The British Royal family have faced more criticism recently than ever before. It seems that one royal stuff up after another has put the monarchy on shaky ground. From scandals to using taxpayers money to renovate their cottages, are monarchies outdated? Do you think the Windsor’s time is up? Should the Royal family take a back seat? What do you think LiveTribers?
Posted by on 02 Dec 2019
I don't think the Monarchy is outdated, but in certain circumstances they need to be accountable for their actions. Ultimately, I would not want to see Australia become a Republic.
I believe Prince Andrew has many questions to answer but in General I love the Royal and can not wait for Prince William to become King. Long live the future king..
Not the younger ones
I believe that they have outlived their usefulness. When the Queen passes away, that should be the end of the line.
I think certain royal should take a back seat due to there behaviour such as Andrew ! inappropriate behaviour and his dealings with Epstein !
The way we are going they will rule us for another decade
Prince Andrew is a bit stupid, but Charles, Harry, Princes Anne all do a good job, the Queen is outstanding. If you take class away from society all you are left with are a bunch of grubby polititions .
No their time is not up I believe that we should still have a monarchy in place otherwise we could turn out like America, scraping the bottom of the barrel
Very outdated... Australia seems to follow more American then English??? Halloween, Black Friday after Thanks giving??? A whole lot of unnecessary consumerism & landfill... Let's get back to basics instead of being controlled my materialism... Need & want are two different things...
I think it is about time that Australia cut the apron strings and became a Republic as the Monarch is wealthy enough...and really after all aren’t we the poor people that England shipped out?????
Yes UK can no longer afford to pay the cost to keep them & they are very wealthy anyway. The money saved could be made available to the health system.
From time to time our Great British Monarchy like most humans make errors of judgement and commit sin. I believe we are fortunate to have had Elizabeth 2 for so long. She will be a hard act to follow. Compared to most so called Democratic Republics the modern era British Monarchy has been a beacon of stability and service to all the Commonwealth and rarely gets involved in the grubbyness of partisan politics..... thank god. If you compare the Westminster Systems to the American debacle of their system our Monarchy is a beacon of stability and hope! Yes.... I fully realise how the current Royals obtained their wealth and the outrageousness of the British Peerage but it could be much worse. Look at most African Republic .. most economic, social and environmental basket cases.!
I think the royal family has run it time, so they should change, they are needy people wanting to use tax payer's funds for their homes to be renovated and then want to hide away like the actress Megan, I would say it is a two-way street give & take which they don't do. Hide from the scandal that has occurred with Prince Andrew.
it's been a long rein from the Royal family and its the new age with a rapidly growing and developing nations of particular needs and demands on change and it's about time this world was introduced to a new person or persons in command that will without a doubt put the needs of their people before anything else!! !!
Yes I really do think so, it's long overdue and definitely time to let go! And since the tragic death of Princess Di in 1997, I've lost all respect for them. About time they slinked off into the distance I say!
Yes, no one deserves to rule a country by birth right
I'm pretty sure they don't actually rule the country. In fact, part of the Queen's role is to remain politically impartial.
Having said that, I think it's way past time for Australia to cut her ties with Great Britian.
Yes
(spoiler alert) You're mistaken on the question. It is about is the queen (monarchy) outdated, not is Queensland outdated - that one is obvious ! Now I sit back and wait for the flack ! It would be a bit more interesting and thoughtful than some of the rubbish that has been written so far.
