On Newstart (the unemployment benefit in Australia) a single person can
receive just under $490 a fortnight, that increases if they have children. Long
term unemployment is a problem in Australia, a lot of welfare recipients find
themselves stuck on Newstart for years. Over the years politicians have
suggested increasing and decreasing benefits to help struggling Aussies find
employment, what do you think LiveTribers? Should Newstart be increased or is
there another way to curb unemployment?
Posted by on 23 Apr 2019
Yes. No one can survive on the small amount of money they recieve. If used
correctly as a helping hand it should actually be enough money to help.
Many of you should be ashamed you are so quick to Judge, but you learn nothing
and try to help-not.
Do you realize that women over 50 in Australia are the most at risk of
redundancy, homelessness and ending up on fixed low income?
In big part due to them being the unpaid carers of family/society and gender
disparity in wages/ superannuation etc?
Does this inspire no compassion in those of you who would be quick to condemn
your neighbor though you do not get to know them?
I respect your rights to have these opinions but honestly does it make you Proud
of yourself to condemn others this way? If-so I feel pity for you. Whatever
happened to 'Love Thy Neighbor'? or 'Let him without sin cast the first stone'?
I hope those among us who condemn our fellows this way are indeed pillars of
their own community and do good works each day of their lives. Because at the
end of the day if all you do is earn money for yourself and your own desires and
goals-well that's not much of a virtue is it?
I do wish you all well.
Yes I think it should be increased. Having said this, I believe it should depend
on what the extra money is required for. I think people on New start could learn
how to do a basic budget and keep it going. Then when they need extra assistance
they can just bring it in and show Centrelink and explain where and why they
need extra. Then some bills or food can be supplied or gotten with the extra
money but I would give this in the form of coupons rather than cash to make sure
food is received.
Also I agree with something someone else stated and that is that they don't need
an increase if their is only themself and they have enough to possibly save a
little money as well. This to me means they need to work harder at looking for a
Oh to answer the actual question... No I don't think it should be increased..
rent bills and food should be enough to get by.. if you can save enough to live
off and have no desire to work then you deserve to live at as a low income
family.. BUT if you can't provide for yourself or your family then steps need to
be taken to ensure the money is spent on meeting the minimum living standards -
The government allowance is plenty to survive on!
The pension on the other hand should be raised and housing bills (electric water
heating) should be included for elderly Australians that need that assistance!
Of course it should be increased. How is a person supposed to live and pay rent
if the can get a rental plus bills and food on the tiny amount
That said it should maybe the increase should be given in food stamps and money
vouchers for regular bills
Have a look at "I, Daniel Blake" a British movie that shows how Australia's dole
system is almost an exact copy of Britain's, designed to crush the spirit and
life out of the very people it should be helping. The Government is meant to
look after the welfare of its people, but is only interested in the big
corporations and they handouts they give.
Benefit base wages should be paid to every Australian from the age of 16 - there
is a socio economic problem that revolves around government assistance and
laziness - the current allowances promote a healthy lifestyle and accommodation
to be provided for those in need - I am a big believer in preventing the
government from restricting payments for individuals because they haven't met
certain obligations.. people strive to be better as individuals and for their
peers - the allowances aren't there to promote a better standard of living they
are there to allow a basic standard of life.. I also believe the homeless would
benefit from a universal allowance - there is a massive dent in the system that
is suppose to be working for us!
3 months to find a job maximum, then I believe that any benefit received should
be on a minimum hourly rate eg $12.50per hour!
To receive $490 per fortnight
They have to work 39.2 hrs like the rest of us!
No free money to able bodied citizens!!!!
I have two friends in their 60's who while having major health problems have
been forced on to Newstart. They spend their days filling out compulsory job
applications for jobs they know they will never get because they are too old.
They had to buy computers in order to do this and spend a lot of their money on
data. You try living on $39 a day. One of them cannot afford to fix the
leaking roof, buy a new heater, haircuts, clothes and many other necessities
working people take for granted. They do work a full week, justifying the
paltry sum they are handed, They waste more time and money travelling to see
their so-called counsellors for 5 minutes and frequently are punished for
mistakes Newstart makes. So don't knock it until you've been there.
I believed instead of increasing the amount or decrease it, that government
employment agencies should find different job opportunities or direct access to
different career fields which can easily linked with their short term courses or
training programs. That way it will work more effectively and will help to
reduce unemployment rate in most areas.
Saying that I am also struggling to survive from my Newstart allowance but still
thinking there’s something in their system that employment agencies should
change as with lots of experience and skills most of them couldn’t find me
something that slightly similar to any of my fields. Every time I find a job I
always found it myself but now from any other ways. So I believe these
government employment agencies should reorganise there way of finding employment
for their clients and that will solve most of the problems.
Yes, I think Newstart should be increased. I've been where they are before and
it's not easy. If you're not living at home and paying rent you don't have much
leftover for that fortnight, when most rental properties exceed that amount,
that's if you don't live in or been offered public housing. Also after rent, you
have to budget for other stuff like Gas/Electricity, food, etc. Not everyone on
NS wants be in that situation and wants to get out of it and help themselves. So
if the government allowed NS to be increased, it may be a bit more comfortable
for those who are already struggling financially and helping others to help
I'm on Austudy. The state government takes 20% of my Austudy. I am almost 50 yrs
old, and am living on $180 a week. Governments don't care - they like to see us
suffer and break the law because it keeps their mates in the police and gaols
I don't believe unemployment benefits should be raised BUT before the government
goes down that track they should ensure the wealthy/the big four banks and do
not forget the multi nationals and please put an end to extremely rich/high
income earners placing their cash into offshore accounts. The unemployed need a
guaranteed benefit that allows them a healthy food intake that doesn't include
junk food, cigarettes, alcohol or illegal drugs and gives sufficient money that
includes public transport or fuel to at least make their job interviews.
Imagine if people were this concerned about people like Rupert Murdoch receiving
millions from the government while paying no tax. While actively trying to
encourage these culture wars among the populace mind you.
As a person who has been on Newstart long term & a 46 yr old female I'd really
like to see the Newstart payment increased as I barely keep afloat. Now before
you judge let me explain why I have been on Newstart long term. Firstly I have
an auto immune disease and other health problems, so unfortunately I find it
hard to work full-time. So I tend to get jobs that a casual or part time, but as
a lot of people know it's very hard to find stable part time work.
Yes I could go onto Disability and did try once but was knocked back and that's
fine, but also I do want to work just not easy when I can get sick for a few
months at a time but I still push through and go to my job agency and look every
day for jobs.
Drink celery juice on an empty stomach every morning it will help you to get and
I understand how hard it is, I had IBS for years and now cured myself, and it
was impossible to even leave the house at times but it is not classed as a
disability like so many other health issues. People have to stop judging those
that are long term unemployed .Everyone has a different story.
