Regulation would be returned to states where lawmakers in south and Midwest have enacted bans in anticipation of court’s decision. More than half of US states will outlaw abortion immediately or as soon as practicable, if a leaked draft decision from five supreme court justices remains substantially unchanged. What are your thoughts LiveTribers? Will it be chaos if 26 states in the US ban abortion if Supreme Court ruling stands?
Posted by on 24 May 2022
Make abortion illegal in Australia. It use to be and the do--goodies have caused this. Women's liberation. It's not too late!
I had a young relative that had a abortion when about 18,her partner put her up to it. She was just a confused teen! As a result of the abortion she could not have any kids. So she paid a big price for her mistake and I knew she liked kids. Sad! But we live in a society that doesn't really appreciate morals any more. It's good that this has happened in the USA,unlike Australia,that has given too many rights to careless women. It's painful for babies to get aborted.. esp the older the age of the unborn. It was proven over 20 years ago by scans. It's very inhuman!
Every time people have consentual sex they have to accept the risk of pregnancy. If a pregnacy is the result then with other events in life, people have to deal with the results.
Simple answer: Yes, yes and yes! The ruling will not stand long term
It is a woman's right to choose what she wants with her body
What about the rights of the unborn and the father's Day?
I'm mean father's rights, not day. Woops, lol
Yes it would be devastating for many and also chaos. For rape victims or where it is life threatening to the mother and possibly also baby, not to abort, then it means either a very bad outcome if it cannot go ahead, or major dislocation in having to travel to another state, which would be devastating for the poor or disabled. It would also cause back yard abortion to be reinstated, with all the associated health and disaster connotations of that, as well as legal issues for those in a liturgous country.
I think it def would be chaos if a womans choice to safely end a pregnancy was taken away. The deaths from backyard abortionists would skyrocket. :(
I am a pro life myself. I stand with total ban of abortion. However, we must not be blind to pregnancy with complications. If for instance there is a substantial evidence that the safety of the carrier is at risk, then the pregnant should be taken out.
Good old U.S.A., they just keep finding ways of digging themselves a deeper hole that will be difficult to climb out from. They're rapidly taking backward steps compared to where we should be as a global community of the 21st century. The possibility of this law being passed is a prime example.
You say it's backwards, but where is your lack of compassion for the unborn? The women chooses to take the risk and we have many ways to prevent a pregnancy now. They really have no more excuses. You need to get a reality check as we live in a more advanced age. Morals still matter to some of us.
Now that the law has been passed, what's next on the agenda for law changing in the good ol USA I wonder? More chaos and the hole gets deeper, and then it flows on to the rest of the western world.
It will absolutely be chaos
Isn't there already chaos in the USA? And its getting worse, they can't control the guns on the streets, they want to stop abortions, want to stop people saying the Gay, and way more ridiculous things. The USA is causing a lot of its own problems and unfortunately, they spread to other countries, ours included. I think that the so called good "ol USA is headed for a nasty civil war in their own country...if it hasn't already started.
I believe in legal abortion for any female who wants one for whatever reason.
it shows how backwards the world is going. choice over your own body is taken away by the leaders in control once again. i think if you want a medical procedure done, you should be able to choose it. the only outcome we should be concerned with, is that the abortion is in the best interest of the woman and future child. if its not legal, women and men will find other dangerous methods. i think society moved on and accepted this as, all though disturbing, an appropriate treatment when a child is not appropriate. im sure american's will protest, but if the leaders listen is another thing. id like to know who in any country makes these laws, as its not the people, or a reflection of society.
Your comments do not make sense! You have the choice to use protection when you do the deed. If you aren't bright enough to use protection then maybe you should not do the deed. You have removed your rights when you don't take responsibility for your own body. If you are backwards then you don't take responsibility. We have the means to prevent pregnancy. It costs a lot to have abortions. How cruel it is to murder half termed babies this way. It's obvious by the results that many Americans still do not agree with abortion. It's the public who will have the final say on this as they influence the leaders of the day. It was the best decision in decades. And the most right one.
FOR ABORTION THE FINAL DECISION MUST BE LEFT UP TO THE PERSON OR PERSONS INVOLVED,HOW CAN A BUNCH OF SENATORS SIT ROUND AND VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON SUCH A DECISIONS,POLITICS SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED WITH SUCH A PERSONAL DECISION
The public are the ones who influence the politicians. So it wasn't just the leaders. Women should not have a right to abort or murder their unborn. Get over it!
Yes I think so you must give individuals the right to make their own decision.
Yes. Right or wrong it's still a woman's choice.
Not in America it isn't.