Yes
yes i do think they need to step back fully
Being Born in UK .IT is time the country was allowed to stand on its own two feet as the cost of keeping the royal family is taking food off Britains poor
No! I don’t think so
Take a look at countries with a President, Dictator or Army in power and ask which you would really prefer - someone with little or no experience, who is not reared from birth to make service to others their life with advisors, history and tradition behind them who is still answerable to the people and their elected Government or someone with political power for a couple of years or who may remove anyone else in their way or who disagrees while they become megalomaniacs, drunk on what they can accumulate while in power? Some like Trump have become uncontrollable because anyone who has disagreed or tried to rein him in is removed. he believes he is so important he can insult any other Head of a country, even the Queen of England and other presidents. His ignorance, lack of political experience when he was elected as a joke, and lack of historical, geographical, political and general knowledge has made him dangerous not only to his country but the World. Look at the dictators and Army generals ruling countries with violence with most people living in dire poverty and fear. The Philippines, for example where the Dictator/President shoots anyone homeless or on the streets at night. A whole poor neighbourhood was torched with hundreds of people burnt to death last week! Did anyone outside the country know or care? No! I heard through a friend with relatives there. Give me the Royal Family of England where their whole lives are devoted to service , with a few bad eggs like most families. Do people realise the incredible work done quietly and with no publicity by Princess Anne. She spends her life working amongst charities around the world and her children earn their living and do not depend on the Public Purse. They do not even have titles any more. Very few realise the tireless work and exhausting days personally spent by Prince Charles for the Duchy of Cornwall which employs thousands, builds houses and ensures the protection of the environment and the welfare of those living in a huge part of Britain. The anti Royalists are just ignorant of the benefits and work done which so rarely gets publicised and they only hear the often false gossip in the Media.
No I don't think outdated describes the Royal Family at all . Firstly there is the family , then there is the traditional " Royal Family , " I am in no way a royalist , never the less the family do an amazing job , and with the scrutiny they undergo their lives are not a bed of roses . I am sure those who try to pull down the Monarchy would not be capable of carrying out the role themselves. Live and let live I say, and who cares if there is an occasional scandal !
If you took away all the pomp and ceremony, they are just like any other family,they have disagreements,births,deaths, marriages,birthdays,divorce,they feel emotions happy,sad anger,jealousy,disappointment,anxiety etc, their human like everyone else, the only difference is their lives are documented in the media,right down to the body language facial expressions,according to the paparazzi they know exactly what's happening within the family, the paparazzi don't really have any idea,what the media doesn't know, they will make it up just to sell papers,magazines and gossip rag. The young members of the family are trying to genuinely help bridge the gap with the public, they are more natural interacting will the public. The older generation of the family need to retire to make way for a breath of fresh air.
Yes, I believe so.
Yes they should take a break, especially after the Jeffery Epstein incident , will be the monarchy biggest scandal since the late princess of Wales, Lady Dianna, this type of incident sexual abuses of unwanted consent against young woman, is yet to be made world wide news for the next 12 months or more, with harendious consequences, on not only TAX payers, but on the real truth to come out about other high profile stars and the connections, on their perverted meetings, in regards to child pedophiles.
Oh for Heavens Sake! What about all the scandals associated with American and other Presidents? Yes the scandal of Prince Andrew has hit the headlines as did Diana's behaviour but it involved 16 and 17 year old young women (above the age of consent in Britain and old enough to know better. They knew what they were doing and were hardly innocents. They enjoyed the glamour, excitement, the parties, presents, mixing with celebrities, and all paid for jet setting luxury lifestyle. It has taken them years to complain and can you see them looking terrified and unhappy in the photos from that time? If they had been 14 or younger it would be a very different story and I would be very sorry for them but having once been 17 years old myself I have no sympathy for their protests, wish to be seen as victims and grab for payouts now
And Tania I suppose you think that these young women didn't know exactly what they were doing , of course they did & would have been pocketing what they made out of it . Like a lot of other women who are continuing to bring down the same men who payed and paved the way for the lifestyle they chose 20/30 & even 40yrs ago . Now they see another opportunity for a second bite of the cherry . Oportunists then and now , unwanted consent rubbish what were they there for ?
I do not think they are over but I do think they need updating but I see that change coming with Will. I would like to see Charles mentor William as King. Charles should not be King. I think they are an important part of who England is I think even though there is scandals they are important.
Definitely not. Our Governor General is her representative here in Australia, but she does not interfere or make political decisions even in UK. Our Head of State is the Governor General or the State governors. They have no power unless of course the government be it Federal or State do something wrong and breach our constitution.
Definitely not.
I like Meaghan and Harry, but that is about it. But yes is the answer. They all live in the lap of luxury plus which is so far removed from ordinary citizens.
No. Nothing better to replace it!
Yes
Most definitely not outdated have to ask if yours is???
