Should There Be Equal Parental Leave?


Finland just unveiled its new paternity leave scheme, enabling fathers to take up to 7 months paid paternal leave. It’s be hailed as a step forward and encourages men to take more of a role in childcare. But do you think it would work in Australia? Do you think dads should be able to take as much leave as mums? Should Australia adopt something similar?

Posted by on 12 Feb 2020

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    Gunner

    Yes of cause parenting is for both parents.they both need a rest

    Posted by Gunner on 22 Feb 2020

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    Charmaine

    Yes,both parents should have equal rights.

    Posted by Charmaine on 17 Feb 2020

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    Helen

    Being able to share the early stages of a new baby is essential for father and child bonding as well as for mother and baby so equal parental leave is essential for both parents and baby.

    Posted by Helen on 16 Feb 2020

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    Rebecca

    No, I think that a father and man should be out working for his family unless he is unwell In some way and unable to do so. Both parents have a big role in a child’s life so perhaps just take turns if possible

    Posted by Rebecca on 16 Feb 2020

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    Paul

    No, But I feel solo parents should have the same time off!

    Posted by Paul on 16 Feb 2020

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    ibby

    If the parents are both working only one needs time off.

    Posted by ibby on 16 Feb 2020

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    Who? Me?

    What a load of absolute rubbish. Why do people insist on being paid for doing nothing? The father should be able to find ample time to spend with the child after work and on weekends. Those saying yes to this stupid idea obviously have nothing to do with the operation of a business, especially owning one. Expecting a business owner to carry someone for 7 months while they contribute nothing to the business just isn't feasible. If the father wants time with the baby, resign and let someone else have their job.

    Posted by Who? Me? on 16 Feb 2020

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    guidopeter

    Of course there should be equal leave. Are we all that precious with time that we can't see the forest for the trees? We have been fighting for equal rights over everything else, why should it suddenly stop at Parental Leave, it's silly. So I say keep all things equal and let's live a happy and united society WITH all things equal. Discrimination should stop now.

    Posted by guidopeter on 16 Feb 2020

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    musicveg

    I am on the fence, one side says yes because of equality but the other side says only one parent should get paid leave because it is a choice to have children and if both parents get paid leave then more people will have children and we would be more over populated, should stop the baby bonus too. Parents already get family assistance. How much more money do they want to be paid to have children? But they should be able to take unpaid extended leave and get back their job. So it boils down to the employer really, should be in your contract. Once thing though is if you choose to not have children you don't get extra time off work, is this fair, we could go on and on about this.

    Posted by musicveg on 16 Feb 2020

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    The Admiral

    WHY discriminate between parents? That is outrageous. Or are we still in the 1700s???

    Posted by The Admiral on 15 Feb 2020

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    stretchly

    the amount of paid leave for parents in many companies is equal in australia as long as you are employed in a non manuel position all you need to do verify the contract signed prior to commencement of employment in short all areas of employment needs the amendment of a equal leave for childbirth agreement i agree this needs to be put in place in australia

    Posted by stretchly on 15 Feb 2020

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    Spiderwoman

    Of course! To enable equality and give children due care.

    Posted by Spiderwoman on 15 Feb 2020

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    Who? Me?

    What a load of garbage. If the father can't find enough time after work and on weekends to bond with the newborn then they are spending to much time indulging themself.

    Posted by Who? Me? on 16 Feb 2020

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    dizzyspell

    NO, THE PARENTS SHOULD DECIDE WHICH ONE HAS LEAVE. SMALL BUSINESSES WOULD GO BROKE IF BOTH HAVE LEAVE

    Posted by dizzyspell on 15 Feb 2020

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    Frederick

    It's only fair to get equal parental leave.

    Posted by Frederick on 15 Feb 2020

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    Bronwin

    i do not believe in paid maternity for either parent.