The social security in our country is a joke I was homeless a few years ago
due to ptsd and a messy divorce I had to apply for the dole and wait 6 weeks
to get it yet a refugee got it straight away when I did get it it wasn't
enough to live on by the time I had managed to find a cheap room I had barely
enough to buy food the dole needs a massive overhaul to help people live on it
A friend of mine has been through dv she had help for 6 months than was put on
to new start she is doing a course to get a job so she can support her kids. If
doing a course I think helping people to survive her mum helps her but if she
had no one she and the kids would be out on the streets I do believe every
cercomstance is different that’s the hard bit xx
This is way too complex a problem to be solved just by throwing money at it. Our
Social Security system was designed a century ago to solve the problems of that
time for society as it was at that time. Since then, the politicians have been
patching the system, mainly to curry favour with (ie. votes from) various nosy
groups. Certainly, some gross unfairness has been fixed, but we're still left
with an outdated mess - and there are many countries who share the problem (and
have been unable to solve it.) People are living longer - 60 years in the 1920s,
82 years now. We could reduce the number of pensions by increasing the
retirement age, or increase taxes. Increasing taxes means people have to work
more to maintain their lifestyle, so the demand for work will increase
regardless of which method is used. Technology has led to a reduction in the
amount of work available - we just don't need the proportion of clerks to
process paperwork any more, nor do we need as many process-workers in factories
or telephonists or telegraphists. So the amount of work available to be done
divided by the number of workers available to do it has decreased. If we reduce
the working week, then we could have more people employed, but so many people
have geared their lifestyle to their income and overspent on a too-big house, a
brand-new 4WD in the driveway and foreign holidays every year. What we need to
do is to have a serious inquiry into what to do - and only then can we decide on
such things as benefits provided by governments.
Absolutely newstart payments should be increased. Getting a job isn't as easy
as everyone thinks. Were mean to be a country where people don't have to go
without but I wouldn't be surprised at all if people on newstart/ sole parent/
age pension or any other government benefit do. I truly believe that these
people live below or so close to below the poverty line it would hinder them in
getting a job. Maybe an increase and an increase in job training. Let's give
every chance to those who are struggling.
you scums ...who say ,,,get a job ...you make like it sounds ,, Jobs are like
fish n chips ..every one can get them on a Friday or a Sunday roast ,,your
out of touch ,,with main stream Australia ...you Hypocrites ,, Just because
you have Job ..Dont go rubbishing people ..who try hard ..But cant find anything
!! Dont go putting scorn on those ,,,who are having a fair go ...you hypo
critical Dogs !!! I hope one day you taste ...Work for the Mole ..Dole
...see if you can handle this scab Money !!! you farking hypocrite
Fiberals !!! ......
Certainly.. Have you tried living off of so little money. My wife and myself
are on carers and disability pensions for my medical issues... We have a 22
year old daughter that has had the most terrible luck since leaving high school
with finding full time employment which doesn't exist for the young. She had to
move back with us a second time as it becomes impossible to get a head of bills
etc and look for jobs off $165 a week..
Get a job. I did, I'm 58, I have been on unemployment benefits for about 6 weeks
of my entire life .... those times were in my late teens and mid twenties, the
1st time was about 2 weeks, the second was about 3 or 4 weeks. The way to cut
employment is to get a job ... simple. I lost my job of 28 years last October.
I've got casual work coming out of my ears, I haven't needed welfare, I will
NEVER need welfare while I am able bodied, except for maybe the aged pension,
when I'm no longer able to physically work. Longtime unemployed people need
to not be so picky and get off your arse. You are scabs, you live off MY tax
and those of other hardworking people, & what is more, you are making people
that are on the aged pension poor, because you are too bloody lazy to get out
and work. You mention struggling Aussies .... have you given thought to the
farmers who have gone through years of drought, only to have their stock drown
in a flood. You do not struggle, you don't get off your arse and get yourself
out there ... do you volunteer? If so, where? Stop whinging about what you
are entitled to, and start making a difference about what you CAN do. Go do
something for someone else instead of worrying about the dole and what it pays
... if you were working you wouldn't be worried about welfare.
I have a counter response/question. Can You or Anyone with this position offer
those willing unemployed a Job?
Anyone? Give us a Job, Give Us a Job!? How many among us have gone out of our
way to connect with long term unemployed people and offer them a real fair go?
A paid Job I mean btw, as many of The Unemployed are working in unpaid voluntary
Consider this also, many unemployed and others on benefits Volunteer to Work
Unpaid to Give back to society and also for their health and well being.
But there are those who are forced into so-called "voluntary work" or work for
the dole...does this not contradict Our Human Right to receive support/ social
security from our governments without condition. Does it constitute a form of
Consider also that if those unpaid workers were not "voluntarily" filling those
positions that paid positions would have to be created instead!?
We also have the Human Right to Live Free and Not Be Held in Slavery. So...it's
a little more complex than simply...get a job. I would ask for you to show me
paid work that long term unemployed are likely to get for starters.
There are literally not enough jobs for people. It's not that simple at all.
Times have changed since you were young and you got in and got various
experience when it was good by the looks of it. I'm sorry, but you are out of
Well, I'm 65 and have been unemployed for 17 years+. Because I saved an invested
in this country, I had accumulated too many assets to get the dole - not that I
wanted the dole. If you aren't on the dole, the "recruitment agents" aren't
interested as they are paid a handsome premium for taking people OFF of the
dole. So for 15 years, I survived on my savings until I could arrange my affairs
to comply with the rules and start receiving the dole and hence increase my
chances of gaining employment through a recruiter. Casual work doesn't come easy
in IT - and when you have a resume which is 100% IT since you joined the
workforce, employers don't want you. If the job is outside of IT, then "You'll
leave as soon as you find an IT job." If it's an IT job then the recruiters can
make more money by importing a green candidate from a third-world country. I've
had recruiters complain to me that they have to apply a skills test to their
recruits before they can send them out to work as their qualifications are just
so much paper. They recruit overseas and pay a subsistence wage. When their
imported candidate asks for a more realistic income, they're told to go to
centrelink as the recruiter has a queue of eager candidates ready to replace
them. In IT, it's next to impossible to get a job except through a recruiter. I
have - but the job was taken from me after 6 months because my immediate boss
had promised it to his wife. Volunteering? Yes - I tried that, at TADWA
(Technical Aid for the Disabled WA) for 9 months. They wanted me to go from 2
days a week to 3, but since I was being paid the big $8/day petrol money but it
was costing me $25/day to travel, I could not. Eventually I left because the
boss was mechanically undoing the work I was doing when I wasn't there.
"Couldn't do it without the volunteers" if the volunteers agreed with him and
"There's a queue waiting to take your place" if they didn't. Time and effort
wasted (not just mine - every volunteer's) because the labour was provided at no
cost and hence was valued at zero. Entitled to? Well, since I saved and
invested, I won't get an old-age pension, if that's what you mean. Just because
you pay your taxes doesn't entitle you to anything. Now if you spend every last
cent you earn on self-entertainment, that's another story. Then you get a
pension. You're entitled to it, see?
Yes it should. I usually work but having had a recent operation where I couldnt
work for 3mths I only had Centrelink to pay my rent and bills. By the time I
paid my fortnightly rent I had approx $100 for the fortnight for bills and food.
It is very hard to survive
It’s very hard to live and survive if one has medical condition and NIL income
from Centrelink and does not qualify for any assistance due to partners income.
The system sucks and they assist only the refugees with all the benefits none
for the people who have been paying taxes for decades.
It is increase twice per year. If people wanted to work they can as there are
lots of jobs out there, the problem is the people, they want CEO positions they
don't want to get dirty. Fruit picking is a well paid job you can make over $300
per day easily yes I typed per DAY, yet very few want to do it.