Mnoarchy needs to take another direction. Original to be the leader in wars is no longer a primary reason. Today the hierarchy needs to be sorted so that only the top 2 are protected to reign, As the list goes down the more reliant on monarchy finances gets less. Those staying in royal palaces pay rent according to their level and usage. Renew their role in commonwealth parliaments to keep westminsiter in vogue as it is more democratic for all
No I think with the younger royals these days makes the royals very up to date.
The British Royal Family is the equal to Americas' Hollywood, & any Governments from around the world, in that there is always a scandal to keep them on the front page & the media in a job. Where would Britain be without the Royal Family? Would the tourist still come to Britain? Don't forget the interest they create when there is a wedding / birth / death in the family. They are essential for the British Economy.
Nope. I don't think so
Think their continuity will depend on whether Charles becomes King. Feel if he does it will be the end of the reign. William could keep the Monarchy going and continue to bring in the dollars that Great Britain need from the tourism they help create, but Charles was part of the Annus Horribilis and there are many who have not only not forgotten but also not forgiven the way he treated the People's Princess, Diana. The Monarchy is one of the big drawcards to visit London and it has slowly reduced its call on the public purse by managing with its own income from its land ownership. But who knows how things will go after Queen Elizabeth dies.
So few outside Britain realise the incredible work Charles does day in and day out. he is not the looney loser so often shown in the Media. he is a very hands on landlord of a huge part of Britain where his tenants love him as he is always there, checking on their welfare, building houses, protecting the environment etc. The rents etc go towards Charles' income as well as this numerous charities. His whole life from birth has been one of constant service, education, learning to rule and media criticism. He is trying to pass his knowledge and experience onto Will who is still too young and Harry who has shown he is not really fit to rule, lovable as he is.
Not outdated
Yes, totally outdated themselves. Too much controversy amounts members of the family. The Queen needs to give back Crown Land to the First Nation's peoples of Australia under the condition that they do not sell the land for mining or to offshore companies.
The Royal Family do amazing, wonderful, selfless work for many charitable organisations, however I think they should be looked on as normal, everyday people.
Um yeah with tax payers money so really on tax payers behalf but they get the appraisal for it how is that even wonderful on their behalf??? pffft
Do you know how much each taxpayer contributes each year to the Royal family?? about 70 cents - Whoop de do, that's a huge drain - NOT!!.
No. The family gives the country some stability when compared to the ups and downs of the parliament.
I understand the fear of change here but isn't it a bit strange supporting one single family to live out an almost utter fantasy? Lining up in the streets to see these people conducting PR stunts to remain relevant in the minds of strangers? I don't care either way honestly, they seem like ok people I guess. It's just very weird to me. If people support the royals because they fear how corrupt our politicians are then that's very telling about our situation.
Absolutely not! The Queen is a wonderful ambassador for the United Kingdom. Neither Prince Andrew nor Prince Harry are likely to ascend to the Throne anyway. The Royal Family provide continuity in a way that a Republican system never can, and the senior members of the Royal Family are brought up knowing their destiny.
Only "blind Freddy" and Conservative dinosaurs can't see how irrelevant they are!!
We could say its outdated but I think they are more important than ever in a world of uncertainty. It doesn't matter who is elected, power corrupts. With the royal family they cant impose their personal views on us. They are born into the position and learn public service from the beginning. We have to remember they are human beings with all the flaws we all have. The countries with a monarchy like Denmark, Sweden etc, with the exception of countries like Saudi Arabia etc, are better off. The USA is going downhill fast. I don't want Australia to follow the path of the USA. Keep the monarchy. We will always know who we are dealing with!
Very well said and I could not agree more. We have a Government at present who seem to think and act like Dictators so just imagine if we were a Republic, we would have people like Morrison and Dutton as President and Vice President. They already act like workers don't deserve to be paid well. The Royal Family do not interfere with the running of our Country and like you mentioned, the other Countries who also have Royal Families are stable and safe Monarchies, with exception to Saudi Arabia. Keep the British Monarchy, with all their faults they are still better than the other Republics in the world.
I believe that she doesn’t actually do anything for us so yes
The conduct of the present lot of Royals are substandard, except for the Queen, and the younger Royals will be no different from the general population they have grown up with, deceived by the global warming lie, just a move of global wealth from the rich countries to the poorer ones, but apart from that, all remains the same.
