The British Royal family have faced more criticism recently than ever before.
It seems that one royal stuff up after another has put the monarchy on shaky
ground. From scandals to using taxpayers money to renovate their cottages, are
monarchies outdated? Do you think the Windsor’s time is up? Should the
Royal family take a back seat? What do you think LiveTribers?
Posted by on 02 Dec 2019
I don't think the Monarchy is outdated, but in certain circumstances they need
to be accountable for their actions. Ultimately, I would not want to see
Australia become a Republic.
Prince Andrew is a bit stupid, but Charles, Harry, Princes Anne all do a good
job, the Queen is outstanding. If you take class away from society all you are
left with are a bunch of grubby polititions .
Australia seems to follow more American then English???
Halloween, Black Friday after Thanks giving???
A whole lot of unnecessary consumerism & landfill...
Let's get back to basics instead of being controlled my materialism...
Need & want are two different things...
From time to time our Great British Monarchy like most humans make errors of
judgement and commit sin. I believe we are fortunate to have had Elizabeth 2 for
so long. She will be a hard act to follow. Compared to most so called Democratic
Republics the modern era British Monarchy has been a beacon of stability and
service to all the Commonwealth and rarely gets involved in the grubbyness of
partisan politics..... thank god. If you compare the Westminster Systems to the
American debacle of their system our Monarchy is a beacon of stability and hope!
Yes.... I fully realise how the current Royals obtained their wealth and the
outrageousness of the British Peerage but it could be much worse. Look at most
.. most economic, social and environmental basket cases.!
I think the royal family has run it time, so they should change, they are needy
people wanting to use tax payer's funds for their homes to be renovated and then
want to hide away like the actress Megan, I would say it is a two-way street
give & take which they don't do. Hide from the scandal that has occurred with
it's been a long rein from the Royal family and its the new age with a rapidly
growing and developing nations of particular needs and demands on change and
it's about time this world was introduced to a new person or persons in command
that will without a doubt put the needs of their people before anything else!!
Yes I really do think so, it's long overdue and definitely time to let go! And
since the tragic death of Princess Di in 1997, I've lost all respect for them.
About time they slinked off into the distance I say!
(spoiler alert) You're mistaken on the question. It is about is the queen
(monarchy) outdated, not is Queensland outdated - that one is obvious ! Now I
sit back and wait for the flack ! It would be a bit more interesting and
thoughtful than some of the rubbish that has been written so far.
Take a look at countries with a President, Dictator or Army in power and ask
which you would really prefer - someone with little or no experience, who is not
reared from birth to make service to others their life with advisors, history
and tradition behind them who is still answerable to the people and their
elected Government or someone with political power for a couple of years or who
may remove anyone else in their way or who disagrees while they become
megalomaniacs, drunk on what they can accumulate while in power?
Some like Trump have become uncontrollable because anyone who has disagreed or
tried to rein him in is removed. he believes he is so important he can insult
any other Head of a country, even the Queen of England and other presidents. His
ignorance, lack of political experience when he was elected as a joke, and lack
of historical, geographical, political and general knowledge has made him
dangerous not only to his country but the World. Look at the dictators and Army
generals ruling countries with violence with most people living in dire poverty
The Philippines, for example where the Dictator/President shoots anyone homeless
or on the streets at night. A whole poor neighbourhood was torched with hundreds
of people burnt to death last week!
Did anyone outside the country know or care? No! I heard through a friend with
Give me the Royal Family of England where their whole lives are devoted to
service , with a few bad eggs like most families.
Do people realise the incredible work done quietly and with no publicity by
Princess Anne. She spends her life working amongst charities around the world
and her children earn their living and do not depend on the Public Purse. They
do not even have titles any more.
Very few realise the tireless work and exhausting days personally spent by
Prince Charles for the Duchy of Cornwall which employs thousands, builds houses
and ensures the protection of the environment and the welfare of those living in
a huge part of Britain. The anti Royalists are just ignorant of the benefits and
work done which so rarely gets publicised and they only hear the often false
gossip in the Media.
No I don't think outdated describes the Royal Family at all . Firstly there is
the family , then there is the traditional " Royal Family , "
I am in no way a royalist , never the less the family do an amazing job , and
with the scrutiny they undergo their lives are not a bed of roses .
