Plant based diets are all the rage at the moment. People choose to give up
meat and animal products for a number of reasons, environmental reasons, animal
rights and for health. LiveTribers, have you ever considered giving up meat? Or
have you already adopted a vegetarian/vegan diet?
Posted by on 30 Jul 2019
Puleese! I am so sick of this 'plant based diet would save the planet'
business!! A cow gives out approximately 70 kg of greenhouse gasses in its
LIFETIME. ONE return flight to China - 334,800 kg of greenhouse gasses. Can you
image how much damage a rocket would do? And yet we seem to celebrate when a
rocket is sent into space. The stupidest thing I see - people travelling in
planes to go to a Climate Change Protest!! Apart from anything else, a plant
based diet doesn't give you all the vitamins and minerals you need for a really
healthy life. Yes, increase your fruit and veges, but please don't ask me to
give up my steak! Also, Jennifer, I am not sure why you mention wheat being bad
for you - yes it is but surely that is plant based??
Fight climate change with diet change.
By eating less meat and more fruit and vegetables, the world could prevent
several million deaths per year by 2050, cut planet-warming emissions
substantially, and save billions of dollars annually in healthcare costs and
If you haven't tried plant based whole foods, not processed how would you know
if you would like to give up meat...... your digestion certainly does. Any of
those meat eaters have skin allergies or poor health? ever wonder why consider
how much dairy eggs and wheat you are eating. got to love real living food.
Cos i know what i like the taste of and mass veges aint it.
Fried chicken, beef burgers, crispy chicken skin, YUM
Salads, fake meat, seeds, nuts, tofu and beans. Boring, odd textures i dont like
and way to hard and time consuming to make palatable for my liking.
I mean who eats cauliflower with no cheese, thats criminal
Allergic to fish but no biggie and overall my health is good, im that annoying
one who does nothing yet is never sick and is slim. Even as a kid i faked sick
days cos i got so few, like for a few years i had none.
Who told you humans are carnivores? No scientist would dare! You need to check
Milton Mills & his The Comparative Anatomy of Eating. I'll give you a tiny, tiny
chunk of the 3100 words+ Peer-Reviewed study... easily digestible:
Carnivores have a short intestinal tract, about 3 times its body length; humans
& herbivores have it about 12 times their body length. Carnivores have a smooth
& straight intestinal design, intended for fast passage & serves only to absorb
water & salt, whilst humans & herbivores it is convoluted, folded back upon
itself multiple times & is highly specialized in vitamin production +
absorption, electrolytes, fermentation, etc. Where do both humans & herbivores
get both sodium & vitamin C from? From eating & digesting plants, whereas
carnivores all produce these internally (not from food). Humans & herbivores
typically sip / drink water by suction, while carnivores lap water with their
tongues. Cooling the body of carnivores is done by panting, with the tongue
extended; herbivores & humans both perspire, which also cleanses their bodies.
Carnivores issue huge amounts of very strong pH stomach acids, capable of
dissolving bones; herbivores & humans have much weaker stomach acids which are
also smaller in quantity for the same amount of food. Mouth to head size ratio
is very large in carnivores, but much smaller in both herbivores & humans. All
food is extensively chewed by both herbivores & humans, whilst carnivores prefer
to swallow their food whole. Jaw action is limited to up & down motion in
carnivores, whilst herbivores & humans have very versatile structure for all
types of chewing. Carnivores are typically fast with claws & fangs designed for
hunting whilst humans & carnivores have no such natural hunting ability.
Carnivores have few teeth, but they are long, serrated & sharp from birth,
whilst humans & herbivores both have many teeth which are small & smooth. The
saliva of Carnivores, unlike both humans & herbivores, has no ptyalin to
In every regard, humans are closer to herbivores & have Zero resemblance to
Yes I would give up meat and I have changed my diet with having meat maybe once
every 2 or 3 months, but not because I am vegetarian but because I just don't
enjoy the taste anymore, plus I had a sausage one day and it had something in it
that wasn't meat, so that put me off of all meat now.
I gave up meat years ago, was vegetarian for years and have been vegan for many
years, now I eat a low fat wholefood plant based diet, which is still vegan but
I include raw honey for health benefits and I avoid packaged process foods which
are not real food and lack in nutrition.