Who would be our head of State- another corrupt politician who we pay far too much for!!! Both sides are pulling down the other. We spend far too much now on Governor General's (one for each state) I would like to see the younger ones take over not Charles & Camilla & one of them to come to Australia to be the one & only Governor General what do they do other than opening places I hear nothing about them & I am not interested. The Royals & others need to have to live off a normal wage. They have no-idea how difficult it can be when you get no help. I had a friend that was in a political party & he laughed when I told him what my son earnt annually - he said that he could earn 10 times as much!!!!
We only have one Governor General. The States have Governors. The Governor General is the Australian peoples representative to the Queen.
If you read history you will find that the Royal Family have been in worse favour in the past than they are now. They are people, not machines, so yes they 'stuff up' just as everyone else does. What alternative do people who criticise the Royal Family have in mind? Socialism with a corrupt 'president' who becomes a dictator? A republic with a corrupt 'head of state' who becomes a dictator? Name me one leader in any country who is potentially seen as an alternative to a monarch who is squeaky clean, doesn't get involved in financial corruption, sexual scandal or political treachery. You can't because they all misbehave in some way. Putin, Trump, Mussolini, Hitler, the Chinese leaders, that North Korean idiot ... IMO all far worse options than the Royal Family. Don't forget that the Royal Family prop up the UK economy. Take them away, throw in Brexit and the UK will be in a depression for a long long time.
Maybe, but certainly better than being a banana republic. At least this way we have something to help guide us. Left to politicians we would be totally lost.
Well past their use by date & should not be the head of Australia, we should be independent
With a dictator President?? I think not.
No
I also think Andrew should admit to the shame he has bought to the family he can't loose his HRH but he should be exciled from the family like his uncle David
Bring in the young Royals Make William King have the Queen step down older royals step back and let the young ones take the reigns
Ha Ha ! I like the pun (or is it just a typo?) - either way, it won't happen directly. HM won't step down, because she has promised to continue to serve the Commonwealth, and the only way that William can then take over is with Charles abdicating or dying (or a possible majority vote by the whole Commonwealth countries). These scenarios are less likely than the current order.
Definitely outdated... no best before date there
HRH Archaic, and out of touch
Prince Andrew acts like he is superior to the law of his kingdom. I find the Royal lol family embarrassing
Well and truly a thing of the past
yes they are way past there use by date
NO. Think of the alternative - a corrupt has been politicisation - no thank you.
Kdbdu
How many corrupt governments are there in the world? At least having a queen who is non-political, there is some balance to presidents etc. who start exercising powers in their own interests (Trump, Putin, Xi, and quite a few others now and in the past). While there are people who just can't stand the thought of royalty, the queen has pledged her service to the Commonwealth of Nations (note that is plural) since her crowning - how many can say they have honoured that sort of commitment since? We have the Westminster system of government that is the envy of many countries, because we are a part of a larger group of nations with a stabilising head of state. Also, in other parts of the world, have you noticed that some of the most stable and caring countries also have their own kings and queens (ie Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands etc.). Of course we should keep what we have, the alternative isn't really a better option.
At last, someone who knows what they are talking about.
The BRF are not perfect but then what family is? The Queen has done an amazing job in her many years on the throne and as Head of State of a large number of Commonwealth countries. None of her PMs except Blair have tried to guess what she really thinks about therm and their policies. She is the best argument we have for NOT accepting the mindless chatter to move to a republic - just think: we could have our own version of the Trump circus! Prince Charles plans to scale back the extended family involvement. That policy will get rid of Andrew, Fergie and their infernal circus! Anne and Harry made the right decisions not to accept titles for their children who are doing fine without them,
The very concept of royalty makes me cringe. The monarchy became outdated wen the king stopped leading his people into battle and started sending them in to fight for him. The king was king because he was the fittest person for the job. You look at these modern day royals, parading around in the uniforms and medals that they have not earned and it is just a slap in the face for the brave servicemen who actually perform the duties. I very rarely agree with the french or russians, but they sure new how to treat their royal families
If the royals wearing medals have done active service why aren't they entitled to wear their medals? I'm guessing you haven't done any active service so don't know the first thing about earning or wearing medals.