I am sure those who try to pull down the Monarchy would not be capable of
carrying out the role themselves.
Live and let live I say, and who cares if there is an occasional scandal !
If you took away all the pomp and ceremony, they are just like any other
family,they have disagreements,births,deaths, marriages,birthdays,divorce,they
feel emotions happy,sad anger,jealousy,disappointment,anxiety etc, their human
like everyone else, the only difference is their lives are documented in the
media,right down to the body language facial expressions,according to the
paparazzi they know exactly what's happening within the family, the paparazzi
don't really have any idea,what the media doesn't know, they will make it up
just to sell papers,magazines and gossip rag. The young members of the family
are trying to genuinely help bridge the gap with the public, they are more
natural interacting will the public. The older generation of the family need to
retire to make way for a breath of fresh air.
Yes they should take a break, especially after the Jeffery Epstein incident ,
will be the monarchy biggest scandal since the late princess of Wales, Lady
Dianna, this type of incident sexual abuses of unwanted consent against young
woman, is yet to be made world wide news for the next 12 months or more, with
harendious consequences, on not only TAX payers, but on the real truth to come
out about other high profile stars and the connections, on their perverted
meetings, in regards to child pedophiles.
Oh for Heavens Sake! What about all the scandals associated with American and
other Presidents? Yes the scandal of Prince Andrew has hit the headlines as did
Diana's behaviour but it involved 16 and 17 year old young women (above the age
of consent in Britain and old enough to know better. They knew what they were
doing and were hardly innocents. They enjoyed the glamour, excitement, the
parties, presents, mixing with celebrities, and all paid for jet setting luxury
lifestyle. It has taken them years to complain and can you see them looking
terrified and unhappy in the photos from that time? If they had been 14 or
younger it would be a very different story and I would be very sorry for them
but having once been 17 years old myself I have no sympathy for their protests,
wish to be seen as victims and grab for payouts now
And Tania I suppose you think that these young women didn't know exactly what
they were doing , of course they did & would have been pocketing what they made
out of it . Like a lot of other women who are continuing to bring down the same
men who payed and paved the way for the lifestyle they chose 20/30 & even 40yrs
ago . Now they see another opportunity for a second bite of the cherry .
Oportunists then and now , unwanted consent rubbish what were they there for
I do not think they are over but I do think they need updating but I see that
change coming with Will. I would like to see Charles mentor William as King.
Charles should not be King. I think they are an important part of who England is
I think even though there is scandals they are important.
Definitely not. Our Governor General is her representative here in Australia,
but she does not interfere or make political decisions even in UK. Our Head of
State is the Governor General or the State governors. They have no power unless
of course the government be it Federal or State do something wrong and breach
Mnoarchy needs to take another direction. Original to be the leader in wars is
no longer a primary reason. Today the hierarchy needs to be sorted so that
only the top 2 are protected to reign, As the list goes down the more reliant
on monarchy finances gets less. Those staying in royal palaces pay rent
according to their level and usage. Renew their role in commonwealth parliaments
to keep westminsiter in vogue as it is more democratic for all
The British Royal Family is the equal to Americas' Hollywood, & any Governments
from around the world, in that there is always a scandal to keep them on the
front page & the media in a job. Where would Britain be without the Royal
Family? Would the tourist still come to Britain? Don't forget the interest they
create when there is a wedding / birth / death in the family. They are essential
for the British Economy.
Think their continuity will depend on whether Charles becomes King. Feel if he
does it will be the end of the reign. William could keep the Monarchy going and
continue to bring in the dollars that Great Britain need from the tourism they
help create, but Charles was part of the Annus Horribilis and there are many who
have not only not forgotten but also not forgiven the way he treated the
People's Princess, Diana. The Monarchy is one of the big drawcards to visit
London and it has slowly reduced its call on the public purse by managing with
its own income from its land ownership. But who knows how things will go after
Queen Elizabeth dies.
So few outside Britain realise the incredible work Charles does day in and day
out. he is not the looney loser so often shown in the Media. he is a very hands
on landlord of a huge part of Britain where his tenants love him as he is always
there, checking on their welfare, building houses, protecting the environment
etc. The rents etc go towards Charles' income as well as this numerous
charities. His whole life from birth has been one of constant service,
education, learning to rule and media criticism. He is trying to pass his
knowledge and experience onto Will who is still too young and Harry who has
shown he is not really fit to rule, lovable as he is.
