Should Elderly Drivers Face Retesting?


In 2017 a South Australian survey showed that, on average, drivers aged 60-69 involved in fatal and serious injury crashes were responsible in 55% of cases, drivers aged 70-79 were responsible in 63% of cases and drivers aged 80 years and over were responsible in 86% of cases. Is it reasonable to ask elderly drivers (70+) to undergo regular testing of their driving skills considering these statistics? What do you think? Should elderly drivers face retesting?

Posted by on 30 Jan 2019

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    Kim

    Well I think if there over 70 they should b tested if family notice before that they should suggest to them to resit the test

    Posted by Kim on 16 Feb 2019

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    Panagiota

    Yes ,i agree and to be honest it wont be long now for me to be retested as i am just around the corner ,and im looking forward to it.

    Posted by Panagiota on 15 Feb 2019

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    Panagiota

    Yes i agree ,and it wont be long for my turn ,as i am just arounthecorner to be retested

    Posted by Panagiota on 15 Feb 2019

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    Kerry

    Not unless their doctors thinks there is sufficient reasoning

    Posted by Kerry on 14 Feb 2019

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    Gabor

    Yes I do say that but they should have a driving test to see if they can still drive and look at them and if they are worried you can see it on there face .

    Posted by Gabor on 12 Feb 2019

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    Gabor

    I'm 68 and I am ok but I'm driving a automatic car I'm can drive a manual but my feet because of my Diabetic I have num feet so I can still drive because I know how I can watch the speedo and I know how much to push the pedal but I believe whom you get to 80 if you pass the test you can drive but if you don't no liesence and a driving test as well.

    Posted by Gabor on 12 Feb 2019

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    socker

    I was at a charity event and one of the items was a questionnaire on the road rules and the 20 to 40 years olds were the ones who knew the least about road rules those over 60 new moe about road rules than allest except the 17 year ilds who had just been issued with a license.

    Posted by socker on 12 Feb 2019

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    kevie007

    i think its a good idea i;m 81 and drive safe and responsible the time i dont drive with any conferdence thats it . kevin.m

    Posted by kevie007 on 05 Feb 2019

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    Beverley

    Depends on the individual but should have annual testing at age 70 regardless of their proficiency

    Posted by Beverley on 04 Feb 2019

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    Sue

    Have worked great in aged care many years and there is a general lack of capacity that comes with the age it process. Some more impacted than others. Important for the general safety for drivers as well as others in the community to have regular testing once a certain age is reached.

    Posted by Sue on 04 Feb 2019

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    Sandra

    Definitely! for their own safety & the safety of others. Elderly people find it difficult to admit they are growing older. It would be best to have mandatory testing as the elderly can deteriorate in cognition & mobility very quickly,.after the age of 70 testing every couple of years. And over 80 testing every year.

    Posted by Sandra on 04 Feb 2019

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    Kalolayne

    Regular testing after 70 years.

    Posted by Kalolayne on 04 Feb 2019

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    perry mason

    drug driver and speeding if caught should resit there licence again

    Posted by perry mason on 04 Feb 2019

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    mact

    Only if GP recommended at any age!

    Posted by mact on 04 Feb 2019

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    Bozkat

    Yes they need regular checks. Like every year

    Posted by Bozkat on 04 Feb 2019

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    Dropbear84

    Yes, definitely. Spotted an elderly driver recently cut down the wrong side of a road separated by a large median strip. They didnt seem aware / stop until they were 50m down the road.

    Posted by Dropbear84 on 04 Feb 2019

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    Fred

    It all depends how fit and mentally stable older drivers are

    Posted by Fred on 04 Feb 2019

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    Deanne

    Regular testing after 70 yrs old would be advisable in my opinion

    Posted by Deanne on 03 Feb 2019

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    Norma

    After reading what others have posted I have to admit for one that I have seldom correctly reversed into a tight parking space on the first attempt and I've been driving for nearly 50 years so not necessarily an 'age thing' (I still don't have a reversing camera!) Now at almost 70 I do not feel old or believe I need another driving test - perhaps yes by 80.. My reaction time is still good as was proved recently when I had to suddenly brake because of someone suddenly cutting in front of me without presumably checking their blind spot - Mind you I was worried about the large SUV behind me bearing down on me as he (younger driver) was driving too close behind!.....If one wears glasses -probably majority of older drivers do -then during eye checkups, every couple years or so, the Optometrist would surely be notifying the Motor Reg if eyesight was potential danger, or if one now needed glasses for driving (rather than just for reading) they would be required to advise the Motor Reg I am sure, same as a Doctor would have a duty of care to notify them if a particular unmanageable medical condition posed a risk........I'm not saying all older people drive perfectly but neither do all younger drivers........Also being hard of hearing does not prevent one driving safely otherwise all those who are profoundly deaf would not obtain a license.