I've done fruit picking. I did not make $300 per day, in fact that is f**king
hilarious to think just anyone can go and make $300 per day picking fruit. The
chances are you won't make much unless you are pretty fit and have the capacity
for the work if it's going by piece rate. I was always on wages thankfully. I
was almost going to do piece rate work before a course started. While sifting
through the paper work I noticed a statement saying the average weekly pay is
under $200 - 6 full days per week work. That doesn't even cover rent and should
be illegal. Also, the immigrants get paid less money than Australians. The visa
system is in place for a reason. I'm not sure if they even get covered by any
insurance. I respect the few that can go out and kick a**e making a decent
amount but that system is extremely sketchy.
Absolutely agree ozycash. I live in an area that grows bananas & paw paws,
roughly 50% of the workers are either backpackers or workers contracted from the
South Sea Islands, because the farmers cannot fill their needs with locals ....
plenty of fit young locals are unemployed and on the dole though! I personally
lost my part time permanent veterinary nurse's job last October after 28 years,
and while I haven't picked up part time permanent work YET, I have had casual
work coming out of my ears, in fact I've earned more money in the last 6 months
than I did in the entire last financial year when I had a regular income ..... I
certainly haven't needed welfare. INCREASE the old age pension though.
Definitely as well as the Disability and Aged Pension. Politicians should take
Pay cuts and their expense accounts should have a cap on them. And all
Politicians should not be allowed to claim a pension if they earn over a certain
amount and should be the same age as the rest of us to qualify. If they own
companies or have partners who are wealthy they shouldn't qualify for it. The
pension we receive should be what all Politicians get also. Let's see them
manage on what we get paid.
The Newstart allowance should definitely be increased. It hasn't been increased
in over 20 years, meanwhile politicians receive regular wage rises plus the
benefits that come with their jobs. Politicians get paid regardless of whether
they do a good job or not and most of them under perform spectacularly on a
regular basis. Meanwhile job searchers on Newstart have to constantly prove
that they are trying to find work that just isn't there. There are not enough
jobs for everyone. Newstart recipients are being set up for failure and a life
of poverty by their own government. Meanwhile the politicians fail, fail and
fail some more but still get paid and wage rises, free travel, meal tickets etc.
I think the system is criminal and evil. It makes me feel very vulnerable as
to how I would get buy if I had no job and no money.
Stuff off ..The Punitive ...The 2002 / 2003 .inquiry into poverty looked into
that ,,But it was not followed up !!! There is so much Punitive in the ongoing
approach ! nothing will change ..untill ..real solutions be found ..I have
suggested some ..I am sincere .. And the 2002 / 2003 , into poverty enquiry of
the Senate ,,Have offered some .. I repeat ,,Investment - into Job creation
.schemes ..will pay off in the long run ,,, Axe ..work for the dole ..There is
no return on taxes in that scam !!! But if you truely invest in a National
job creation ,investment scheme ..there will be a return !!!!!,, cause of the
taxes being paid into the economy ... If your on work for the mole ..you dont
pay taxes ...But if there was a job creation programme ..you would pay taxes
..going back into the system ..unlike work for the mole ...I hope some one .gets
me //some where ,,its common sence !!!
Yes it should be increased. Everything else has increased yet new start hasn't,
it literally buries , it's unalienable.
How can a person be expected to fill their obligations when they can't even
afford to eat or put petrol in the car, let alone be dressed the way centerlink
deem appropriate for interviews.
Many have to choose, food rent or electricity. Many go without food just so
kids can eat or rent is paid.
Many need dental work, it's unaffordable on centerline
Many put off healthcare cos it's too expensive if not on pbs or specialist out
Can be effective in looking for work if your struggling to merely survive and
Just go to Centrelink Offices at the end of each year in West and South West
Sydney and you will see mum and Dad bringing in their kids and signing them up
for welfare. When you have a whole family (Mum/Dad/Kids) all on welfare there is
something wrong with the system.
There is something wrong with the job creation part, many jobs going overseas,
many jobs going casual, temporary and contract. We have lost permanent jobs to
the gig economy and robotics is soon to follow. We are heading for a disaster if
something doesn't change soon.
The answer is yes and No yes to those who show genuine interest in not being
unemployed but are genuine straggling and No to those who don't. However if it
is increased it should come with no more punitive conditions . The is too meany
punitive conditions attached already
A Royal Commission into - WORK FOR THE DOLE _ MOLE is needed !! And,
For DEAD START .. A ROYAL COMMISSION into this Poverty induced . Band
aid solution ..Poverty added woes .. This idealogy of the Fiberals - in
relation to welfare ,,Is crossly unfair .. There was a senate inquiry to
welfare and poverty in this country in.2002 /2003 ,,it made many recomendations
,,why was this not followed up ?? Its sitting in the Canberra Library
..gathering cob webs ..! ( The proof is in the pudding ..Enquiry into poverty-
2002 / 2003 ..There is a thick book ,,with recommendations ..100% from that
)..A Royal commission into poverty and Dead start ,,shine the light on this
grose mis carriage of justice !!! of common decency !!! ....Massive Job
creation ..Not Mutual obligation !!! Solutions needed ..not judgement and
scorn !! Refer to the Senate enquiry into poverty 2002 - 2003 , for answers
!!!... refer to that ,,its there ..!!!............................
Work for the dole is a complete waist of government money and in most cases a
waist of time for people who have too do it. yes it is unfair and dosnt carry
any justice. Ok yes it does give peaple something to do but if its a forced
thing actually de motivates people. it will only work if the person can do it in
something that has some interested in the job even if its as small as 5 %
There should be no such thing as New start - aka ..Dead start - Fart ! Or work
for the MOLE !! This right wing - sting crap- has been in since , The Fiberals
brought it in Under Howard ,,A draconion measure ..to make life tough and
un-fair ,,criminalise ..demonise .un-employed people ! Make them the criminals
of society ! The Murdoch media and the right wing dogs ..Have kept ..Dead start
and work for the mole in place .!! Its time to Axe this crap ! ( Massive Job
creation investment needed !!! ! Not Mutual obligation )...Its time for
politicians to go on Dead start for 1 year ,,and all the workers in comfort
zones, who critizise unemployed people ..to experience - Starvation wages and
poverty for 1 year ,,Lets see if you can give up your posh life style ...for
work for the mole ..who you voted in !!! Hypocrites- dead hearted right wing
sting ..mob ...No solutions ...Just attack ..the less well off !!!!... The
Fiberals ..Mob !!!!.........
Axe- DEAD START - Axe - Work for the Mole ! Its a train wreck on Steroids !
no taxes are being paid by this Rort scheme ! Its Starvation wages and its mass
exploitation on Grand scale ! - A more Humane and practicle way of getting
people into real Jobs - Is Job Creation schemes . (.Create Jobs ,where there
are no jobs !!! A massive job creation investment is needed ..Similar to The
RED Scheme !) THat scheme only went for 6 months ! Not enough time to even
scratch the surface or touch the sides ! ...
