that could be better diverted to really needy causes as people have fickle senses of priority

    Posted by gearloose on 29 Jun 2019

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    Glenda

    In my opinion NO, if people want to give money, let them give money. Shouldn’t be anyone’s business really. If they want to give money to show their support, let them.

    Posted by Glenda on 28 Jun 2019

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    flyhigher

    thank-you Glenda that's exactly how I feel but did not know how to express in words

    Posted by flyhigher on 29 Jun 2019

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    Debbie

    I agree funding if U know it is true like it happen in the news or in the community

    Posted by Debbie on 28 Jun 2019

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    Ulysses

    I am a little bit torn here. I am all for love, however it comes. I am heterosexual ... I voted for homosexual marriage laws,and I'm happy I did. I think Israel Folau can afford his own legal stuff and shouldn't be getting crowd funding. Where I am torn, is that Israel spoke his mind, and while I don't agree with him in any shape or form, I will defend his right to speak his mind. Australia supposedly is allowed free speech .... and whether I agree with Israel's thoughts or not, I deplore the fact that he's NOT allowed to speak freely. My rant over & done with.

    Posted by Ulysses on 27 Jun 2019

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    flyhigher

    well said Ulysses

    Posted by flyhigher on 29 Jun 2019

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    Horn

    Ulysses , on all counts I agree with you , god help all of us when we are no longer aloud to voice our beliefs for fear of losing our jobs , due to crowd pressure . I am not a very religious person , however I do recall being taught in the catholic school system that Jesus Died on the Cross because he spoke about his beliefs . Didn't the crowds according to the bible call out " Crucify Him , Crucify Him " just saying !

    Posted by Horn on 28 Jun 2019

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    jeollie

    Most definitely should be tighter guidelines, especially after the Falau incidents (2 now!) And especially as if he decides to use it for something else and there's no monitoring or legality on that. If yhat is possible, then that's just wrong and dishonest. If people want to support a certain cause, I guess that's up to them but supporting someone that has funds of their own, shouldn't be allowed to have funds s on these type of platforms set up by them or any other authority on their behalf. The fact that there's so many other people that really could do with real help from this sort of money being thrown at someone that is already wealthy, well that's just sad. That's my opinion anyway!!

    Posted by jeollie on 27 Jun 2019

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    Horn

    Jeollie , don't assume or put your own interpretation on Israel Falau's use of the funds will be , as he has never shown himself to be a dishonest person and why do you think he has less rights than anyone else ?

    Posted by Horn on 28 Jun 2019

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    Kitty000

    Horn, it's because he's already wealthy, and can afford to fund his own legal battles

    Posted by Kitty000 on 29 Jun 2019

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    flyhigher

    tricky I can see both sides

    Posted by flyhigher on 29 Jun 2019

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    Jenny

    Yes I feel they should

    Posted by Jenny on 27 Jun 2019

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    Four

    Yes I think there should be some sort of means test to avoid over exploiting.

    Posted by Four on 27 Jun 2019

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    flyhigher

    means test good idea

    Posted by flyhigher on 29 Jun 2019

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    super88

    I agree there is a difference between the greedy and the needy, but if people choose to pay for the wants of individuals that I think aren’t deserving, it’s not really a decision for me to make. As for Israel Folau , I am surprised people want to donate, I have read that his claim for crowd funding has already been denied as it doesn’t fall within the guidelines for crowd funding. The promises of donations in that forum have already been refunded. I guess he is uncomfortable supporting his cause with his own assets.

    Posted by super88 on 27 Jun 2019

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    Christine

    what gives you the moral position to decide what's right or wrong in this case , you like everybody is entitled to their opinion and shout as loud as you please , but you don't have the right to disqualify others from giving their opinions, you are heading in the direction of full blown socialism if you haven't reached yet , you are well on your way Brett

    Posted by Christine on 27 Jun 2019

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    David

    No, if people have money to help others, let them be, they make the decision, they pay the money, why would you stop a central point of volunteering, shut down the rest then surf life-saving fire brigade, etc, leave well alone!

    Posted by David on 27 Jun 2019

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    flyhigher

    I have give many a like and some comments but I agree with you the most

    Posted by flyhigher on 29 Jun 2019

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    angrymum

    There will always be some that rort the system. Falou is one of them. Cannot believe how many people donated knowing full well he is very well off and can more than afford his own legal fees. I say keep the Fund going but not for those who can afford whatever life throws at them themselves. Genuine poor people out there asking for a hand. In Falou's case, the Go Fund Me page should never have been allowed.

    Posted by angrymum on 27 Jun 2019

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    Kippa Chick

    For sure. Especially with what happened with Israel Falou. I'm glad Go Fund Me cancelled his account as he's very well of financially & has no business even setting up a Go Fund Me account in the first place to raise money for his so called legal fees. Now this has been tried, crowd funding needs definite guidelines on what can be asked for on sites such as Go Fund Me, plus similar. It's very unfair for anyone with several properties, 15 hundered thousand dollars in the bank & very similar status to even ask for crowdfunding in the first place, unless it's for a much needed thing like domestic violence, children with cancer, homelessness & very similar things.

    Posted by Kippa Chick on 27 Jun 2019

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    4242lucy

    yes yes yes why should we donate money to someone who already has more than most of us i was told by legal aid to sell my home when i approached many years ago

    Posted by 4242lucy on 27 Jun 2019

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    Ally 81

    Defiantly needs to be

    Posted by Ally 81 on 27 Jun 2019

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    Karel

    Of course not. Stupid who gives, but more stupid who doesn't take! If people want to pay whatever, it's their freedom to do so, despite others don't like it. The others donate to what the first might not like. That's democratic competition. Regulate and end up in totality. I remember times when everybody's' thinking was red like monkeys arse. Do we really want to have again brains of the same "colour"? What about green? (which green flag to join - eko or islam, or $ or ....)