    Posted by Norma on 03 Feb 2019

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    Fergus

    Definitely, my father who is 70 recently wrote my car off....turned right on a red light.Shold not be driving as he has a bad neck, poor eyesight and poor hearing

    Posted by Fergus on 03 Feb 2019

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    Jade

    I believe they should get retested or stop driving at a certain age.

    Posted by Jade on 03 Feb 2019

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    Rachael

    I believe a doctor should assess and give feedback to motor reg and then make a decision on whether anyone should re sit a manual driving test

    Posted by Rachael on 03 Feb 2019

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    Susan

    I believe they should undergo regular testing from 70 years plus.

    Posted by Susan on 03 Feb 2019

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    dirk

    i am 77 and i am happy to be tested anytime but i must thank mainroads for being so kind to put all those speed signs up for me because i have the feeling that me and a few other silly old buggers adhere to them while the rest is speeding past me giving me dirty looks.

    Posted by dirk on 03 Feb 2019

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    shrott

    every driver should face re-tested at random or when see to be driving erratically

    Posted by shrott on 03 Feb 2019

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    June

    In Qld after 75 we have a medical test each year. I do feel from 80 onwards a driving test is necessary and license renewal dependent on that. At 95 my father was given a license for another 5 years and he got his medical passed which should not have happened. A driving test would prevent this and possible danger to themselves and others. Most people don’t recognize their own limitations.

    Posted by June on 03 Feb 2019

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    OpalOne

    Age should only be one reason. Medical and driving record are among things that could trigger testing. In the second half of my seventh decade, fifty-one years a licensed driver, I would be happy to take a medical and a driving test. Not so certain about a theory test. Fifty-one years ago it was all miles, feet and inches. I would like to submit my record, you can decide whether to send me for a test? During the half century I have driven some four million kilometres of Australia roads. Lots of dirt roads, lots of heavy vehicles. No, not one, infringement notice a couple minor incidents and sadly not a few kangaroos in the days of night express coaches through the outback. There are drivers both young and old that need testing and both groups who don't. For the record, no longer professionally driving, I average forty plus thousand kilometres a year commuting to and from work and touring in our motorhome.

    Posted by OpalOne on 02 Feb 2019

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    Aaimi

    Mandatory test after a certain age. Maybe 75.

    Posted by Aaimi on 02 Feb 2019

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    Vanessa

    I Agree with Barrie in this one not every elderly person are the same no matter what age !!!

    Posted by Vanessa on 02 Feb 2019

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    Sammbo

    Survey results can be easily tailored to gain the required result. I'd like to see the survey results showing aged 50 -59, 40 - 49 and particularly groups embracing 18 - 39 age groups No male/ female breakdown either I notice.

    Posted by Sammbo on 02 Feb 2019

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    Barrie

    No - at 79 years of age I have held class 3 and 5 licences since 18 years of age and for 12 of these years have travelled in excess of 80,000 ks per year AND HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT.. BY ALL MEANS MAKE A MEDICAL TEST MANDATORY EVERY YEAR AFTER 70 AND INCLUDE A REACTION TEST. Barrie

    Posted by Barrie on 02 Feb 2019

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    StoneCold

    Absolutely

    Posted by StoneCold on 02 Feb 2019

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    Maria

    Yes for safety reasons

    Posted by Maria on 02 Feb 2019

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    pjohnw

    Yes , at least every 12 months once you pass 70yo , but not just older drivers , reduce licences to 5 years and as part of renewing you have to pass a driving test , cars can be lethal weapons , too many idiots on our roads , and too many who have no idea of the road laws.

    Posted by pjohnw on 01 Feb 2019

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    squeekums1

    Completely agree with a 5 yr licence Too many see driving as a right, not as a privilege

    Posted by squeekums1 on 02 Feb 2019

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    Miss

    I especially agree that elderly drivers are frequently asked to proove their vision and driving abilities! Drs should be reccomending these tests!

    Posted by Miss on 01 Feb 2019

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    Andrew

    Since driverless cars are on the horizon this issue will be resolved ! NO to the testing of all elderly drivers! Australia is not a communist Country! You can't put all elderly drivers into one bag and say they all need such and such..... Its not so much retesting that's needed its a restructure of thinking to combat things like road rage, fatigue, speeding and using your mobile phone that's more important .... Being retested and having Med checks every such and such is just a money spinner aimed at the elderly just to make a few people feel more secure. How many people own mobile phones and drive while using them ? Look elsewhere for the answer....!!!!