A national Job creation investment scheme ..could pay all welfare receipents
the minimum wage , plus entitlements . The taxes on this is around 150 dollars a
week .so 700,000 people at 150 a week = around a Billion dollars in taxes going
back in to the economy ,,at 1 month ,,thats around 4 billion at 12 months
..around 48 Billion !! The Federal ..States and private sectors could all
pitch in and make it happen .The scheme will pay for it self , in the first
couple of months ! An investment in job creation schemes ,, is a guaranteed
return ..Because all the taxes going back in to the economy .48 billion dollars
is a great return for a couple billion ..to Give Unenployed people a leg up and
a fair start!!!! ,,Not a dead start ,,starvation wages on work for the dole ..Be
used and abused by the system ..(There should Be a Royal commission held into
this Dragonian monster ,,called- work for the dole !!! ) Massive investment in
to Job creation schemes ..will or could be the long over due answer, for long
term sustainment for un-employed people!!! .There is million things they could
be paid to do ,if it was funded and sustained ..watch the economy debt and
deficit shrink.and productivity improve ,,As the side lined become employed and
dignity restored ! .End, DEAD START ,END ,Work for the Mole !! now
..Investment in Job creation programmes - long term ..right now ..A fair go
start !! ...Fair Dinkum for all !!!
Yes it should be increased only to cover every day living expenses. If you need
a car petrol is now $1.60 plus per litre. Rents are too high and food costs have
gone through the roof. No wonder there is an obesity problem in Australia.
People on low incomes can only afford cheap junk food.
To be honest it is much cheaper to cook at home and shop in bulk, but you raise
a fair point...can we all cook? Have we learnt how to shop? To Budget? Could
simple help such as cooking classes and shopping coaches help Australians on
Fixed low incomes to budget and better survive? Not to mention the nutritional
They can only afford cheap junk food .....really? Where do you shop? Most
weeks I spend around $20.00 - $30.00 .... sometimes less, I buy good whole foods
and fresh foods. I do buy 1 kg of raw fish for around $10.00 that lasts me 3ish
weeks .... I realize that some people on the street without cooking facilities
cannot do that. I have tried to put myself in their shoes & realise that they
may only have a backpack or a plastic bag as a cupboard, & no refrigeration, buy
a 750gr bag of home brand oats, ( for the "cupboard"), $1.10 for the bag
contains 25 serves = .044 cents, milk, $1.20 for 4 serves, needs to be consumed
that day or sooner .... using that line of thinking I have roughly costed out
what a person on the streets with no facilities to keep food cold or to cook,
but with a "cupboard" on their back and something to put their food on and eat
with. I have also assumed they cannot afford to buy a bag of apples/
pears/oranges or other cheap fruit in bulk ... i.e. a 1 kg bag, and even if they
can, it might be a bit too much for the "cupboard". As best I can, and using
a current Woollies price list, a breakfast of 3 serves of oats, a serve of milk,
with a banana comes to the princely sum of 70.132 cents ... I am not aware of
any fast food outlets that can beat that price .... I would almost have to
double the milk price for that meal, because any leftover after 3.pm would
almost have to be thrown away, unless it's a cold day, or it's shared with
someone in similar circumstances, so an expensive breakfast would reach
$1.00.132 cents. Lunch would be a small tin of fish, sardines are yummy, and a
half a packet of a small salad .... given they have no facilities to buy & chop
their own stuff, so lunch would be a little more expensive, about $2.30
including a serve of milk ..... I think some of the people that sell dead
processed food might match that .... but at what expense to a person's health.
Night time would be the rest of the packet of lunch salad, + what ever milk is
left over, so about $1.30. So roughly costing $5.00 a day. I would NOT like
to be on that diet for a second, but it is definitely WAY BETTER than eating the
shit that comes from fast food outlets ... and there's no fast food outlet that
can give you a halfway good diet. So my point is that people on low incomes
can eat better, they just are not aware.
For the people that really need it I would say yes. But there are so many people
who abuse the system, once they are on long term no interest in getting a job
But in saying that it is not that easy to get a job when you are mature aged
A majority of people can't survive as the cost of renting a place/ medical
coverage/transport/your meant to have good clothes for job interviews/keep your
phone alive,& so on there's not enough money from Centrelink to pay for all this
. a pay rise is not good cause the bad (do drugs & crime)to live,& the honest
people need assistance from agencies ,it's getting worse but nothing happens
For single people and for couples without children it is definitely
insufficient. I have no idea how you could survive on that amount in the
private rental market I would imagine it would be next to impossible. Perhaps
in subsidised housing you can survive on it but then the waiting lists for
those properties are years long so unless you have family or friends to help you
out I can't see how you could do much of anything really.
What jobs? There literally nothing in my town or general area unless you a
trained nurse. The local foodland openly age discriminates.
Can't move, too expensive, we rent from in-laws who give us a deal
Plus kiddo settled at school and has a chance to better her life there
I am a qualified teacher. I have an Honours degree, plus several Cert IVs in
various areas. I couldn't get anything more than casual work as a teacher. Been
in and out of work in several industries with substantial periods of
unemployment in between. In those periods I have had to rely on relatives and
friends and credit cards (I now have $15000 of cc debt) just to survive. I also
owe my mother, who is a pensioner, several thousand dollars.I've just become
unemployed AGAIN. Saying "the easy answer is get a job" is the most ridiculous
and insulting thing to say. Getting paid to do nothing? Have you heard of Mutual
Obligation? Work for the Dole? They don't allow you to "do nothing". They put
you through demeaning "Job Search training" courses. You are forced to apply for
a set number of jobs every week, and prove that you have applied for them. You
end up wasting your own and employers' time applying for the most ridiculous
jobs just to fill your quota of applications.
Yes.Providing a minimum level of income increases people's dignity and
confidence. An experiment conducted, (I believe in Canada somewhere) showed
unemployment drop, drug use drop, domestic violence drop, hospital emergency
drop, truancy drop when they set an income that was above minimum wage. This
actually reduced the costs on the government
I think the single people looking for work on new start allowance should
actually be increase there money to at least 800 a fornight due to travel
expenses for looking for work and getting work clothes and expenses it’s not
enough at this point
Yes absolutely. I live on $560 per fortnight minus $260 that centrepay takes out
for my bills such as rates, water, gas, electricity. That leaves me $150 a week
to eat and try and have some sort of life and no hope of getting ahead. And many
do it even harder than I. It's sad. Newstart hasn't gone up in over 10 years
probably longer. It's disgraceful and anyone who thinks differently has no idea
of the real world and if people comment against my post, I couldn't be bothered
argueing with your bitter greedy sorry arses. You have no idea and not worth my
words or emotions. Good empathetic people will understand. Thank you peeps
Luckily my son has been employed and got part payments for a while. But he got
550.00 per fortnight. His part time job got him just over 500.00 per week, he
could have left the job and depend on Newstart but he would have to apply for 8
jobs a fortnight. There were not that many jobs available and few people
employed in the hospitality business get permanent basis jobs. Alright in major
cities but in regional towns one is lucky to have a part time job even in
The Government claims to have created a large amount of jobs but the do not say
how many are full time. The Newstart allowance is insufficient to cover the cost
of rent and food let alone any funds to allow a person to attend job interviews.
If the Government feels that the Newstart Allowance is sufficient maybe they
should build thousands of accomodation units and allow the unemployed to have a
home with rent low enough to be paid from the allowance. Further, if a person is
made redundant over the age of 45 it is very difficult to find a new job with
the rampany age discrimination which is practised by employers whether private
or government so as a bare minimum the Newstart should be significantly
increased for unemployed people over the age of 45.