No one has the right to tell another person how they can or can't use their body. Abortion is a right not a luxury.
Illegal abortion laws has been around for a longtime. America has gone back to the past and that's a great thing. Get use to it as it's the LAW!
The right for a woman to make her own choices for her own body and mind were fought a long time ago and now some selfish idiots have pushed their biased opinions to change what was legalised and justified many years ago.
Yes it would be chaos. it is the womans right to choose and everybody's circumstances are different.
In most cases pregnancy can be avoided. In some cases like rape they should be give an option. But I wonder in conceptual intercourse why dose the father not get an option if he wants the child.
I understand this is a difficult and sensitive topic. All women should be supported through pregnancy and their lives. Women should receive counselling in this situation. Some women would love to have a child but can't. The child should be able to born and can be adopted or fostered into a loving and stable family. It is not fair for a woman to have to raise a child when they are very young and have no or little family support. Also it would be very difficult for a woman who has fallen pregnant because of rape or incest, to then have to take care of the child. It would be very hard emotionally. Here is Victoria, you can have an abortion at any time of the pregnancy (even up to a few days before the child is born) for any reason. You just need 2 doctors to agree and sign that you need an abortion.
That's Victoria for you! Adoption is most certainly better than cruel abortion. If only those people advocating for abortion knew how painful it was for the unborn. I do wonder if they would change their archaic points of view then?
Oh lordy .
Abortion should be left up to the individual and not the do-gooders/government. If I was raped and fell pregnant I should not have to be sentenced to a life-time of reminder of said rape. Yes the child is not to blame but the child's presence would be a constant reminder of a horrid act
Yes I do believe it will be chaos.
Have a look at what Ceausescu's regressive abortion laws did to Romania. They caused unspeakable suffering that is still evident today among it's victims. The mothers and children continue to experience endless misery. Chaos is eminent in the U.S.
I think there might be 'chaos' if women try to do backyard abortions, or when they have medical issues with the pregnancy, miscarriage etc and require abortion.
It is crazy that this is even a discussion in a modern country. The republican party - full of old white men who like to go on about so called 'freedom' - are severely underestimating the backlash they will receive.
The people in America voted for them so who are we to say what happens in their country. We in Australia should be ashamed to have many unwanted pregnancies in this day and age. The problem lies with those people and not the people governing.
I don't think this measure will reach decision stage. Still hope that even the 4 rapid presumed supporters will realise that if they do confirm this judgement, they will be starting Civil War V2.
Another step to control women. Disgraceful and archaic men and even some women who think they have the right to rule a womans life. This if passed will take women back 100 years and to back street illegal abbortionists killing them or damaging them to a point their lives are for ever changed. Perhaps something should be bought in for males when they turn of a age to procreate that they are controlled so women no longer have to deal with their by products expecially if bought about by rape, incest, etc. or the fact that the male will not take any responsibility ever. Religion is often bought into these issues whether you believe it or not you have to abide by anothers beliefs and not your own. Your body, you will, your decision, your life.
So why blame everyone else except the women? You blame men and religion, but not the women? Didn't they get sex education,or Maybe they aren't too bright to use protection? Sorry, but your comments are very sexist and have feminist ideology.
This can only be a backwards step which will lead to chaos amongst women as they have the right to their own bodies taken away from them by legislation.
Abortion is such a difficult topic so many people feel passionate about. It should be left for the people directly affected to decide without being forced by a third party to take action based on what they want. After all those people have to live with the decision not those trying to control them.
Chaos ??, Maybe, But are these states actually "looking out" for the rights of these unborn babies ??
Many women will either go to another state that still allows abortion in their jurisdiction if they can afford it and that will cause chaos. Those who cannot afford it will go to a 'backyard practitioner' just like used to happen in the days prior to abortion being made legal. This will cause mire than chaos, it could cause the death of the woman.
Maybe people won’t be happy about it
I agree with previous posts, that there is a big danger of backyard abortions increasing if there is a ban. I am sure most girls/women who have abortions don't make the decision easily and are often in desperate situations. Far better to encourage them to consider adoption and help them. I know it's terrible to think of babies being aborted but it's also very sad to think of desperate young women dying after a bad backyard abortion :(
Can we stop the talk about the women's rights for a change and address the fact that there are two individuals in the case. the unborn being defencless appear to be precluded from their rights
Unfortunately the selfish ones don't think that the unborn has any rights. How do these people think that they got to be born? It's all about individuals rights today, no matter who else gets hurt. Many end up regretting their terminations eventually. So they are left with a bad memory. And that is sad, but at least they have acknowledged it, unlike some women.