    Posted by Andrew on 01 Feb 2019

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    alax

    no... elderly people have been driving all their lives !!!

    Posted by alax on 01 Feb 2019

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    squeekums1

    So what? Dont mean they still safe too Driving is a privilege Not a right If they are a danger, they have no right to drive

    Posted by squeekums1 on 02 Feb 2019

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    Leed

    As there is an entry date for obtaining a license it is realistic to have a cut-off date at the other end of life. Most older drivers make the same mistake; hitting the accelerator instead of brakes. Its a fact of life and old people need to give it up.

    Posted by Leed on 01 Feb 2019

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    britneym

    I do agree- as we age it's a life cycle the brain ages so you can become just like a learner again in life.

    Posted by britneym on 01 Feb 2019

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    alax

    I wonder if you will still say that when you are elderly >>>

    Posted by alax on 01 Feb 2019

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    Mal

    In NSW everyone over 75 has to undergo medical and eye tests each year. and over 80 tests every 6 mths. Noted a doctor of mine taking half a dozen attempts to back his car the other day into reverse parking spot.

    Posted by Mal on 01 Feb 2019

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    TessEBear

    Instead of making it age related; why isn't everyone retested before renewing their licences?

    Posted by TessEBear on 01 Feb 2019

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    mishaman65

    YES- I believe, as someone below has said that "EVERY DRIVER" should be tested at least every 10 years so then they can keep updated with road rules but also make sure they have driver safety. But definetely every 2 years once drivers hit 70 years old they should be tested and thats just not to drive around the block and your a good driver. Make sure its a driver safety test.they have the skills to still drive safe, this way when we all get old we all face the same challenges.

    Posted by mishaman65 on 01 Feb 2019

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    Likeable

    Sensible opinion.

    Posted by Likeable on 01 Feb 2019

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    OIGLE38

    I am 80. I now have to have a retest every year for my commercial license, plus a bevy of health tests. I think that it would be fair enough to retest all drivers from 75 on. Our reflexes certainly go downhill rapidly in later life, and it would be good to be assessed from at least 75 to ensure that we are still fit to drive. In addition, the need to read up for the test certainly updates our knowledge of regulations.

    Posted by OIGLE38 on 01 Feb 2019

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    algemyone

    I'm 75 and believe I should be tested each year. At present I just have to have a doctor's certificate. It is difficult to face giving up driving, but for other people's safety we have to accept it will become necessary. You can't accurately assess your own ability!

    Posted by algemyone on 01 Feb 2019

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    Graeme

    All drivers should be tested every 10 years at least

    Posted by Graeme on 01 Feb 2019

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    Aisling

    Yes. As an elderly driver I would welcome a fair appraisal of my fitness or otherwise to continue to drive.

    Posted by Aisling on 01 Feb 2019

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    Magwheels

    Yes. I think the mandatory Medical Certificate for 0ver 75s is probably not detailed enough to really determine a person's ability to drive. Maybe a tailor made driving test for the elderly - directed at their ability to drive safely could be beneficial.

    Posted by Magwheels on 01 Feb 2019

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    gary

    YES I am 65 and I think that medical tests should be done if there is a sign that there is a problem it should be reported and a decision made at the time of testing between the doctor and patient. I have relo's who just kept on driving when they know that they shouldn't and their parteners approve of this because they can't drive or want to be driven arround there are community buses for that.

    Posted by gary on 01 Feb 2019

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    Teddie Bear

    my opinion is that maybe yearly testing would help a lot.

    Posted by Teddie Bear on 01 Feb 2019

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    jeeves01

    It's common sense. Of course they should. I'm 68 and I am well aware my reflexes are not what they used to be. I've never had a serious accident in my 50 years of driving but I will undergo any test I have to. The argument that elderly drivers should not be test because young drivers have lots of accidents is totally irrelevant. Australian drivers in general are pretty bad and getting more aggressive. Witness the school drop off and pick up madness.....the holiday city exodus debacle... the mobile phone usage while driving ... it just goes on and on because of our gutless politicians not wanting to bring in compulsory driving standards to lift the overall ability of drivers because they might lose a few votes from the vocal minority. What I am getting to is that our driving ability does decrease with age and yes...it needs to be monitored and I would also suggest we need to be updated/tested on rules...as should be the case with all drivers in my opinion...say every 5 years.