I totally agree with "Barry below", if a person on newstart shows that they are
honestly looking for work then "HELL YES" they need higher income. Could you
imagine our politicians living on $490 a fortnight? That barely or doesnt even
pay the rent. We are living in the most expensive " Western country in the
world" and our wages for everyone, "EXCEPT POLITICIANS" need to be higher.
Pensioners only get $375 a week to live on so imagine how we cope? But we cant
go out and get a job like others can as i barely manage to get around the
house.But believe me if the next 40 years in Australia go like the last 40 years
then Australia "HAS NO FUTURE". "WE WILL BE ANOTHER 3rd WORLD COUNTRY", we need
change and we need it fast.
Yes I do people are realy struggling to pay bills and have food on table let
alone be able to get around if people were in a better place then they would
have more incentive to look for work not starve them out to wanna work
In certain circumstances I would agree. Where the unemployed person shows they
are actively seeking work some extra incentive should be allocated to assist the
job seeker. For those not appearing for interviews or showing active interest a
volunteer activity should be enforced. At age 60 I was out of work, and
volunteered which led to a paid position. There is work out there.
'Newstart' is exactly that.....financial AID to help when life circumstances
change and to assist you getting back on your feet. Not to live off permanently.
If there is no 'medical reason' for you to not work, then you find a job and
contribute to society and be a role model for others. There are plenty of Job
Agencies geared to help those who want to help themselves. There is no reason
for our long term unemployed except pure laziness. Even people with disabilities
work! And if a job cannot be found, then Volunteer and make a difference. No,
Newstart should not be increased to help unemployed 'live' off welfare. If you
want better quality life? Get a job
I totally disagree with you kalou, i have had 4 of my kids begging their job
agencies to help them find a job and do you know how many jobs the " Job
agencies" have sent them on? " 0", nothing , all of my kids ended up finding
jobs themselves. Job agencies are a " USELESS WASTE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY". every
one of them should be unemployed because they are bloody useless. They are
supposed to help people find a job but i have never seen anyone get a job
through them. THEY ARE USELESS>
Newstart is just a pittance and should be increased so that people can dress
smartly for job interviews . We are always hearing that Australia is a wealthy
country and people on newstart should be able to live with dignity. All the
people that I know who are on newstart would dearly love a job to go to.
I am now retired but believe that the newstart or what ever it is called should
be high enough for people to live. That is pay the rent buy food etc with a
small amount left over for emergencies. For those who say there is plenty of
work out there I would ask them to explain the national statistics that show
there are many more people out of work than there are jobs. I remember the last
time my company advertised a job there were three thousand applicants for the
six jobs and it was my job to sort through the applicants, which was very
difficult as the majority would of made suitable employees.
Wow 3000 applicants that is amazing, just goes to show that people do want to
work, so much for all those saying that Newstart recipients do not want to work.
No there is not enough jobs for everyone and it is getting worse due to
automation and jobs going overseas and those visiting Australia on visa's and
immigration. Australians are getting pushed down to the bottom of the heap.
Dynamo, I read over your post and your fairly uneducated and out of touch with
society words preaching the same look at me look at me with almost racistly
sterotyping all people who all have a different story into dole bludging
cigarette smoking and alcohol driven couch warmers. Surely you must see now in
hindsight how narrow minded you are being when you read over what you wrote.
A friend of mine and I started our own company back 4 years ago. Having worked
with very successful results in the solar industry for a mutual friend of ours
contributing majorily in him becoming financially undependant, we both felt why
not do it for ourselves. We took the plunge. Borrowed from my wifes family and
one of my best mates the capital ($150k) to get started. We were starting a
company from scratch so everything had to be designed created and produced
including immediate sales. We brought in an immediate hit the ground running
sales force who all wanted to be paid...........So you can see where im going
with this. To fast forward 2years outside family members and other mitigating
circumstances brought a tidal wave of internal bleeding to the company that over
18months ago ended up going into administration. My business partner has tried
commiting suicide twice, is in and out of mental health hospital regulary. His
partner and 2 girls are no longer living with him as for his unstable position.
He has been trying to get centerlink payments for over 6 months but isn't given
any benefit due to income tax issues that are being held up through an
accountant. He had no money. He is in a bad way. I went from earning between
$130 and $170k a year we have 4 girls aged 5 to 9 years old. We have a mortgage,
we havent paid our mortgage for easily a year. We have both accessed and used
our entire superannuation to put towards our mortgage after the first 6 months
of unemployment. We have car loans, credit cards, personal loans and due to
trying to keep the company going in the last months of it trading we missed
paying employee super and so I have a large taxation debt also. None of our
debts, our family home our cars nothing is being serviced with any sort of
payments because the Centerlink money we receive combined is about $650 a week.
Our mortgage repayment when we were paying it was $800 a week. Once we buy 4kids
and 2 adults food, have the utility bills, school costs etc paid for we
sometimes find ourselves with no food in the fridge for the kids with 1 or 2
days to go till money comes through again. You wouldn't understand how that
plays on us as parents. With suppliers wanting to try make me bankrupt and
family and a good mate who were partially paid back there loan to start the
business no longer the relationships they once were, depression, anxiety,
helplessness, over commited financial stresses and almost certainly living with
a mental health issue making sure we both put on the right face for our kids is
draining enough. With my skillset and knowledge companies always over look me,
managers who are hiring feel intimidated if they were to hire me with their own
jobs I could keep going and explain many outside of my control conditions that
don't provide me employment. Newstart allowance is a laughable arrangment the
money isn't enough to see our kids fed at the end of some fortnights let alone
being able to buy smokes drinks and whatever else.
Everyone has a story, almost all have genuine conditions that see them have to
fall back onto Centerlink Benefits. Its demoralizing already being unemployed
but imagine dealing with a huge amount of other stuff that no one else would
know about. Its unfortunate that you will find yourself with your opinion and
attitude using Centerlink because the world works in ways where it teaches those
of us that are naive and out of touch exactly what we actually dont have a clue
about. Best of luck to everyone else who has commented and shared a little of
their story its hard, emotional and difficult. Hang in there.
Similarly when you are a family with two incomes and suddenly one of you is made
redundant Centrelink don't want to know you because you still have an income
coming in to the family - never mind the fact that your living standards have
been reduced to half and all the 'luxuries' that you have had previously and
contributed to the tax system and kept people employed - now we don't buy
anything of note, save even less and the politicians wonder why the economy
isn't booming. The unemployment figures might say we are doing OK - but when you
are not counted because you are not receiving Centrelink benefits it really irks
me that the level of underemployment is never reported. I have two adult
children to support - finishing their university degrees - and they cannot find
work unless they want to travel and do fly-in-fly out as casuals - with limited
fixed term contracts that could be taken away by 457 visa applicants because
people don't have the skills in the country - Bulls*** - start giving out kids
the degrees and training and apprentice work they deserve and stop bringing in
overseas cheap labour. People on the dole will work if they have meaningful work
that actually pays a living wage - where they can pay their HECS debt - which no
politician has ever had to pay - and start building their lives buy buying a
house they can afford and be a part of the tax paying, employed and appreciated
member of the Australian population.