Yes, totally outdated themselves. Too much controversy amounts members of the
family. The Queen needs to give back Crown Land to the First Nation's peoples of
Australia under the condition that they do not sell the land for mining or to
I understand the fear of change here but isn't it a bit strange supporting one
single family to live out an almost utter fantasy? Lining up in the streets to
see these people conducting PR stunts to remain relevant in the minds of
strangers? I don't care either way honestly, they seem like ok people I guess.
It's just very weird to me. If people support the royals because they fear how
corrupt our politicians are then that's very telling about our situation.
Absolutely not! The Queen is a wonderful ambassador for the United Kingdom.
Neither Prince Andrew nor Prince Harry are likely to ascend to the Throne
The Royal Family provide continuity in a way that a Republican system never can,
and the senior members of the Royal Family are brought up knowing their
We could say its outdated but I think they are more important than ever in a
world of uncertainty. It doesn't matter who is elected, power corrupts. With the
royal family they cant impose their personal views on us. They are born into the
position and learn public service from the beginning. We have to remember they
are human beings with all the flaws we all have. The countries with a monarchy
like Denmark, Sweden etc, with the exception of countries like Saudi Arabia etc,
are better off. The USA is going downhill fast. I don't want Australia to follow
the path of the USA. Keep the monarchy. We will always know who we are dealing
Very well said and I could not agree more. We have a Government at present who
seem to think and act like Dictators so just imagine if we were a Republic, we
would have people like Morrison and Dutton as President and Vice President. They
already act like workers don't deserve to be paid well. The Royal Family do not
interfere with the running of our Country and like you mentioned, the other
Countries who also have Royal Families are stable and safe Monarchies, with
exception to Saudi Arabia. Keep the British Monarchy, with all their faults they
are still better than the other Republics in the world.
The conduct of the present lot of Royals are substandard, except for the Queen,
and the younger Royals will be no different from the general population they
have grown up with, deceived by the global warming lie, just a move of global
wealth from the rich countries to the poorer ones, but apart from that, all
remains the same.
Who would be our head of State- another corrupt politician who we pay far too
much for!!! Both sides are pulling down the other. We spend far too much now
on Governor General's (one for each state) I would like to see the younger ones
take over not Charles & Camilla & one of them to come to Australia to be the one
& only Governor General what do they do other than opening places I hear nothing
about them & I am not interested. The Royals & others need to have to live off
a normal wage. They have no-idea how difficult it can be when you get no help.
I had a friend that was in a political party & he laughed when I told him what
my son earnt annually - he said that he could earn 10 times as much!!!!
If you read history you will find that the Royal Family have been in worse
favour in the past than they are now. They are people, not machines, so yes they
'stuff up' just as everyone else does.
What alternative do people who criticise the Royal Family have in mind?
Socialism with a corrupt 'president' who becomes a dictator? A republic with a
corrupt 'head of state' who becomes a dictator? Name me one leader in any
country who is potentially seen as an alternative to a monarch who is squeaky
clean, doesn't get involved in financial corruption, sexual scandal or political
treachery. You can't because they all misbehave in some way. Putin, Trump,
Mussolini, Hitler, the Chinese leaders, that North Korean idiot ... IMO all far
worse options than the Royal Family.
Don't forget that the Royal Family prop up the UK economy. Take them away, throw
in Brexit and the UK will be in a depression for a long long time.
Ha Ha ! I like the pun (or is it just a typo?) - either way, it won't happen
directly. HM won't step down, because she has promised to continue to serve the
Commonwealth, and the only way that William can then take over is with Charles
abdicating or dying (or a possible majority vote by the whole Commonwealth
countries). These scenarios are less likely than the current order.
How many corrupt governments are there in the world? At least having a queen
who is non-political, there is some balance to presidents etc. who start
exercising powers in their own interests (Trump, Putin, Xi, and quite a few
others now and in the past). While there are people who just can't stand the
thought of royalty, the queen has pledged her service to the Commonwealth of
Nations (note that is plural) since her crowning - how many can say they have
honoured that sort of commitment since? We have the Westminster system of
government that is the envy of many countries, because we are a part of a larger
group of nations with a stabilising head of state. Also, in other parts of the
world, have you noticed that some of the most stable and caring countries also
have their own kings and queens (ie Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands etc.).