    Posted by jeeves01 on 01 Feb 2019

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    Susana

    No they shouldn’t,but they should have a displayed plate to let people know that they are elderly like the P plates are displayed that they are new drivers :)

    Posted by Susana on 01 Feb 2019

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    caperteewaratah

    No - Give doctors and health professionals the authority to report unstable people and certain medical conditions. As a health professional I think before testing elderly drivers, look closely at medical conditions of elderly or others. Many epileptics are not permitted to drive if they have had an episode of epilepsy in the past 2 years. A person who has had an episode of syncope or fainting or certain heart conditions where the blood does not pump effectively causing the person to have a TIA (trans ischaemic attack) should be excluded from driving I think. As no one ever knows when this might happen and when I hear of an acciden of an elderly person driving into a fence, a house etc: I think of TIA. Its uncontrollable and they are in danger of loss of consciousness. It needs to be mandatory for doctors to report this to driving and licening authority and to make it easy for them to do, like it is for child abuse. Also persons with dementia - which is sometimes difficult to diagnose - and there are many family members who are in total denial that their loved one has dementia - or will say they have a "bit of dementia" - theres no bit of its only how much or how many times they are effected by a loss of cognition. I don't agree with demonising older people from age groups - there are many younger people who should not be on the road - look at their health conditions and mental states - I don't think anyone on certain prescribed drugs should be on the road either - illegal drugs also. I had the knowledge that a driver of a train told me they regularly took THC before driving the train, and signed the sheet as "not having taken any drugs". The person thought they were smart. I did not have the right to report this to the authorities. It had to be relied upon that they would be regularly tested at the workplace. I had it on my mind - as they were driving a train. I thought I should have been permitted to report this. Doctors and health professionals need be given the power to report these diagnosis and make reporting easily accessible.

    Posted by caperteewaratah on 01 Feb 2019

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    Patricia

    Yes I believe so,safety first

    Posted by Patricia on 01 Feb 2019

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    squeekums1

    Yes, your reflexes are simply not what they were, nor is eyesight or hearing. Whats the issue with putting them on say E (elderly) plates The parking and general driving in my town from the elderly is horrible, some of then can barely walk from car, barely see over wheel, barely hold a trolly, routinely park across 2 spaces as they have no idea how big their car is They should be tested, they are unsafe. Driving is a privilege, not a right, even for the elderly

    Posted by squeekums1 on 01 Feb 2019

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    Pedro24

    NO. There are just as many young drivers who cause accidents by their feelings of being invincible and "it must have been their fault - not mine" attitude. If you are going to retest people because of their mature age then the same must apply to young people as well. Many young people like to think they have all the experience in the world and do cause a lot of accidents. Many accidents involving elderly drivers are single vehicle accidents.

    Posted by Pedro24 on 31 Jan 2019

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    Dei

    Yes, I do. Mny elderly Mum underwent health and driver testing reviews in her latter years. She voluntarily gave up her licence around the age of 88, because she felt her reflexes were slower and she didn't believe it was fair to other drivers if her skills and alertness were lacking.

    Posted by Dei on 31 Jan 2019

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    squeekums1

    Good on her, that takes a big person to hand it in. Much respect from a 30 yr old who dont drive due to anxiety and flashbacks from an accident that almost killed me, not my fault. My reactions to normal road situations make me unsafe for myself and others. I could fudge my way through the test but i have no right to given im not safe

    Posted by squeekums1 on 01 Feb 2019

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    Michael

    Yes of course

    Posted by Michael on 31 Jan 2019

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    Nathan

    Yeah...they definitely should. Just for decreasing repercussions and maybe preventing possible accidents from occurring. I don't blame the older folks for these unfortunate events happening because we're living in a time where there are more and more careless and offensive drivers and though the older folks will be aging, their reflexes, visuals,hearing abilities will tend to be not as functional as it did back then. So I absolutely agree with the whole idea for the elders of our society to undergo another driving test for everyone's benefit.

    Posted by Nathan on 31 Jan 2019

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    bijouxxx

    I agree, as we get older. Road rules change & our ability to make judgements & our health tend to deteriorate. An individual at any age should be able prove they can still maintain the capacity to still drive.

    Posted by bijouxxx on 31 Jan 2019

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    Jane

    Definitely yes. My mother keeps her license because she passes her medical test and eyesight test. Her driving is so bad I refuse to get in her car with her when she is driving. I have followed her and she is all over the road and totally unaware of other cars along side her when she changes lanes. If she was re-tested she would fail her test and they would finally take her license away from her.

    Posted by Jane on 31 Jan 2019

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    squeekums1

    It would suck to do cos its your mum but dob her in, to her dr, when she driving and you know it, call the cops. How would she feel if she killed someone? Its a privilege to drive, not a right

    Posted by squeekums1 on 02 Feb 2019

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    caperteewaratah

    Report this to her doctor and your concerns, a doctor can report to the driving licencing authority, but many do not unless urged to. Another idea is to remove something from the car so it will not go - like the battery terminal if you are so worried about her. If she is driving so erratically I would take the keys from her, if you are so worried.