I'm personally not into the Royal family since Diana died. But they make mistakes like we all do, and that just proves there normal human beings just like us.
It should be but it’s still very popular among people
I am a royalist and will continue to be. The recent criticism shows that the Royals are as human as the rest of us. I can't imagine a world without them given their steeped traditions, pomp and ceremonies that belong to them only. This was so evident when Princess Diana was lost to us and the outpouring of sadness throughout the world was overwhelming. Its not just the commonwealth countries who love the Monarchy but other countries too. The Royals have their place in this world just like us. They will continue to be human and make mistakes, but they are loved by millions, so let them live in peace and do what they do best by having the presence by which they were born to.
I'm not as much of a fan of the British Royal family as I used to be - thanks to Meghan, but I don't believe they are outdated. Like most families they have their troubles - but sometimes I don't understand why there is so much bickering between them all, especially when they wear glamorous clothes live in big palaces while some people in the real world struggle from pay check to pay check, or worse are homeless. I would like to see the younger Royals do more hands-on work like work with a charity 2 days a week or something rather than attend fancy dinners or visiting various charities they support for a few hours making small talk. There is also the question on how much longer the British taxpayers can afford them.
I have grown up with the royals, so they have their place for me. They have thousands of years of history in the United kingdom, but they do not rule the UK the government does that. They have certain duties to perform and a ceremonial role to play within the UK laws. It may seem outdated to some, but a enduring symbol of hope and stability for the British people.
I have never been a Loyal Royal Fan but I am very polite with other countries Royals though
Most relevant in a free society with democratic values.
No. They still have a role to play in our society.
Yes outdated. Pomp and ceremony is traditionally nice but I think it is very 'hasbeen' in these modern times. They are human after all, they live and learn like the rest of us. I don't think it is fair that the royals , born with a silver spoon in their mouths, are automatically entitled to such wealth, while there are people who have nothing and who are struggling just to exist.
VERY outdated. What do they do anyway? The Government rules England not the royals. And they cost the taxpayers mega heaps. Surely this money could be spent on education and health. They could live off their own fortune.
How much does the royal family cost the British taxpayer? Can you put a figure on it? Around 70 pence per taxpayer per year doesn't sound like an exhorbitant amount to me. Nor does 70 pence sound like mega heaps.
Shit
Yes, the money spent maintaining royal properties etc for personal use is a waste, I get that people love their royals but wouldnt the British people be better off not spending tax dollars on the royal family, using the palace as a tourist destination instead of a private residence etc, then there is the huge amounts of money individual countries spend on the royal family when they visit. Times need to move forward with the people not stay in the past, history means nothing when the future is going down the toilet.
Buckinham Palace is a Tourist Attraction and you can do tours of it and other palaces although of course not the private rooms which is fair enough.
Yes outdated, we will never progress to an equal society as long as we cling to kings and queens way of thinking. You only have to look at the history and find out how they got where they are, it is disgusting. There is so much poverty in England, so many struggling and yet they live so richly on taxpayers money. Yes they do charity work, yes they bring in the dollars for tourism, but at the same time they spend way more money on their way of life and to protect them. We need to hear more about the good things Prince Charles is doing and less of the drama caused by the media on the others in the royal family. Hopefully the future generations will live more modestly and give more of their wealth to helping the poor.
You cannot keep going back in history and blaming each subsequent generation for their mistakes. Times have changed. Yes they are privileged but the earn their dollars and who would want to live the the fish bowl they do. They employ so many which I think is over looked. Without this employment the people would be worse off. A lot of the bad press has to stop. Every family has problems but to have them splashed all over media is a disgrace and then you get the trolls. They are raising money for charity, building and repairing old villages, working in a ecological way with farmers etc. I don't think enough of the positives are written or spoken about but then everyone would rather throw mud wouldn't they
What would you replace it with? So-called presidents live it up or rip the country off and the poor are no better off.
I like them. And I like the history of many generations of this family. Keep them going forever.