Have you tried Beyond Meat from Coles or Foodland? There's no difference between
that & animal flesh. Things have come a long way in recent times. They also have
lab grown meat, cultured from a tiny scraping. No difference & many different
animal flavours are covered. Yes, they're expensive, but short-dated, meaning
one can easily get one for half price or less just prior to the Best Before
If you read God's Word, the Bible, in fact we were created to eat plant food and
never animals. Our Creator knows what is best for us. Flesh food was only
introduced after the global flood due to the ground being so sodden with water
nothing would grow for a long time. It was meant to be an emergency food only
but men developed a taste for flesh and it has stayed with us since then,
unfortunately - which is further confirmed by most comments of people here which
claim they love the taste and that's why they eat it. If you knew the truth
about the disease and dangers to our health that comes from meat, you wouldn't
touch it again - or at least, gradually remove it from your diet. The vegan
diet is so clean for our bodies and in cooking (no greasy fat) and will improve
your health like I can't tell you! I suffered for years with bladder
infections. When I stopped eating flesh food they went away and didn't come
back. If I eat flesh food now I can even smell it in my perspiration! It's a
gradual thing but you will be grateful when you see the benefits to your health.
Well then, perhaps the well-documented experiences of saints, prophets &
disciples for thousands of years subsisting purely on either a vegetarian or
vegan diet for most, if not all of their lives may have a bearing on your diet?
Now that's what I'd call evolution worth a damn!
Not completely I don't eat as much as I used to because it's too dear but I
still need the occasional red meat for health reasons but
I prefer to eat foods in moderation these days equally balancing between meat
fish fruit & vegetables
You do not need meat for health reasons unless you want it to contribute to
disease. Plant based has proven to be healthier and you can get all your
nutrients from plants if you know what you are doing that is eat real food not
YES! Did so about six years ago and never felt better because I make sure I now
how to balance my food. Meat is expensive and so I save money which I can use
to buy organic produce which is free of sickness-making chemicals PLUS I am not
complicit in the cruel treatment and killing of many innocent animals PLUS not
eating animals saves on water usage and poisonous emissions. Best decision
anyone can make.
Due to financial reasons five years ago I cut back on meat. Things have eased
back a bit so when I go to dinner I invariably have steak or lamb and truly
enjoy it. Once a week I buy a hot chicken at the supermarket and buy tinned fish
so am covered for protein.
Three times, at various venues, I have tried “mock meat” and say never
again. The taste was both unpalatable and nothing like meat.
For me its a taste thing, but have eaten Vegi only meals and I have no problem
with eating Veges only. I won't Eat Steak anymore unless it was placed in fron
of me ... (When in Rome etc) ... When people eat lots of Pork, I will eat just a
little, but give me Lamb and I'm into it Big Time ... Chicken? Yeah but not too
much, Fish? I know its good for you, but taste wise, it doesnt catch my Taste
Buds. On the Vege Menu, I'll quite happily go for the usual Veges including
Kale, and Beetroot and some of the Philippino Natural Plants, but no all ....
I could make it a Philosophy thing, but Nah .... I won't go there
Scripturally ... some of the foods are an Abomination for very good reasons, but
guess what ... I like the occassional Kina, Pipis, Mussels and Paua .... which
probably puts me in the catagory of the disobedient ... However, there is a
scripture that says .... Whether therefore you eat, or drink, or whatsoever you
do, do all to the glory of God. ... Which Begs the question .... Is it giving
Glory to God. For those who believe .....
Never. Over tens of thousands of generations the human body evolved to need a
diverse diet and this includes meat. Meat from as many different species as
possible. To withdraw meat from a diet places that person at risk of both short
and long term adverse health effects.
Considering meat has no fiber and lacks in nutrients and is high in calories and
fats it is actually not an important part of a nutritious diet, it has already
been proven that plant based diets will give you the most chance of being cancer
and chronic disease free.Doctors do not study nutrition and rarely even talk
about diet, they just give you pills.
Gave up meat decades ago - best thing I ever did in regard to health as it began
to improve immediately. Much disease in meat today caused by veterinary
antibiotics/other drugs, chemicals and even feeding cows the crushed up flesh of
other cows (which caused Mad Cows' Disease). Meat industry isn't admitting to
this because of the millions of $$$ they will lose - but it's simply the truth.
Cancer is now recognised by medical science findings as being directly connected
to consuming meat from dead animals, especially bowel cancer. Inspectors at
slaughter-yards of course can't see cancer cells or small tumours hidden in the
animals' flesh, and that gets transferred direct to ours. You can get all you
need from plant food for nutrition - it's just a matter of getting educated
correctly. Vit B can be obtained from yeast, or yeast flakes from health
stores, or simply buy a supplement. Same with iron if needed. Highly recommend
Living Valley Springs health clinic, NSW, for nutritional advice.
Finally someone here on the same page as me, meat eaters just live in denial
despite all the scientific research that has been done. I used to eat yeast
flakes but did some more research and now get everything from plants, iron is
available from plants, I only take D in winter and B12 drops because everyone
even meat eaters may be missing it in their diets due to our "clean" living and
not getting the bacteria from the soil, but you can get it from home grown
veggies if you only wash them lightly.