    Posted by caperteewaratah on 01 Feb 2019

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    A48

    as licences are mainly gained at 17yrs. rules and regualtions change regularly eg roundabouts, each 10years a computer test until aged 75 computer and doctors ok, 80 computer, doctors, 85 upwards all plus occupational testing

    Posted by A48 on 31 Jan 2019

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    Who? Me?

    I have seen P platers who don't know how to use a roundabout correctly. What do we do to overcome that?

    Posted by Who? Me? on 01 Feb 2019

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    aussieladee

    YES! Retesting should take place every 10 years for all ages because many of us got our licences decades ago & because of that we are not always up to date with the rules. I am 57 & have been driving for 40 years but I doubt I could pass the road rules questionnaire used to get yr licence in the beginning. What is even scarier is that we are teaching our kids to drive & expect them to become safe drivers yet many of those teaching are not up to date with the laws & have not been tested since we first obtained our licence.

    Posted by aussieladee on 31 Jan 2019

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    oldboy63

    Why only older drivers

    Posted by oldboy63 on 31 Jan 2019

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    Neil

    I have no problem with that, I'm 82. In NSW, (could be Australia wide), you have to do a driving test when you turn 85. My health is excellent compared to a few younger drivers I know.

    Posted by Neil on 31 Jan 2019

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    ladytiger

    I am 72 and would be happy to undergo a Driver Retesting if necessary.. I would also like to agree with other posts here about having reflex testing done as well..

    Posted by ladytiger on 31 Jan 2019

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    jabez

    Yes I think it is a good idea - I am 81 and still drive - you can't put everyone in the same box. People are amazed when I tell them my age because of the things I do - but for my own peace of mind I would be happy to have a test

    Posted by jabez on 31 Jan 2019

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    Who? Me?

    The survey data seems rather odd when the percentage figures add up to 204%. What do I think? I think the survey is a crock with rubbery figures like that.

    Posted by Who? Me? on 31 Jan 2019

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    phonebox

    none a doctor check is all you need

    Posted by phonebox on 31 Jan 2019

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    John

    who pays for doctors check ?

    Posted by John on 02 Feb 2019

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    Maria

    Only if it’s necessary,

    Posted by Maria on 31 Jan 2019

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    caperteewaratah

    Who is going to say it is necessary? The family, the doctor? or wait until there is an accident? There needs to be something to guide doctors to report it and also family.

    Posted by caperteewaratah on 01 Feb 2019

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    Dutch clogs

    No but I do think they should have a medical every 6 months for there reflexes & there eyesight as there's more accidents cars going into houses & buildings where there put there foot on accelerated instead of the brake & medical episodes & I'm 70 so I would agee to this, I know we like our independence but when your putting people in danger this has to stop

    Posted by Dutch clogs on 31 Jan 2019

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    Who? Me?

    I think people should also be able to be able to speak and write properly in English before they get a drivers licence. They should know the difference between THERE (a place) and THEIR (ownership). How many cars into buildings are due to younger drivers? Are we going to check THEIR relexes and eyesight too?

    Posted by Who? Me? on 31 Jan 2019

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    Rodney

    Yes , because eyes could be going &reflexers are slowet

    Posted by Rodney on 31 Jan 2019

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    micknicho

    Why should they, they have to do a medical every year after 75 so why testing as well.

    Posted by micknicho on 31 Jan 2019

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    aussieladee

    Doctors are reluctant to cancel their licences because it is often their only means of transport but more importantly it is a big part of feeling independent. I have too often seen personally & professionally where doctors have cleared them even though it is obvious they shouldn't be driving due to having serious health issues. It should not be up a GP to declare them fit to drive & if we introduced a 10 yearly driving test for all ages then it would go a long way to making sure everyone is safe on the road.

    Posted by aussieladee on 31 Jan 2019

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    rose

    If the GP declarations were stopped, it should be a bi-annual driving test at least, not 10 years. I'm 78 and driving, my husband is 86 and driving --- 10 year intervals are MUCH too long for either of us!

    Posted by rose on 31 Jan 2019

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    caperteewaratah

    Agree a lot can be lost in 10 years, and GP's are reluctant to say anything to authorities due to not wanting to be the baddies. Doctors need guidelines on reporting for certain conditons to make the way for retesting or removing a licence.

    Posted by caperteewaratah on 01 Feb 2019

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    Likeable

    Thoroughly agree with you.

    Posted by Likeable on 01 Feb 2019

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    margaretjulia

    I had an elderly mother with dimensure driving at 85 and her gp was too frightened of her to say she could not drive. Age does not have much to do with it, ability does at any given age.