    Posted by Bronwin on 15 Feb 2020

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    Zanniee

    Absolutely I do. It happened in our household that I had to return to work 9 weeks after the birth of our 2nd child. Now at the time my husband was a house husband because that's what we decided was best for us. If he didn't have to resign from his job however, it would have been a totally different kettle of fish and I'm sure our family would be in a different situation now. Yes there should absolutely be parental leave for the father.

    Posted by Zanniee on 15 Feb 2020

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    Ulysses

    I didn't have kids, I couldn't afford to. I wonder why people feel they are entitled to have kids, then palm them off. Mum's probably do need a little leeway, as far as maternal leave goes, especially if they are breast feeding. Dad's .... nope. They do nothing useful. I'm currently going through this with a friend.

    Posted by Ulysses on 15 Feb 2020

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    Kilrust

    I think parental leave can be shared between the 2 parents or even 6 months each for the first year

    Posted by Kilrust on 14 Feb 2020

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    Who? Me?

    Would you be happy to pay someone 6 months wages for doing nothing if you were a business owner? I think the answer would be a resounding NO. I know that is my answer.

    Posted by Who? Me? on 16 Feb 2020

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    Samantha

    Yes I believe there should be equal pay rights for maternity leave regardless of which parent it is,which sex it is

    Posted by Samantha on 14 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    It was only bought in to help Mum bond, recover and breast feed etc. Dad's definitely not.

    Posted by coaster on 15 Feb 2020

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    mact

    Let's not kids ourselves. Despite modern Dad's contributing more in domestic duties the majority of chores at home and basic parenting duties are performed by mums. All current surveys in the division of domestic duties confirm this. So it's obvious that Mother's need every bit of their hard won maternity leave. To even up the super part by female contributions let the male partner or the partner deciding to continue earning be allowed to contribute tax effectively to their spouses super . Child care subsidies need reform as do payments to relatives for free childcare. And Governments need to keep a very careful eye on those parents who often return to work after parental leave and experience a change of position or are let go soon after as if punishment for leaving in the first place!! If we are going to push for equal parental leave then the one who chooses to stay home needs to pull their weight...and I mean the average Dad !! Cheer's Mact .

    Posted by mact on 14 Feb 2020

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    Leona

    For either persons

    Posted by Leona on 14 Feb 2020

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    Jean

    Parental leave for either one or the other seems fair. Far too many handouts.

    Posted by Jean on 14 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    Just for Mum as originally bought in but I do think 6 months is too long. I gave up work when I had my children and as they got older I did a bit of part time work and even then hubby carried on about it. So, no for men although for the first 2 weeks would be great if they actually got off their behinds and did the housework, shopping etc. I have a niece who when she had her children hubby did all the housework, shopping, cooking, everything so she could recuperate. Even now they share. A truly great thing to watch and certainly works when the husband is willing to take on the responsibilities as well.

    Posted by coaster on 15 Feb 2020

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    Horn

    People are living in la la land these days , they want everything their way , in the work place , at home , chosing when they might like to start a family then wanting someone else to look after the children and while they take time off to be paid oh my oh my when does it all end .

    Posted by Horn on 14 Feb 2020

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    David

    Fathers should have the ability to take parental leave if they feel capable of doing this.

    Posted by David on 14 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    Only if they truly help the mother but otherwise no way and 6 months off. Ridiculous. They did not have the baby and therefore do not need to recuperate. They do not breast feed the baby either. I still think 6 months even for Mum is too much. In my day we just had to get on with it all, no money for having the baby either. Your decision your responsibility.

    Posted by coaster on 15 Feb 2020

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    Ulysses

    Not many are capable.

    Posted by Ulysses on 15 Feb 2020

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    Emily

    Single fathers and such who struggle to support their children should be allowed to have these opportunities

    Posted by Emily on 14 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    Rarely would a single father have a new born baby ???

    Posted by coaster on 15 Feb 2020

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    Fiora

    Yes there should be , I think it’s important for fathers to be aware and part of a baby’s first year and help the mother out

    Posted by Fiora on 14 Feb 2020

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    Anne

    Sorry I said 24 months I should have said 14 months leave per child as maternity/ paternity leave, paid or unpaid?????