I think if the father is involved it probably would not be an issue as he would stick by the mother. Going back years ago when abortion was illegal how many women died or were permanently damaged due to backyard abbortionists. Mostly the men did not even pay for it they just walked away. Parents put their daughters into homes for unmarried mothers where they were treated dreadfully and many of the children died as did the mothers or the babies were sold to wealthy foreigners aka in many cases Americans. Religion was spouted left right and centre but there was not a kind word given by these so called righteous people who just abused and ridiculed the poor girls and often did not even help them with the childbirth but let them suffer "as this was God's will". It is a contentious issue but this is not a perfect world and sometimes difficult decisions have to be made by the girl/woman as to how she wants to proceed. I think this is the only person who should be considered. She will have the opportunity to decide if she wants to continue with the pregnancy and keep or adopt the baby out or have an abortion. Any decision would be difficult and more often than not they never have support from anyone. Fine for people to stand on their soap boxes and demand they do what they think is right but living in the actual situation is a different thing all together. I thankfully have never been in this situation so I do not know what my decision would be but if I was 16-18 again and in the time I was raised I would not have had the choice of a safe abortion. I probably would not have the choice of marriage either. I thankfully think my parents though would not ostracise me but do think I would be blamed. The men never get blamed have you noticed. They seem to get a free pass.
Agreed. This is definitely a situation of competing rights, including those of the father as well. That's what makes this issue so difficult/complex.
With the majority of the population in favour of the status quo I can only see unrest resulting from a change to what has been leaked. Personally I dont think male hve any right to decide on matters of proponging or ending female pregnancy.
Where is the proof of the majority? Each state has their differences over abortion. It's not uniform across the states. Many Americans had their say and they listened.
I'm not sure of it will cause chaos but imagine there will be a lot of grief, pain, botched backyard abortions and deaths. American values are confusing. They kill thousands of their countrymen through shootings, prescription medication issues, illegal drugs and car crashes but want to interfere in women's rights to determine what happens to their own bodies.
Yes there could be chaos alright, if the lawmakers of states enact bans on abortion laws if it decided to the contrary of the expectation of those states by the courts There will be chaos from people especially for the bans if imposed by those states. Biblically it is wrong to abort a child at any stage, as it is considered like killing a child as it were alive. This is why I too think, it is going against what God intended for this earth. This subject matter is very controversial and people who want to abort their children at any stage think as if it is their right to do so. However I think it is ethically and morally wrong to abort a child. If there is going to be so much opposition from people, the courts themselves may wish to reverse their controversial move to pass abortion.
Yes, people of your background tend to be more considerate of laws, including moral and The religious ones. Unlike many western people who are shameless, unthinking and uncaring people. They only think of what's best for their selves. I'm so ashamed sometimes to be Australian.
Your comments are based on your religious views and I respect those. However, many people do not have religious leanings and this does not come into the equation. It is never great to have to abort a child and most women struggle with the decision but there are so many situations when it is necessary. Rape, incest, health, financial, etc. Convenience though should never be one of the conditions to do so. Years ago young women who found themselves pregnant were often sent to religious organisations and treated cruelly with their child taken from them immediately it was born even if the woman/girl wanted to keep it. Many of the children also died due to the lack of care of the mother and thereafter the child. Many children were sold (see the Irish story on this but this is just once instance).
Women should be in control of what happens to their bodies.
Either way this will cause more mass shootings of innocent people.
It's not going to stop it, just because you ban it it doesn't go away it just becomes more dangerous and expensive and mainly affects the poorer people. American idiots think that banning something stops it, nothing could be further from the truth.
I believe there will be chaos, this is not fair on women, especially those who have become pregnant as a result of rape. I can see women going to other states for an abortion out of desperation. Women should be in control of what happens to their bodies.
Naahhh......no chaos.....the silly Yanks will sort it out with mass shootings or another Civil War. Greatest Democracy in the world?!!?? What an indictment on the stupidity and bigoted tunnel vision of mad Baptist fanatics. The stain of the Pilgrim Fathers is never far away in the USA!!!
Why bring religion into it? At least they have commonsense. Not everyone who is against abortion is religious. What they do is there business in the states. How about backwards Australia do the same? Ban abortion!
I can see many feminists will be upset as they fought so hard to get the abortion law through in the first place. I can see many will go to a state where they can still have an abortion, so you might be right in saying there will be chaos.
Not all will travel to other states. Some don't have the money to pay.
Hi Cilly, Woody here and I agree with you.
Why would it cause chaos? What happens in the US doesn't automatically mean squat here. Anyone with the brains they were born with will just go to another state for the procedure and there will still be unofficial procedures done in the states who implement bans.
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