Most of my family is vegan and I learnt to cook vegan food the food is delicious
I love cooking it and have learnt so much along the way. Now I can make cheese ,
yogurt, mayo and even sausages! and burguers the list is endless and I enjoy it
Think how much smarter you'd be if you knew the difference between farts and
burps. It is the ruminant burp that releases the methane, not the flatulence.
Higher levels of plant matter in the human colon contributes to vegetarians and
vegans producing more CH3 than carnivore humans.
Giving up animal products is a thing of the future every one will have to give
up meat or animal products! the reason why? it wont be sustainable at all! of
course there always be meat some where but it would be very expensive to have I
guess only the rich would be able to afford it! the rest would be vegan or
vegetarian even if not by choice.but necesity.
I don't think I would give up meat, BUT I am very particular about where the
meat I buy comes from, and how the animals are raised. For example, free range,
grass fed beef etc.
We have a responsibility towards animals to ensure they are treated well. We
should be ready to pay more for meat that is ethically raised.
I am lacto vegetarian all my life and my family too. Some people think that how
the vegetarian/vegan people can stay healthy or even survive without the animal
products but its totally WRONG thinking. Nature have given us plenty of plants
to consume in order to stay healthy and mindful, there is absolutely no need of
But again its individual's own choice to be vegetarian or non-vegetarian
irrelevant to any health needs or requirements. Meat eaters are more healthy- is
just a misconception or an excuse to eat meat for the sake of mere taste.
I think 60% of people will feel guilty once they saw how the animals are
produced and killed by butchers in order to fulfil their supplies.
The Internet was created for people to stay informed, learn new things and share
their views. But unfortunately it has enabled all of the loonies out there to
have a platform to push their radical views.
Whilst I don't condone animal cruelty I understand that evolution has made us
the dominant lifeforms on this planet and it has given us the intelligence to
let us maintain our health. One of the ways we do this is by consuming a protein
based diet and we have modified plants and animals through artificial selection
to give us those foods.
We have reared cattle through the millenniums and improved their yield by
artificial selection to feed the human population and sustain our protein diet.
Protein keeps us healthy and we use that health to reproduce and ensure the next
generation is just as healthy. If we make radical changes to our diets by not
consuming the same amount of animal protein in the future we are condemning
future generations to a less healthy future as the peasants of past centuries
had which shortened their lifespan.
Is this what we want for our legacy???
What a load of rot, you are on the wrong planet, the human race is not going to
survive UNLESS we make RADICAL changes and fast. Peasants of the past centuries
with shortened life spans was due to many other factors, nothing to do with lack
of animal protein, more like they ate too much of it.
No. I really enjoy my meat, although it has become very expensive. It is also
good for your health. I respect people's right to choose not to eat meat, but
they should do it without trying to attract everyone's attention. I don't make
a fuss about eating meat and they don't need to make a fuss about being
vegetarian or vegan.
Aussie5, What about all the growth hormones they put in cattle, pigs, etc and
antibiotics? I love meat too even though I cannot afford nice lamb chops like I
used to. Look into how the poor cattle and pigs are killed, it's quite scary.
No I wouldn't give up meat. Meat is part of my iron intake. Meat of all kinds
has been part of my diet for most of my life and the age old meat and 3 vegies
has been the staple. Although my consumption has reduced as I have aged it is
part of my diet.
And in my years on this planet I have never seen a healthy looking vegetarian,
and it also seems to affect there brains, as they always want to abuse you for
eating meat which is what our ancestors did, mainly raw.
How far back would you care to go? Two independent studies recently completed in
India on the matter prove we ate zero animal products for most of our time on
this planet. In those times we were powerful, enlightened, glorious & achieved
many epic feats of lasting greatness using technology far beyond what we have
now. What were we when we ate meat? A bunch of cavemen who killed animals, trees
& each other, which we loved doing so much we smashed it into a creed & called
it imperialism, which earned the few at the top lots of money which justified
the means & so we are still entrapped by this paradigm today.
Meat taste great and there is a a nutritional value in eating it.. vegetarian /
vegan's are to be admired for what they do but some of them take it too far..
children specifically need the nutrients that red and white meat provide for
growing bodies - i've platformed a vegetarian diet before and had great result
on it.. but as a mainstream life choice i couldn't bring myself to eat strictly
plant based food!
My son grew up vegan and is now a healthy, intelligent and vibrant teenager who
has never even visited a doctor, he never gets sick either , not even a sniffle,
so if done correctly with lots of wholefood plant food you can thrive.
If God didn't want us to eat meat he wouldn't have made animals of it.
Being a vegetarian seems to seriously damage their brains. They trespass on
farmers land, destroy fences, release animals into areas where they can't fend
for themselves and appear to be on the dole as they seem to find plenty of time
to interfere with anyone who doesn't agree with their points of view.