Sadly, I have had to rely on the dole a few times in my life and while I believe
it is a sad necessity, it is also being managed poorly and seriously too little.
If we expect people to go out and get jobs, they need to be able to cover the
travel costs of doing that but just handing out cash which can be used on
anything at anytime is just not working. Either a card which has restrictions
on it (ie. no smokes or alcohol) or a financial adviser administering the funds
would be a much better way. I have seen the financial adviser idea work very
well in New Zealand. The benefit goes to the financial adviser who then helps
the beneficiary pay their bills first (or negotiate payments) and then the rest
is given to the recipient to use on other items such as job hunting. This helps
to see people keep a roof over their heads while managing their bills and
therefore removes a huge amount of the stress which people use as an excuse to
drink or partake of drugs. It is a balancing act as to how much more to put the
dole up. We need to provide enough for people to maintain an sensible level of
living without giving out so much that we further remove the need to get a job.
We also need to see more action taken against those who make little to no effort
to seek work. Those in rural areas are further disadvantaged by lack of
businesses within a reasonable distance. Try putting more people back into the
Centrelink offices to help manage people properly......there is the first thing
which would improve unemployment, make correctly managed and supervised
work-for-the-dole non negotiable for anyone who hasn't managed to get some type
of regular work within 6 mths, stop allowing people to take course after course
to meet their requirements, recognize more options for volunteers, etc, etc.
I disagree with cards and financial advisers because this is just another scam
for third parties to make money off Government funds, just like so called Job
Providers. It just basically boils down to there is not enough money to live
off, there are very few that waste their money.
Whilst there is no Definite One Response to this Questions.. I do advocate the
Increase of this Benefit.. Expecting People to continue living in what should be
a Now Defunct Residual Manner not only contributes to the Rise in Crime that is
often Associated from inadequate Resources which enables one to Live with a
Degree of Dignity. Just because People find themselves in Need of this Benefit
does not Make them Unworthy to Live a Reasonable Life... Each Person Regardless
of their Social Status should have the Right to a Life of Dignity, where each is
afforded Clean, Hygenic Accommodation, Nourish But Simple Food, Clothing, &
where their Health & Educational Needs are Met.. If any one of these Basic
Rights are Denied one then Potentially they are at Risk of engaging in Unlawful
Activities to meet their Needs.. In No way do I advocate that Crime should be
Tolerated but I cannot help but ponder if Providing a Residual Existence dosen't
contribute to the Problems that Society currently experiences, such a an
Increase in Child Hood Crime,. If You Take away a Person's Hope of Living a
Simple but Decent Life, its Logical to assume that they will retaliate in some
I do not know.
What I do know is, that in 42 years of my working life, I have been on the dole
twice. Neither time was for very long and I think it was total 2 months .... 5
weeks out of work the first time, the second was for 3 weeks. That was when
unemployment was high .... I think 10%. Lately ... I was made redundant from
a job I had been doing for 28 years ... I am working, making money ... I haven't
had to rely on government handouts. There is work out there .... stop relying
on the dole .... most of you are bludging. You are NOT entitled to govt.
money. That is tax I have paid. Get off your arse and WORK!
Have you ever worked a day in your life for free? Some of us have. You are very
judgmental and proud I-see. But what have you done to help others? :/ I fear it
is those who are most selfish who thrive in our current system :(
I do however respect your right to an opinion, I just do not respect or agree
with your opinion itself.
Do you realize that women over 50 in Australia are the most at risk of
redundancy, homelessness and ending up on fixed low income? In big part due to
them being the unpaid carers of family/society and gender disparity in wages/
superannuation etc? Does this inspire no compassion in those of you who would be
quick to condemn your neighbor though you do not get to know them?
To curb unemployment, it's not so simple and direct that once you're graduated,
you are guaranteed to get a job. The entire educational system has to be planned
such that what types of skills are needed now and in the near future. In this
way, it can help to reduce unemployment but in no way unemployment can be curbed
As someone who worked full time for 15 years before losing my job and having to
choose between finding a job in the same field which i was sick of or going back
to study something i was interested in. I find what a student and person on
newstart are on is appalling in this day and age. i can barely survive myself on
what i'm getting and they expect people to rent pay bills have food and support
children on this tiny amount it is totally unfair an inhumane.
no wonder so many people who are unemployed get into a vicious cycle and have
mental health issues
Yes it should be increased as people can't afford to rent or pay a mortgage and
it is not as simple as saying get a job. The job networks don't work very well
for most people and need a drastic overhaul. I think they worked better when it
was CES and was government based
I agree CES was a much better system, has gone downhill fast. So complicated
nowadays. Job networks are getting paid for nothing, biggest scam ever, they are
under-trained and have no compassion or understanding either from what I have
Yes, I myself on Newstart I have a 12yo child, I volunteer at RSPCA, I pay rent,
fuel, power, insurance, rego, schooling for my child clothes and food all on
what I get a fortnight and once all is paid I am left with $20. I apply for over
30 jobs a month. No there are people who don't give a shit but being in my
circumstances I feel that we struggle. I am one who does all the right things.
Don't judge all people on these payments like me as all aren't out there being a
bum sitting on their asses doing nothing.
I'm just reading some of these really harsh and unrealistic comments from some
of you, who probably have NO IDEA what it's like to be unemployed for many many
years and YES TRYING to get work but keep getting knock back after knock back
and these ignorant and uninformed comments are coming because of the very first
person who ever opened their mouth calling the unemployed DOLE BLUDGERS, NOT ALL
unemployed are dole bludgers yet we are all tarred with that same brush, so
until you have been unemployed and knocked back time after time not to mention
injuries and sickness that can play a big part in whether someone finds work or
not and also someones age goes against them as I have found out, because NO
business wants to pay me a mature age wage they all want to fly under the radar
by paying teens and young people under 35, less than what they are entitled too,
so there are a lots of factors to look at here..
1....long term sickness and injuries
2....if your over 50 then no one is interested in hiring because they have to
pay a higher wage
3....Doesn't matter how many certificates you have earned at Uni or College you
still will miss out on a job, I was told at 1 job I applied for, sorry your too
OVER QUALIFIED for this position....PLEASEEEEE, don't make me laugh.
4....Being under qualified is also a hurdle for some if not most
And life is not perfect and people are not perfect and that doesn't mean they
are all dole bludgers, if Centrelink was doing their job properly they would be
able to weed out the dishonest ones from the honestly trying to find work ones
and until that time comes payments need to be increased otherwise we will be
needing to give MORE handouts on everyday essentials because the cost of living
has gone up and payments have stayed the same, so would you prefer to have
payments stay the same and have to help the unemployed MORE OFTEN afford the
staples in life like food, water and electricity OR increase payments so they
can stand on there own 2 feet with everyday staples for the cost of living etc
and you may say but they are unemployed and are not standing on their own 2
feet, well maybe not but it isn't always their fault and until things change in
all directions life is only going to get harder and more depressing for
everyone, not just those unemployed who get a lot of flack from those who work,
but also those who do work who keep complaining that they need a wage increase
as cost of living has gone up, well what about those who are on benefits, you
don't believe they need to get a payment rise too, for gods sake if your working
and still can't afford everyday staples then what do you think an unemployed
persons day looks like for groceries and bills etc.