    Posted by Anne on 13 Feb 2020

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    Anne

    Yes as I feel who ever is the lesser wage earner should be able to take either maternity or paternity leave up to and inclusive of the amount specified. Could both parents take a portion of their maternity or paternity leave?.. that is mum takes 5 months maternity leave while dad takes the next 2 months following months equaling 7 months in total leave for a family? OR can dad take 7 months after mother takes 7 months maternity leaves, thus enabling the family to have 24 months family leave per child at paid or unpaid leave?!?

    Posted by Anne on 13 Feb 2020

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    cheryl

    Yes both parents should have a choice we live in a world of politically correct and equal opportunity

    Posted by cheryl on 13 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    Only equal if Dad gives birth otherwise it is Mum who needs time to recuperate and breast feed bub etc.

    Posted by coaster on 15 Feb 2020

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    Lorraine

    Indeed there should be.

    Posted by Lorraine on 13 Feb 2020

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    Rebecca

    Mum's and dads should get the same benefits

    Posted by Rebecca on 13 Feb 2020

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    Kelly

    I don't think both parents need to at all. 1 or the other take it or split it but definitely not both parents at the same time

    Posted by Kelly on 13 Feb 2020

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    Mellzie

    Sure why not each family is different

    Posted by Mellzie on 13 Feb 2020

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    dizzyspell

    NO. MOTHERS ARE ENOUGH LEAVE TAKERS

    Posted by dizzyspell on 13 Feb 2020

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    Nola

    Good on Finland!!! Of course there should be equal leave for both parents if they wish to avail themselves of it.

    Posted by Nola on 13 Feb 2020

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    robert

    I don't think so , this PC culture is getting out of hand , what becomes of productivity , if a business can survive without an employee for 7 months , they're overstaffed , this creates all sorts of equality problems . If a female has a heavy menstrual cycle , that can last 1-3 days off work , where does the male benefit ? can this be accrued sick leave . I think Finland is eating way too many herrings !

    Posted by robert on 13 Feb 2020

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    Jeelina

    I think either one of the parents gets to choose for this one

    Posted by Jeelina on 13 Feb 2020

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    marianrose

    I do not believe in paid parental leave for either parent.. Have your children when you can afford to, not rely on an employer to support your childbearing

    Posted by marianrose on 13 Feb 2020

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    Horn

    Spot on Marianrose , however you are talking about the current generation who believe they are(Entitled ) to everything "yesterday ,"

    Posted by Horn on 14 Feb 2020

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    Tonyporritt

    No. Only one parent should have any parental leave.

    Posted by Tonyporritt on 13 Feb 2020

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    fitzy59

    Yes i think that they should

    Posted by fitzy59 on 13 Feb 2020

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    Peter

    It's a nice theory but who's going to pay for it? I run a small business employing 5 people and if I had to employ another person to cover maternity leave it would put me out of business which is why I don't employ women of child bearing age. All you millennials of the me, me, me generation need to get a grip on reality.

    Posted by Peter on 13 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    I think you are in trouble saying you pick and choose your employees on sex and child bearing age. However, I do agree paying for parental leave by the employee is wrong. If you want kids take the responsibility of saving up, arranging your finances so you can leave work etc. but not rely on others to give you hand outs.

    Posted by coaster on 15 Feb 2020

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    cheryl

    It’ should be equal rights for both parents

    Posted by cheryl on 12 Feb 2020

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    Davie53

    Yes I think the burden of each couple would be a good idea for this country as well as other countries. .whether he remains the bread winner or she is, would be intirely up to them. Just seems logical in terms of shareing in my opinion.