    Posted by Karel on 26 Jun 2019

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    Pedro24

    Yes - Legitimate reasons only

    Posted by Pedro24 on 26 Jun 2019

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    Ralph

    Ok for poor people in need, but for rich people no no no

    Posted by Ralph on 26 Jun 2019

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    marli

    Israel Folau has made a mockery of crowdfunding. He is a millionaire in his own world and wants people to fund him for something else. The funds should/must be used for the purpose for which they are received. I do not think HE is a worthy cause at all. This should apply to all fundraisers. Have a limit and a time limit as well.

    Posted by marli on 26 Jun 2019

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    Ulysses

    That is how I feel marli. Thank you.

    Posted by Ulysses on 27 Jun 2019

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    musicveg

    I have never looked at go fund me or any other funding sites, mainly because I am struggling myself, and I often wonder how many of them are genuine, seems like anyone could make a story up and get money from kind hearted people and who is to know if they end up doing what they said they would, so overall yes I think there needs to be some more restrictions. If you can afford to pay for things yourself then you should not be asking for money from anyone.

    Posted by musicveg on 26 Jun 2019

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    musicveg

    And as for Israel Folau, he is using the excuse of freedom of speech and religion thing to put down LBGTQ people, which is discrimination and racist. He is guilty of going against our laws and protections that we have in place. And to ask for money when he is rich is purely disgusting.

    Posted by musicveg on 26 Jun 2019

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    pottsandpotts

    Should be banned altogther if not open to everyone.

    Posted by pottsandpotts on 25 Jun 2019

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    Koringanal

    Leave it as it is. No one is forcing anyone to donate. If you feel strongly enough to donate, then do so, otherwise just have your say and move on.

    Posted by Koringanal on 25 Jun 2019

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    Horn

    I personally don't believe in this relative new crowd online funding ,as I think it will and does only lead too exploitation , something that we are seeing on a daily basis . In saying this I think it would be less likely that Israel Folau would do this, and although his beliefs are not mine ,I still think he is a decent man & that in our country has the same right to voice his opinion as do the Gay and general community , without the slanted forum which is taking place . The better question would be , " Has Australia become so P/ C that only agreeing with minorities is acceptable ? " So sad and the media are playing it to the hilt . Rules for some but not for others , so we are becoming less and less likely to voice our opinions for fear of being under threat . Cutting down the tall poppy's. , something we ae becoming more and more well known for .

    Posted by Horn on 25 Jun 2019

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    Alison

    No not really

    Posted by Alison on 25 Jun 2019

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    max

    crowd funding should be for worthy causes, ie people in need from adversity, or trying to better themselves with study or starting businesses/inventions .this is not a platform for personal agendas

    Posted by max on 24 Jun 2019

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    Bernie

    Go fund me should have every right to remove funding appeals for people who do not deserve it. The whole purpose of the go fund me scheme is to assist people in need not rich sportsmen. Folau earns more money a year than the average person will earn in a life time, and can fully afford to pay for his own legal fees. He has not been dealt with because of his religious views but because he breached his contract with the A.R.U. and to Gregory I might point out that this has nothing to do with the N.R.L.

    Posted by Bernie on 24 Jun 2019

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    Kitty000

    I agree too

    Posted by Kitty000 on 29 Jun 2019

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    HENNA

    I agree wholeheartedly with you.

    Posted by HENNA on 24 Jun 2019

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    Gregory

    Israel should not have to sell his home to pay for legal fees trying to rectify an injustice by the NRL. This has been defined as a homophobic rant which it was not. The greatest element of Australian life is freedom of speech. Let us not be too politically correct. I voted for marriage equality , so now where is his rights.? Lifelivit.

    Posted by Gregory on 24 Jun 2019

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    coaster

    I agree the press is honing in on the homosexual aspect when in fact he denigrated many others. I think we can agree he can say what he likes, as you say we are supposed to have free speech in this country, however, he was fired as his actions contravened his contract which he signed knowing full well the clause regarding such a situation. He has made millions playing in teams which all the people he put down have sections that have cheered him on or watched him play. How disappointing to them to be vilified like this by someone they probably once admired. Do you realise in his eyes you are going to hell also for voting for marriage equality. I also think political correctness needs to be pulled back as it has definitely gone way to far in the wrong direction. Aussies used to laugh at themselves but now are virtually gagged because they may offend someone.

    Posted by coaster on 27 Jun 2019

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    Pauline

    This 'fellow' should be chucked out of the country not helped by the public, a lot of whom are being vilified by him.

    Posted by Pauline on 24 Jun 2019

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    intrepidarts

    People have a choice - they choose to invest or assist other people there is no restrictions based on the level of need - and i think thats a good thing - who are we as a one whole to decide who needs assistance

    Posted by intrepidarts on 24 Jun 2019

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    ere

    Trouble is too many people are stupid and believe everything they read on the net and fall for scams like Folau is trying to pull. Police should charge him with attempting to defraud people out of their money. BTW I'm crowd funding to buy the Sydney Opera House to turn it into a bowling alley.

    Posted by ere on 24 Jun 2019

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    Gerry19

    Folau is a multi millionaire and the 750K is a sick action by like minded people that donated to this, I was very happy what GoFundme has done.

    Posted by Gerry19 on 24 Jun 2019

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    Rosemary37

    I think the best thing Folau could do now is to pass on the donated money he has received to a more worthy cause. He has the right to have his views but not to publicly state these views when his Football Club contract stipulates in writing that it contravenes doing so. People idolise well known Footballers so think they should be forgiven for everything. I am afraid I do not, and I think they should not be treated differently to anyone else

    Posted by Rosemary37 on 24 Jun 2019

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