Of course we should keep what we have, the alternative isn't really a better
The BRF are not perfect but then what family is? The Queen has done an amazing
job in her many years on the throne and as Head of State of a large number of
Commonwealth countries. None of her PMs except Blair have tried to guess what
she really thinks about therm and their policies.
She is the best argument we have for NOT accepting the mindless chatter to move
to a republic - just think: we could have our own version of the Trump circus!
Prince Charles plans to scale back the extended family involvement. That policy
will get rid of Andrew, Fergie and their infernal circus!
Anne and Harry made the right decisions not to accept titles for their children
who are doing fine without them,
The very concept of royalty makes me cringe. The monarchy became outdated wen
the king stopped leading his people into battle and started sending them in to
fight for him. The king was king because he was the fittest person for the job.
You look at these modern day royals, parading around in the uniforms and medals
that they have not earned and it is just a slap in the face for the brave
servicemen who actually perform the duties. I very rarely agree with the french
or russians, but they sure new how to treat their royal families
If the royals wearing medals have done active service why aren't they entitled
to wear their medals? I'm guessing you haven't done any active service so don't
know the first thing about earning or wearing medals.
I am a royalist and will continue to be. The recent criticism shows that the
Royals are as human as the rest of us. I can't imagine a world without them
given their steeped traditions, pomp and ceremonies that belong to them only.
This was so evident when Princess Diana was lost to us and the outpouring of
sadness throughout the world was overwhelming. Its not just the commonwealth
countries who love the Monarchy but other countries too. The Royals have their
place in this world just like us. They will continue to be human and make
mistakes, but they are loved by millions, so let them live in peace and do what
they do best by having the presence by which they were born to.
I'm not as much of a fan of the British Royal family as I used to be - thanks to
Meghan, but I don't believe they are outdated. Like most families they have
their troubles - but sometimes I don't understand why there is so much bickering
between them all, especially when they wear glamorous clothes live in big
palaces while some people in the real world struggle from pay check to pay
check, or worse are homeless. I would like to see the younger Royals do more
hands-on work like work with a charity 2 days a week or something rather than
attend fancy dinners or visiting various charities they support for a few hours
making small talk. There is also the question on how much longer the British
taxpayers can afford them.
I have grown up with the royals, so they have their place for me. They have
thousands of years of history in the United kingdom, but they do not rule the UK
the government does that. They have certain duties to perform and a ceremonial
role to play within the UK laws. It may seem outdated to some, but a enduring
symbol of hope and stability for the British people.
Yes outdated. Pomp and ceremony is traditionally nice but I think it is very
'hasbeen' in these modern times. They are human after all, they live and learn
like the rest of us. I don't think it is fair that the royals , born with a
silver spoon in their mouths, are automatically entitled to such wealth, while
there are people who have nothing and who are struggling just to exist.
VERY outdated. What do they do anyway? The Government rules England not the
royals. And they cost the taxpayers mega heaps. Surely this money could be spent
on education and health. They could live off their own fortune.
How much does the royal family cost the British taxpayer? Can you put a figure
on it? Around 70 pence per taxpayer per year doesn't sound like an exhorbitant
amount to me. Nor does 70 pence sound like mega heaps.
Yes, the money spent maintaining royal properties etc for personal use is a
waste, I get that people love their royals but wouldnt the British people be
better off not spending tax dollars on the royal family, using the palace as a
tourist destination instead of a private residence etc, then there is the huge
amounts of money individual countries spend on the royal family when they visit.
Times need to move forward with the people not stay in the past, history means
nothing when the future is going down the toilet.
Yes outdated, we will never progress to an equal society as long as we cling to
kings and queens way of thinking. You only have to look at the history and find
out how they got where they are, it is disgusting. There is so much poverty in
England, so many struggling and yet they live so richly on taxpayers money. Yes
they do charity work, yes they bring in the dollars for tourism, but at the same
time they spend way more money on their way of life and to protect them. We need
to hear more about the good things Prince Charles is doing and less of the drama
caused by the media on the others in the royal family. Hopefully the future
generations will live more modestly and give more of their wealth to helping the
You cannot keep going back in history and blaming each subsequent generation for
their mistakes. Times have changed. Yes they are privileged but the earn their
dollars and who would want to live the the fish bowl they do. They employ so
many which I think is over looked. Without this employment the people would be
worse off. A lot of the bad press has to stop. Every family has problems but
to have them splashed all over media is a disgrace and then you get the trolls.