Hi Dash, I agree with what you wrote. Do you also think people should
contribute to their community while unemployed? I cannot think of any reason
for not. There are so many ways people can do this. Working for voluntary
organisations, hospitals, etc for 3/4 of day if they have work interviews.
This should also be the same for new Australians.
What do you think?
It is a deliberately cruel payment designed to force you into work asap. It
barely covers rent, let alone anything else. It really needs to be increased to
keep up with the cost of living but even then it will still be a payment that is
woefully under supported
Yes. Because it never helps those who have had a job for years then lose it
overnight. Financially it doesn't help keep a roof over your head, food on the
table, bills kept up to date, it's too little.
A lot of these people have never worked volunteered or paid taxes but want more
money. They go surfing which the equipment is not cheap, they smoke, drink,
gamble to name a few. I say increase the age pension first as the so called baby
boomers worked hard saved paid super which the government changed the rules
leaving them worse off. I remember paying 20% interest on a home loan worked two
jobs & had a wife & two children at home, yes it was my choice but now the banks
pay me 1% interest. My wife passed away 8 years ago & I'm disabled but look
after myself & a couple of pets. Bring back trade schools and other training
centers instead of skilled migrants. I may have offended some but these are my
For a person with long term injuries should be assessed by centelink for
disability payments. I don't know how assessments are done or what the payment
amount of a disabilty payment would be, but try asking centrelink about that
option - if you haven't already.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE INCREASED FOR THOSE THAT ARE GENIUNE ABOUT OBTAINING
EMPLOYMENT, BUT IF YOU HAVE BEEN ON NEWSTART FOR 5 YEARS PLUS THEN NO INCREASE
AS THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR WORK, AND DONT DESERVE TO BE HELPED, ALSO IF
YOU ARE NOT AUSTRALIAN OR NEW ZEALANDER NO BENIFITS PAID AT ALL BUT THATS JUST
MY OPINION. WARREN
What if you have only been able to find casual work and required Newstart as a
top up to keep the roof over your head? I don't think that would be fair? Life
isn't as simple as many here are making it out to be.
Some people through no fault of their own just get stuck in that whole & can't
get themselves out no matter what happens maybe they should try doing it rock
for a while & then they might realise just how hard it really is .
As a RN forced on to Newstart I can say with qualifications that not only does
it need to be increased but more affordable housing should be available and 457
visas shouldn't be issued where unemployed people can take them uip. The dole
causes malnutrition and depression over the long term at the current rate, so it
is not social security and is not benefitting Australian society as a whole. The
LNP are heartless and should be sacked.
now at nearly 72, even surviving on the pension is traumatic, I remember 1986
when the ALP and PM Paul Keating gaves us "the recession we had to have" and
mortgage rates of 17.5%. Why was he not instantly assassinated. Moreso the ALP
must never be allowed to have another seat in Parliament.
Also remember Whitlam stole our superannuation are transferred them into
consolidated revenue. Do yourself a favour and never give them another vote for
their past attrocities. I treat the ALP like dogs with rabies.
YES I am 49 and have worked my guts out in a factory, in vineyards, as a
builders labourer, freeway rest area & truck stop toilet cleaner, personal carer
& odd jobs. l had life saving heart surgury 2 months after my father died.
Apart from the physical pain there was also the mental problems l now have. I
am on Newstart and have been homeless since Febuary last year. According to
people like the federal government, real estate agents and Anthony, being
umemployed makes me just a bludger who does not deserve a chance .
As an immigrant, it scares me this hatred towards older people. I see comments
like this every day in Australia. (Generalization I mean, not blaming someone
that really did something wrong, that's another story). Ageism is rampant. (btw
I'm not old, nor baby boomer)
It's mostly baby boomers that adopt the mentality I mentioned though. Survival
of the fittest, the type of people who complain about having to invest into
society to improve the lives of the whole rather than just their own. I mainly
see old people complaining about younger people. It happens with every
generation and it's now breeding resentment.
Yes it should be raised, if your a sole parent you get two payments which
averages about $900- and if you are unfit to work you vet a pension and about
$900- a fortnight so why are people who are trying to get a job being punished
for looking for work, shouldn't they get the same......thats just my opinion :
GIVE THEM NOTHING. The government should be reducing the benefits for the
younger generation ( between 17-28 year olds). My reasoning is based on the fact
that the majority of employers are seeking this demographic group predominantly
with experience, leaving the older generation like the baby boomers high and dry
and out of work. Unfortunately, there are a large percentage of young people
whom are on newstart and don’t want to work despite the large amount of jobs
available to them. Therefore, these people should receive less benefits and
entitlements to encourage them to get off their backside and get a job. The
older population are wanting a job. They’ve worked all their lives and want to
work but employers don’t seem to care about them. Increase their entitlement
and benefits because their likely to get on the age pension anyway. Can I add
that qQLD has brought in working for the dole. This is not working as a lot of
the unemployed are electing to get their GP’s approval for having a medical
condition that would restrict them from working for the dole though still
receive entitlements. They continue to see their GP once their medical
certificates have experienced to get another one.
If your an Australian citizen for the last 10 years then yes. The government all
ready has under paid welfare for the last decade, cost of living has gone up in
10 years. Transportation, food, health, medication, specialist, education and so
on, we need to find money, the government do not seem to recognise the lower
class of people, that are struggling week by week. It is easy to say go and get
a job but how to you fill a job if there is 100 applicants applying for the 1
vacancies. The government has taken our jobs by introducing more and more
Having been on Newstart, and having to apply for 20 jobs a week. I can honestly
say that I found it extremely hard to get to the meetings and meet the
obligations of finding 20 jobs in my chosen field.
I feel it would be more beneficial to send people out for on the job training.
This gives them more confidence in the work place, allows them to get a feel for
different occupations and ease them into full time employment.
Increasing the Newstart rate, while I found it hard to afford to live, I also
feel that increasing it, makes it too easy for people to not work, as why go out
to work, when you can get a decent amount not to work!?
Absolutely, but only on the proviso that there are no jobs available for the
applicant. 40 years ago, I lived in an area where a number of young people were
on the dole while farmers were begging for fruit pickers. In cases like this the
applicant should need to prove they are physically unable to do this work or not
be paid the dole.
I believe that with the cost of living and being unemployed myself at The
moment. I would include habits like cigarettes and Entertainment let alone if
you have children is what is causing a lot of divorced singles and also pressure
in domestic violence.
You know why people are stuck on unemployment , I will tell you why . I lost my
job was given one week notice I was only casual so no severance package. My last
pay was about 1100 dollars , I went to centre link and apply for unemployment
was told I could not until I had my separt certificate . So I start looking for
work ,I want to work . 3 weeks no separate cert I am out of money down to my
last 100 dollars no we can't give it to you unless you have cert . In mean Time
I get a job to start work but have no fuel to get there go to max employment no
we can't help you you have to be on unemployment benefits ,I say I can get this
job if you help me , no we can't help you you have to be on unemployment for 18
weeks before we can help you out . I am like wtf I have a job I just need fuel
money . No can't help you but come back in 3 months we can help then I am like
wtf seriously get a cl.ue you stuipd fat over paid under thinking policy making
idiots .if you have me 40$ fuel money back then I would not of even been on
unemployed . I would of had another job three weeks after I lost mine .