    Posted by margaretjulia on 31 Jan 2019

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    lorriep

    depends on how many demerit points etc.

    Posted by lorriep on 31 Jan 2019

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    David

    I think that in light of the statistics that retesting of their driving skills is a warranted measure.

    Posted by David on 31 Jan 2019

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    kimmy50

    i think 70 plus should but saying that there drivers younger then that having accidents alot of old ppl drive so carefully

    Posted by kimmy50 on 31 Jan 2019

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    Valerie

    Yes I do. I am an 86 year old lady and although I have all my faculties (in my opinion) I gave up driving 3 years ago as I didn't feel that people over the age of 80 have the same reflexes. It has been easy for me as my husband is younger and retired so I don't have to drive, not sure what people over 80 who have no one to drive them about, do! I guess we would have to get taxies.

    Posted by Valerie on 31 Jan 2019

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    margaretjulia

    You are a wise lady

    Posted by margaretjulia on 31 Jan 2019

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    johnmfromoz

    Yes I think it is a good idea not so much the driving ability because sometimes I think older people use common sense more than young drivers but the rules of the road change and it is important that we all abide by the rules for everyones safety

    Posted by johnmfromoz on 31 Jan 2019

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    rosielin

    Yes I think it's a great idea, Years ago I taught my son how to drive and revising the manual was interesting. i didn't realise how many changes had occured.

    Posted by rosielin on 31 Jan 2019

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    Acid-Rain

    yes i do think this is fair, i also think the driving testers should under go more stringent testing as well as a good proportion of them do not teach properly

    Posted by Acid-Rain on 31 Jan 2019

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    Shane

    totally agree I have relatives that I am trying t encourage to give up their licences It would be hard for me to do if I was in this situation But can I say I think licence testing should be looked at because there are many P plate drivers out their that seem to have no idea of the rules on the road and thay don't seem to be able to handle the car I know I am generalising here but i see too many situations that it does warrant a look into

    Posted by Shane on 31 Jan 2019

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    musicveg

    I think it is discrimination to just test older people. Most of the bad drivers I see are younger than 50. My mum is 82 and she is a really good careful driver, never had an accident, does not drive long distance because she knows she will tire, she knows her limitations and says she will know when she has to stop. She would lose her independence and not able to go out to see her friends or visit family anymore, it would isolate her and make it extremely difficult to even do shopping. Testing needs to be done on a case to case basis and not just for the elderly, all ages especially those who are continuously getting caught for bad driving, speeding etc. And we have to be careful that testing does not become a money making business for the RTA, unless they do it for free.

    Posted by musicveg on 31 Jan 2019

  • [0] [4]
    Brooke

    Yes. Because most of the time the older you get your reflex’s and reaction towards things become much slower. Eye testing definitely should be tested for elderly people. Also, the road rules & signage etc have changed since years ago, so some elderly people may not be aware of what some signs mean.

    Posted by Brooke on 31 Jan 2019

  • [1] [0]
    johnmfromoz

    Currently as we all get older it is a requirement that a doctor certifies you capable of driving ,lets not get into medical reasons lets just think about the rules

    Posted by johnmfromoz on 31 Jan 2019

  • [1] [0]
    caperteewaratah

    yeah and its 80 years of age - thats fairly old. Medical reasons is more fair - as some older people do drive ok. And there are younger people who for medical reasons should not be driving such as epilepsy, drug addiction,mental health. Age is not a good descriptor.

    Posted by caperteewaratah on 01 Feb 2019

  • [3] [0]
    Lily of the Valley

    In Queensland it is compulsory for over 75's to have medical and eye tests every year, my reflex's are no slower than when I was younger, I think you have to concentrate, some people are old at 50 and many are still young at 80.

    Posted by Lily of the Valley on 31 Jan 2019

  • [0] [2]
    Jordan

    Yes, because the speed of your reactions at an old age are severely reduced, thus making it harder to avoid accidents

    Posted by Jordan on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [4]
    Hope4andrew78

    Yes they should, because they are starting to become a major hazard to other drivers that are on the road at the same time as them..

    Posted by Hope4andrew78 on 30 Jan 2019

  • [1] [1]
    cat066

    I think everyone should be retested every 20 year, until 60 then 10years then once 70 every 5 years

    Posted by cat066 on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    Alisonk

    I think everyone should be retested

    Posted by Alisonk on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    Little Legs

    I believe there should be testing for everyone when they renew their licence, not just the elderly, particularly as there are so many new rules brought in at different times. Even the old tests where you have to read the letters on the mirror, etc is no longer done.

    Posted by Little Legs on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    hoppy555

    I was injured in a motorcycle accident which caused me to be in hospital for over 14 months . 15 years later i needed to do my test and pass three times before i was returned the right to have a license . When or if i do get to get older i would gladly reapply every year . The whole world falls apart for a whole generation because of drivers whom have no regards for anyone but themselves .