    Posted by Davie53 on 12 Feb 2020

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    Eileen

    Australia‘a economy could not cope as it is going backwards. Yes, one parent may negotiate leave either mother or father, whoever is main care giver for the baby and who is willing and able to take that amount of time from their job. There is absolutely no need for both to take leave. We didn’t have fathers getting paid leave when I had my children. My husband worked nights and I worked days and we coped like thousands of others did back in the 60s and 70s.

    Posted by Eileen on 12 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    We also did not get paid $1000's for having a child or getting them vaccinated (which is sad that has to happen to protect Australian children), no paid maternity leave, nor did not have subsidised child care either. We took responsibility for our lives and finances and children. Why should a business have to hold your job because you are making a life change by having a child. Why should a business have to pay 6 months maternity leave because you have chosen to have a child. Your choice, your responsibility. No to fathers getting maternity leave and the mother can negotiate with their workplace as to how many weeks or months they are going to take off unpaid if they wish to return to work after giving birth. Time to stop this continual drain on the taxpayers coffers also. Our aged pensioners who have worked all their lives and contributed years of tax are living in poverty. We hear about the Baby Boomers living the high life but in reality this is just a few in comparison to the ones doing it tough. Our health system is in a mess thanks to mismanagement by successive governments. Time to stop pandering to the minorities and get real.

    Posted by coaster on 15 Feb 2020

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    Hieme

    Share the burden. Instead of new mothers having 12 weeks paid leave, give them 6 weeks paid leave then dad can have 6 weeks paid leave. Then there is no added burden on the employer or tax payer.

    Posted by Hieme on 12 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    What if Mum is breast feeding. Dad cannot do this. Would many of these dads do the housework - heck how many do their share now. It would just be a paid holiday for them. Sorry men but this is a fact witnessed by women all over the world Yes there are exceptions to the rule but majority wins here. No, men can stay at work and perhaps come home and actually do some work around the house instead of sitting in front of the TV or expecting dinner on the table. Not male bashing here, it is just facts.

    Posted by coaster on 15 Feb 2020

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    Tiny2306

    All for Dad's spending time with the kid's but who pays the bill? Life is already expensive enough and this will only increase the cost of living so employers can pay for it. If the money comes from Government funding then our taxes will need to go up so we fund it anyway. Maybe we would be better to find ways of decreasing the cost of living and reducing taxes so that Dads and/or Mums don't have to go back to work as quickly or can afford to have time off to spend with their children

    Posted by Tiny2306 on 12 Feb 2020

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    FUNKY

    i know its important for the child to have their father in their life but Australia is already in an economic crisis as it is and business owners and tax payers shouldn't have to pay for this on top of the high living standards. If Australia gives this the go ahead then they will need to be prepared to give non parents 7 months off too as they work and pay their taxes which go toward many things they will never use like Education etc etc. If and when the economy becomes stronger again and companies begin making a good profit then maybe they can bring this to the drawing board. By the way our parents never had maternity leave nor mothers nor our fathers nor our grandparents.

    Posted by FUNKY on 12 Feb 2020

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    Emanuel

    I think you are correct as Australia already has the highest wages in the world,how can employers pay these extra benefits ?.I think we are getting too spoilt and it is true that our parents never had maternity leave or other fringe benefits we are asking for?We have already outpriced ourselves and this move will make more companies go off shore the way how our economy is going?

    Posted by Emanuel on 14 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    Bot so much off shore these days but to the internet. Supermarkets will bring in systems where the check outs will be obsolete so how many people out of a job then. All these people losing jobs equals no money, no tax, no purchasing power. Eventually, the economy will collapse. I don't have a degree but even I can see that so these extra payments people seem to think they are entitled to is just bring it about sooner.

    Posted by coaster on 15 Feb 2020

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    ere

    Maybe Finland can afford it, Australia certainly can't. 7 months paid parental leave for fathers with the current state of our economy is just a pipe dream. Even if we weren't so close to a major depression it would be an unfair burden on many businesses especially small businesses. I'm surprised that it's even been suggested.

    Posted by ere on 13 Feb 2020

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