How do you make dumb ass rules like this one , help people find work as soon as
they become unemployed that is when they are most likely to get another one ,not
26 weeks later
Could not agree more, help those who can and want to work, to find suitable
stable employment. :) Long term Unemployment comes with its own health issues
and the longer you are out of work the harder it is to find your way back.
It doesn't work like that. Max are not like Centrelink or anything similar. Max
Employment is just an American private company that siphons money from the
Australian government while pretending to help people. The fact most Australians
have no idea what the system is actually like in that regard is truly
disturbing. You should have asked a charity organization such as Anglicare ect
if they can help.
I partly agree with your comment and that is that people from overseas are
getting our jobs so maybe the government needs to look as usual at what they are
doing wrong But having said that everyone should be entitled to have a roof over
their heads. And im afraid that most people that are on newstart and stay on it
for years is for a very good reason, some NO, but a lot yes Mental health
problems lack of education because if they didn't have any of these issues they
would want to be off newstart and out working so maybe there needs to be a
better assessment process for these people that have been on newstart for a very
long time and then you have the young people on newstart who are NOT being given
the chance and THEN you have the GOVERNMENT getting rid of jobs being made
casual or automated I love to know hoew they think everyone will have jobs in
the future and then there will be major issues of unemploymeny
Defiantly everyone deserves a roof over their heads and food to eat, what a
bloody joke the ideas of some people saying make them get jobs I have 2 adult
kids one has only had fulltime work for the last 2 years she is 30 my other has
only casual work IS NOT ON CENTRELINK money but is struggling so much they are
both extremely hard workers and both go above and beyond their work loads and
get shit on all of the time I have suggested to my son to ask centrelink for
help but he refuses because the only time he did get help he was over paid and
had to give up all of his tax to centrelink and he was only on a small benefit
because he was trying to get into Uni trying to better himself so he was working
even less hours so he needed government help. I myself am on a disability
pension because of a workplace injury and DO NOT GET ME wrong I am grateful for
anything I get but the way it works is, because Im married I only get part
pension because when my husband works a lot it goes on his wage BUT I have
worked since I was 14 yrs old in heavy labouring jobs and now I am NOT entitled
to my own money or income as such, because Im married? I get money only when my
husband does not get work and it goes to the bills. I can tell you I got a very
very small payout of $38,000 for my workplace injury I can never work again and
all I got was $4000, $34,000 went to centrelink and I am sure they get a hell
of a lot of these payments from people so I think with all the taxes MOST people
pay all of their lives there should be enough to go around. Noone knows what
their future holds so all of those people sitting out there judging people on
newstart How about you try and live on that money it isn't even enough to pay
rent let alone travel to look for a job, Clothes for interviews, study costs. So
all you judging people wake up to yourselves you never know when you might end
up in the same position as them, anyones world can come crashing down at any
time and you will be the ones who will be knocking on centrelinks doorstep. The
whole system needs an overhaul. If I wanted to leave my husband I would be out
on the streets as a single person even if I got a full pension it is not enough
to pay rent and if it was you would be living in an absolute dump and after
working your entire life until something happens why should you have to live in
such bad conditions.People need to have empathy as someone said further down the
page NOT EVERYONE RORTS the system so give them a break you never ever know when
you might need one
This is so true I am a pensioner and I FEEL for school leavers who have to start
looking for Jobs as two of my Nieces had to one for three months and still no
job and no help from Centerlink her parents helped to take to industrial areas
shopping centers etc after approx 6 months she managed to get a job by word of
mouth by a relation who was looking for someone, and has never looked back. The
other Niece spent 9 months doing the same thing even trying do a
university.course as well her parents and relations helping then still struggled
to find a job so all you people saying no put yourselves in their shoes it was
tough on all our families but through hardships we are proud of our young girls.
No not at all. The unemployment benefit is paid to assist the person until they
find a job. It isn't paid so that they can have an alternative lifestyle.
These people need to have discipline and not be handed money just so they can
have their smokes, alcohol, extravagances (whatever that looks like). And if it
is increased it can make them slack in looking for work. There is work out
there if they're prepared to work. Have people be accountable rather than them
expecting to get something for nothing. Don't increase Newstart...increase the
minimum wage so that you can get people in those jobs and that it's worth doing
those jobs because they're able to live on that wage and should be reasonable
and it would be better to have than being on the Newstart allowance.
Encouragement should be to work rather than not to work.
Obviously u have never been in this position once u pay your rent u struggle
buying food and then we have people like u assuming we live it up with out
alcohol and cigarettes , I’ve worked hard all my life and no there is not
hundreds of jobs out there I would do any job tomorrow if given the chance I
don’t where u get your ideas from but no people on Newstart can’t afford to
have a life of luxury as u suggest , let’s hope your world is never shaken up
you may have to face reality until you live onnewstart u have no idea , I had a
great lifestyle working hard for years but it taken away in a blink through no
fault of your own we aren’t living the dream lifeby not working we are trying
to keep a roof over our head and eat not to mention scraping money to get to job
interviews and your 5 min meeting with employment agencies who do bugger all ,
not to mention u go for a job interview and u are competing with a lot of others
for one position so please get your facts straight a lot of us don’t enjoy
living like this especially when u have worked hard all your life after I pay
rent I have $70 a fortnight to live on I hardly call that a life with
Well said Dynamo. I was just in a small town where there are two crews building
solar farms. The majority of these workers are unskilled 457 visa holders and I
was told by one of these workers, a young bloke from Chile they are being paid
$2000 a week. You can't tell me that there aren't young ones on the dole who
couldn't be doing that work. OK, it would mean living in a camp in a small
remote town for a while but it would give them a good nest egg and experience,
something they aren't getting while relying on welfare.
Ok Dynamo, can you find a job for me and my partner because we can't. I'm 65,
my partner is 60, we worked together for a number of years and through no fault
of our own we lost our jobs at the end of last year (Company went bankrupt,
owing us in excess of $20,000 in wages and super), to add to that my partner had
a heart attack and is not fit for work until at least June. I'm doing voluntary
work atm, but we are really struggling on the pittance the unemployment benefit
is paying us. Our rent is $245/week and we live in a bus. Try living on that,
oh, our car rego is due soon - can you lent us $900 to pay it. Do not presume
everyone on Centrelink are slacking off. You do not know their stories.
So, every person on Newstart wastes their money on smokes and alcohol? I know of
female Newstart recipients that cannot even afford personal sanitary items once
they have paid their bills and rent.. This is a VERY ignorant statement.
Sorry but if you are not qualified in a huge range of areas there are not Jobs
out there my son has been trying to get out of retails for a number of years now
he applies for jobs so often it drives me insane he doesn't even get a response,
And may I ask have you ever had to live on that kind of money? Everyone needs
money to survive and this amount of money as I said in my response to this is
not enough money to even pay rent No offense but unless you have tried to live
on this kind of money I don't think you can judge more poverty encourages more
crime more home invasions more muggings and such I raised 2 children on my own
for 20 years and it was bloody hard I did have part pension very little but
worked fulltime. At least then there were fulltime jobs as I said no offense but
I think you need to look at the bigger picture and think about the consequences
of low income, its a snowball affect and im sure you want to be safe in our
communities and not have to think about being robbed or being mugged because
someone cant afford food