    Posted by hoppy555 on 30 Jan 2019

  • [2] [1]
    Daphne

    I believe they are regularly tested ( annually in N.S. W) also so are cars for roadworthiness. So yes, However, the statistics on young drivers is worse.

    Posted by Daphne on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    love hearts

    yes elderly drivers should be tested im 75 and drive and would expect that when my driveing licence needs renewing on my birthday i dont have a problem if im asked to take a test its keeping the rest of Australia safe and knowing im still good to drive.

    Posted by love hearts on 30 Jan 2019

  • [4] [0]
    8181

    As someone else said, if a doctor thinks there is need for concern then there may be an issue but I'm worried the government will actually use this as a revenue raiser on people who don't have much money (who would think?)

    Posted by 8181 on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    hoppy555

    I was in hospital for over 14 months because a driver said that they did not see a stop sign . That driver i was told was in their thirties . I am disabled for the rest of the time i am allowed to survive . Money is what i do not have though i do see a doctor monthly and if i am told that there is a concern i would never drive again . I only received workers comp over thirty years ago and lost 80% in lawyers fees in divorce . People do think .

    Posted by hoppy555 on 30 Jan 2019

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    The Welsh Wizard

    If the elderly are a concern then retesting should be done on the advice of the family doctor or family members. Not everyone that is aged needs retesting. It's just a few, so why should the majority be penalised. Retesting is obviously going to cost a fee and many of the aged are struggling financially as it is. The doctor is the best person to access their aged patients competence and order a retesting. Don't penalise the many for a few.

    Posted by The Welsh Wizard on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    The Welsh Wizard

    There are people who need retesting, you will see them at any school dropping off their children or picking them up. They double or even triple park. They block the road way when they want to turn into a school car park which is already full and they can't enter, but they will block the road for up to ten minutes waiting for someone to leave. Sometimes there is even road rage. It is interesting to notice on occasion these drivers are still in their pyjamas.

    Posted by The Welsh Wizard on 30 Jan 2019

  • [2] [2]
    Tonyporritt

    no, the test for anyone should be much harder. P platers are a menas.

    Posted by Tonyporritt on 30 Jan 2019

  • [1] [1]
    GAAS

    No but they should have yearly basic medical eye tests etc. and do a special driving test every few years to check their reflex ability.

    Posted by GAAS on 30 Jan 2019

  • [1] [1]
    Lily of the Valley

    I am 77 years old and have yearly medical including eye tests every year, this is compulsory in Queensland, I see lots of P Platers who should be retested, the risks they take when overtaking has to be seen to be believed.

    Posted by Lily of the Valley on 31 Jan 2019

  • [2] [1]
    Margaret

    Maybe everyone should be retested every 5 to 10 years

    Posted by Margaret on 30 Jan 2019

  • [1] [0]
    hoppy555

    Can you afford the cost ?

    Posted by hoppy555 on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [2]
    derek

    I am 64, but believe it is a reasonable argument to be retested once turning 70,then every 5 yrs thereafter.

    Posted by derek on 30 Jan 2019

  • [1] [3]
    Four

    I am an elderly driver over 75 & have to do a strict Medical test yearly, I think a lot of Accidents with elderly drivers are being caused with Automatic Geared Cars where the driver selects the wrong gear & accelerates with no stalling of the engine like a manual gear car after a mistake.

    Posted by Four on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    hoppy555

    Some drivers can not use both legs .

    Posted by hoppy555 on 30 Jan 2019

  • [3] [0]
    Blank Jim

    Give elderly drivers the same practical test as everybody else; no need for the theory component.

    Posted by Blank Jim on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [3]
    TUBZY

    yes why not the driving laws keep changing so it would not hurt

    Posted by TUBZY on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    Terrym42

    As a 76 year old driver, I think everyone should have to fill out the multi answer question form every year so if any changes come into force they would be made aware of them, this could be done online or in transport outlet, you can cheat but at least you have to read the booklet, If a low % is received than they have to re- sit a test. but more important all "P" plater should be made to sit the test again in the first year as they think they know it all & they don't. And as far as the stats go, I take them with a pinch of salt, because If someone decides to commits suicide on our roads, that person becomes a road death, so much for stats.