They are raising money for charity, building and repairing old villages, working
in a ecological way with farmers etc. I don't think enough of the positives are
written or spoken about but then everyone would rather throw mud wouldn't they
I think everyone should look at the tourist dollars they bring into the country,
the good they do in various areas which far outweighs the cost to the public
purse. I do think along the lines it should be trimmed down a bit and they do
live privileged lives but the press whether tabloid or magazines or even on line
now is absolutely vicious in their portrayal of this family. They seem to pick
on one or two and then hound them with half truths, innuendo etc.
For all intents and purpose we in Australia rule our own land.
I am not a Monarchist but I do love the pomp and ceremony and the history of
this family and those before. They are a bit removed from normal people but
then again most people in this sphere are but I do think they at least try and
do speak to people in all walks of life. I think if you read up on Prince
Charles work you will be surprised and he is passing it on to his son the future
If we have a choice between the USA Presidential Government and the UK Royal
family then it is going to be the UK Royal Family. Slimmed down and modernised.
Never ever want to have a President elected by the people. Shocking to think
of this happening in Australia
All Monarchies, including the British one, under which still are Australia,
Canada & NZ, are certainly out of place in the 21st century, where the democracy
in a Republic settings are the optimum modes of operation in the vast majority
of the countries on our planet today.
The citizens in any country,who work hard & all have the right of say about the
use of their taxes as well as have the ownership of all facilities,made for
their use & for those,who are disabled, etc unable to work full time, which are
paid with their taxes, thus the existence of a group of people, who has extra
privileges, does less work, pays NO taxes, but receives high financial
benefits,paid by the rest of the citizens' taxes.
The only reason for that abnormal & totally unbalanced situation, is given as
due to the worn out, ancient & non-egalitarian habit of that specific group's
This parasitic existence of the present royal families in the world is quite
unfair,inappropriate & completely unacceptable to the human beings,who are
living at this age & time.
Furthermore, this obvious inequality among people, creates deep distress,
unhappiness, resentment & even anger in most countries' citizens, that
constitute a serious Public Health hazard, that I've personally observed &
recorded during several research projects in both Northern & Southern
Hemispheres of the Globe, which I've undertaken for the past 35 years .
So, citizens all have the right of say about the use of their taxes! Do you put
a note with your tax return saying you want the money spent on this and not
that? What planet did you just arrive from? The government gets the money and
decide where it goes - or do you think you REALLY can tell them what to spend it
on? Also, if you check the records from years ago, the queen agreed that senior
royals DO pay taxes on relevent earnings. I am getting sick of people coming up
with stupid statements WITHOUT checking the facts first. Maybe you might like
to try learning first then giving an opinion.
It's not for us to say. If the British want to keep them so be it. However the
idea of a country having a foreign head of state is in my opinion ridiculous, so
I really think we should wave them goodbye. The whole red herring argument
brought up last time about who the replacement should be, how elected etc., was
unnecessary. If we need a head of state at all, & I don't think we do, it can be
someone nominated, say, by each state government & the final selection made by a
joint sitting of both federal Houses.
NO I don't think they are outdated, but I do however think it is time for the
media to give them a break. So much negative press about one member of the
family, yes he may have made a mistake but why does the press keep on about it.
It makes people shy away from the monarchy because of it. I also think the
press are treating Meagan unfairly, they have not left that lady alone since her
engagement to Harry was announced and that sister of hers is only saying what
she is saying to get money from press, she is nasty and jealous of Meagan. Stop
giving her family air and press time and then maybe Meagan will get a fair go.
Remember what the Press done to Dianna well they are doing exactly the same
thing to Meagan.
An overrated and inbred family who rule because of who their parents were, not
for their relevance in today's society.
The Queen is a billionaire yet leeches off the British population wherever she
and her family goes.
While 100 years ago they may have been relevant they are now no more than a
tourist attraction and a reminder of another age.