I think everyone should look at the tourist dollars they bring into the country, the good they do in various areas which far outweighs the cost to the public purse. I do think along the lines it should be trimmed down a bit and they do live privileged lives but the press whether tabloid or magazines or even on line now is absolutely vicious in their portrayal of this family. They seem to pick on one or two and then hound them with half truths, innuendo etc. For all intents and purpose we in Australia rule our own land. I am not a Monarchist but I do love the pomp and ceremony and the history of this family and those before. They are a bit removed from normal people but then again most people in this sphere are but I do think they at least try and do speak to people in all walks of life. I think if you read up on Prince Charles work you will be surprised and he is passing it on to his son the future king.
Yes
If we have a choice between the USA Presidential Government and the UK Royal family then it is going to be the UK Royal Family. Slimmed down and modernised. Never ever want to have a President elected by the people. Shocking to think of this happening in Australia
I like the monachy but think it needs to be slimmed down. I would be sad if Australia became a republic as I like the Westminster system of government
All Monarchies, including the British one, under which still are Australia, Canada & NZ, are certainly out of place in the 21st century, where the democracy in a Republic settings are the optimum modes of operation in the vast majority of the countries on our planet today. The citizens in any country,who work hard & all have the right of say about the use of their taxes as well as have the ownership of all facilities,made for their use & for those,who are disabled, etc unable to work full time, which are paid with their taxes, thus the existence of a group of people, who has extra privileges, does less work, pays NO taxes, but receives high financial benefits,paid by the rest of the citizens' taxes. The only reason for that abnormal & totally unbalanced situation, is given as due to the worn out, ancient & non-egalitarian habit of that specific group's ancestors status. This parasitic existence of the present royal families in the world is quite unfair,inappropriate & completely unacceptable to the human beings,who are living at this age & time. Furthermore, this obvious inequality among people, creates deep distress, unhappiness, resentment & even anger in most countries' citizens, that constitute a serious Public Health hazard, that I've personally observed & recorded during several research projects in both Northern & Southern Hemispheres of the Globe, which I've undertaken for the past 35 years .
So, citizens all have the right of say about the use of their taxes! Do you put a note with your tax return saying you want the money spent on this and not that? What planet did you just arrive from? The government gets the money and decide where it goes - or do you think you REALLY can tell them what to spend it on? Also, if you check the records from years ago, the queen agreed that senior royals DO pay taxes on relevent earnings. I am getting sick of people coming up with stupid statements WITHOUT checking the facts first. Maybe you might like to try learning first then giving an opinion.
Well said, I agree. We need true equality, as long as we have the rich we will have the poor, why can't everyone live a good life? Because the rich want to stay rich.
Outdated, overrated, pompas, sexist, decietful
O.K, now we know what you think of Trump. How about the question at hand.
It's not for us to say. If the British want to keep them so be it. However the idea of a country having a foreign head of state is in my opinion ridiculous, so I really think we should wave them goodbye. The whole red herring argument brought up last time about who the replacement should be, how elected etc., was unnecessary. If we need a head of state at all, & I don't think we do, it can be someone nominated, say, by each state government & the final selection made by a joint sitting of both federal Houses.
NO I don't think they are outdated, but I do however think it is time for the media to give them a break. So much negative press about one member of the family, yes he may have made a mistake but why does the press keep on about it. It makes people shy away from the monarchy because of it. I also think the press are treating Meagan unfairly, they have not left that lady alone since her engagement to Harry was announced and that sister of hers is only saying what she is saying to get money from press, she is nasty and jealous of Meagan. Stop giving her family air and press time and then maybe Meagan will get a fair go. Remember what the Press done to Dianna well they are doing exactly the same thing to Meagan.
Out dated, over rated, over paid & way over publicised!!
Not interested in them either way.
no - they are human just like the rest of us and everybody makes mistakes
the need for this group to survive allows for respect to our elders to be held in high importance by many people of different age brackets
I think they are doing some great work inspiring people, supporting people and acknowledging people in our world and community. This is never outdated.
An overrated and inbred family who rule because of who their parents were, not for their relevance in today's society. The Queen is a billionaire yet leeches off the British population wherever she and her family goes. While 100 years ago they may have been relevant they are now no more than a tourist attraction and a reminder of another age.
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