    Posted by Terrym42 on 30 Jan 2019

  • [3] [0]
    pheath

    Medical test only Eyesight. Reflexes Body movement Etc etc etc Any thing else is overkill especially for those living in country areas

    Posted by pheath on 30 Jan 2019

  • [3] [1]
    socker

    I think it is more important drivers caught speeding than retesting older drivers

    Posted by socker on 30 Jan 2019

  • [1] [1]
    Trevmax

    Having my own mother involved in crashes from aged 70 on the answer is YES. She did not tell us of most of the accidents she had as they only involved her, she nodded-off crashing into ditches this was on country roads. Thankfully no one else was involved we, her children, only found out about most of the crashes after she stopped driving when we banned her from driving after she nearly killed herself, writing-off her car, she got the messages in the end but could have disastrous. Its not necessarily the injuries theycause to themselves but injuries caused and death of others.

    Posted by Trevmax on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    lynette

    Goodness Trevmax I wonder how many crashes she had? What about Prince Philip crashing his car causing the passenger of the other car to get a broken wrist. The Royal family should pay the other driver's car mechanic bill and for medical for the passenger. P platers too are bad I read in the other comments. Yes I think the elderly should be tested because their reflexes are slower.

    Posted by lynette on 31 Jan 2019

  • [1] [2]
    Ebony

    Absolutely need to re-sit! The stats prove it

    Posted by Ebony on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [0]
    Likeable

    I am concerned equally about the younger drivers and the older drivers. I feel that it is reasonable to ask elderly to undergo regular testing. The driving test that they did originally does not take in to account all of things that have changed in driving. My husband has just been for a medical to renew his license however even though that was good it does not say what sought of driver that he is.

    Posted by Likeable on 30 Jan 2019

  • [1] [1]
    coaster

    I am 69 and I agree with the elderly retesting. I know a person who should never have been driving as he suffered from Narcolepsy and he was also in the early stages of dementia but the doctor said he was OK. Far from it. He would just fall asleep anywhere at any time maybe for seconds or minutes. He would stop at the lights and drop off. Even driving along he would drop off for a few seconds yet the doctor said he would be fine if he took his meds. NUP. Eventually the family took his car away and he is now in a nursing home all within a year of the doctor saying he was OK. Makes you wonder. Yes retesting is a must as are regular doctors check ups and if something shows up the doctor should state that either he gives up his licence or get retested and I think it should be notifiable to the licencing section.

    Posted by coaster on 30 Jan 2019

  • [2] [1]
    MARTY

    I think it is far more important to raise the minimum age to hold a driving licence to 21. Additionally to restrict learners and P plate drivers to 4 cylinder vehicles for their first year of licensing. A more professional approach to learning to drive correctly in during the earlier years may assist with greater care and more experience in the later years. As far as the seniors go, a medical conducted by an authorised government doctor annually should be considered with perhaps a driving test considered at the age of 75 then every three or four years.

    Posted by MARTY on 30 Jan 2019

  • [2] [0]
    Stacy

    I am just as concerned with the over 70 as I am with the under 25. Both have completely different reasons for the concern. But personally i think that both need heavier scrutiny. However with car going self drive is it even a question that needs debating. i know my teenager will be getting a tesla when they can drive. I hate the idea of a 70 year old losing their independence that they have earned but this could be avoided if we took the human factor out of the equation. I know computer science isn't 100% perfect but it seems more consistent than human failure.

    Posted by Stacy on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    hoppy555

    You are very correct . Machines are not a ansaw to end mistakes . Machine is the cause the cause for my brain damage . 15 years of rehab to learn to talk and the only reason i know my family is because i have been told .

    Posted by hoppy555 on 30 Jan 2019

  • [5] [0]
    bloggie

    I am 71 and I have never had an accident nor any fines in the 53 years I have been driving. Personally I would not support retesting for drivers in my age group but I can concede that some may be getting around the medical requirement with lax GPs. I would however like to see the accident stats for drivers aged 18 to 25 - their fascination with mobile phones would be a major factor in their stats!

    Posted by bloggie on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [0]
    coaster

    I too have been driving for over 50 years and no accidents etc. but I have seen too many elderly drivers who really should not be on the road. I agree the young ones are a scary lot always with their heads down texting or speeding or on drugs. I would support testing as I know a few who should not be on the road. I also think a lot of the elderly are a bit arrogant about their driving saying I have been driving for years, not had an accident such as us but that does not necessarily make us good drivers.

    Posted by coaster on 30 Jan 2019

  • [0] [1]
    ere

    I drive about 1000km a week and I see more young drivers texting or using their phones, weaving from side to side of the road than older drivers. My main issue with older drivers is they tend to be too cautious when driving, stopping at intersections or roundabouts when they don't need to. P platers seem to think they are bullet proof, tailgating, passing on double white lines, speeding, using their phones, and saving electricity by not using their indicators. Maybe ALL drivers should be re-tested every couple of years not just oldies?

    Posted by ere on 30 Jan 2019

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