Should The Haka Be Banned?


Recently the English rugby team received a fine for their reaction to the All Black’s haka last week. Many rugby fans think the haka is unnecessary and gives them an unfair advantage. However, it’s a significant dance in Maori culture that is performed at a number of different ceremonies. LiveTribers, what do you think of the haka? Should it be banned?

Posted by on 04 Nov 2019

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    grey eyes

    nope..its self expression and cultured heritage save our history !

    Posted by grey eyes on 13 Nov 2019

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    Psymon

    Like you'd think there's ....a multitude of things to consider ...before taking hereitary away from the invaded....who still havent received fair remuneration...let's ban birds from flying no landing ..just ban birds..

    Posted by Psymon on 13 Nov 2019

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    Purple Survey Seeker

    To ban the Haka is to go against The Universal Declaration of Human Rights. An unfair advantage how? Maybe the English Rugby Team needs education on inclusiveness, equality and acceptance let alone discrimination as well as the fine. These people are supposed to be role models!!

    Posted by Purple Survey Seeker on 11 Nov 2019

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    Purple Survey Seeker

    Oh did i forget the Diversity word before acceptance!

    Posted by Purple Survey Seeker on 11 Nov 2019

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    tansphil

    Unnecessary no team should be fined...

    Posted by tansphil on 11 Nov 2019

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    Eric

    No, what's wrong with it?

    Posted by Eric on 11 Nov 2019

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    BerryBear

    I don't think it needs to be banned but instead of the footballers doing it a traditional Maori representative could do it.

    Posted by BerryBear on 11 Nov 2019

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    philip

    No i dont think it should be banned but i do think the national anthem is good enough,and then lets get on with it,"blow that whistle ref,blow that whistle"!!! phil

    Posted by philip on 11 Nov 2019

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    vero

    no, I think it is a great display of national pride. The passion they show when performing the Haka is heartwarming unlike the pathetic attempt I see our sport people mouthing our national anthem. It is like we have been conditioned to be ashamed to be a proud Australian (like it is politically incorrect these days to take pride in our country)

    Posted by vero on 11 Nov 2019

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    Right Weis

    Why all of a sudden people want to BANNED the NZ Haka? The Haka is the only way for other countrys to beat NZ because after doing a Haka the boys a tied, if NZ didnt do a Haka then rugby will be boring because NZ will alway be number 1.

    Posted by Right Weis on 11 Nov 2019

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    Huia

    As a proud Maori Wahine (woman) who is very grateful for my ancestors standing up for who we are as an indigenous culture, and leading the way for us as people to showcase who we are as a proud nation. Every country has their own way of celebrating who they are. The Haka is a tradition handed down from our ancestors and has been apart of ruby culture from the very beginning. The All Blacks are known are the world for our traditional dance and we would not change for any country. It is apart of our history and current way of live. Another country, or another nation has no right to tell us as proud people of New Zealand to stops being who we are. How would the English like it if we told them to stop doing any a traditional event. We do not have the right as people from another nation.

    Posted by Huia on 10 Nov 2019

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    medusa 12

    Yes please do enforce the laws for it’s like a book unless u open the cover u don’t know what is inside the pages of a book and same with the haka it could be some criminal in disguise or a male u can never judge what under the covers

    Posted by medusa 12 on 10 Nov 2019

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    Karauria

    please look into our culture actually ALL PACIFIC ISLAND Cultures before you write your comment if you dont know maybe its a good idea to look into it.

    Posted by Karauria on 10 Nov 2019

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    Ulysses

    Absolutely NOT. I love the Haka. Banning it would be like banning the bagpipes or the didgeridoo. It stirs my soul to watch, and I'm not a Kiwi.

    Posted by Ulysses on 10 Nov 2019

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    mishaman65

    No way should the hakka be banned as it is a part of their culture and their history but i also think it was not right how the english got fined for doing what they did, its pretty much the same.

    Posted by mishaman65 on 09 Nov 2019

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    Warren

    No the hakka should not be banned. It is a part of the new Zealand heritage and culture. And it is something they have always done before a match. And I personally think it's awesome to watch

    Posted by Warren on 09 Nov 2019

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    Jodie

    No I believe that all cultures should be able to dress,pray,talk,Live and share with other culture's

    Posted by Jodie on 09 Nov 2019

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    Huib

    Kiwis are addicted to the stupid "war cry" and follow it like sheep it means "it's death it's life it's death it's life, this is the hairy man who caused the sun to shine again for me,up the ladder up the ladder, Up to the top where the sun shines" wow and then they stick their tongues out with a hateful face. And this is "tradition" that needs to be followed by sheep?... It is clear that most reactions here are posted by kiwi sheep that talk about culture? If anyone would "greet" me like that I would moon them, or teams should just go to the other side of the field and ignore them but no sporting body should be fined for not watching a bunch of fanatics doing silly boring "war dances" like a bunch of school children that refuse to grow up Culture my foot! I guess there is just one thing kiwis are good at, RUGBY but that's all... but a war dance...? come on kiwis, time to join the 21st century YES BAN THE STUPID HAKA meaning stupid words and just play the one and only game you are good at and stop demanding time to try and intimidate your opponents

    Posted by Huib on 09 Nov 2019

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    Karauria

    Sounds like somebody who is uncultured and boring would write this comment we are a small country who excell in ALOT of sports if you dont mind and WORLD CHAMPIONS on every level of sport how about you sit back relax and let our tiny nation keep on KICKING ass in everything and anythings its how we roll

    Posted by Karauria on 10 Nov 2019

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    Huia

    So what cultural background do you come from if any? Grown men to feel threatened by a simple war dance is ridiculous!! You are not worthy of the haka so you need not worry about being faced by one. No kiwi would waste their time on you.

    Posted by Huia on 10 Nov 2019

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    Ulysses

    You need to get a life. Your intelligence is probably questionable if your reaction is to "moon them". If you are around 15 years old, then maybe I can understand where you are coming from. If you are older than 20, then you have the emotional & mental intelligence of an emerging fungus.

    Posted by Ulysses on 10 Nov 2019

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    Cassius

    Yes, it is an NZ cultural icon but it is also intimidates the opposition. That does confer an unfair advantage. By all means let is continue but don't expect opposition teams to stand there and PUT UP WITH IT. The opposition team should not leave the sheds until the haka is finished.

    Posted by Cassius on 09 Nov 2019

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    Stafsta

    Hell no.the Haka should not be baned.why would you ban it.if they did i wouldn't like to be in Auckland or the whole country for that matter.and i wouldn't blame them if they did go off.

    Posted by Stafsta on 09 Nov 2019

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    Rellie

    Seriously this country is becoming a joke the haka has been around for m a many many years and its for the all blacks

    Posted by Rellie on 09 Nov 2019

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    Karauria

    no love its not for the all blacks please read more or watch vids about my culture because YOU are the joke here at the moment

    Posted by Karauria on 10 Nov 2019

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    Zeba

    No Haka should not be banned as it has demonstrated the Maori heritage and culture. It can be offending the Maori society and bring disharmony .

    Posted by Zeba on 09 Nov 2019

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    ollady

    It's great to watch, I think everyone enjoys watching them do their Hakka

    Posted by ollady on 09 Nov 2019

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    Monna

    No! it is a big part of New Zealand heritage, and should always remain

    Posted by Monna on 09 Nov 2019

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    wads

    Yes it should be stopped because it always sounds like a war cry, the way they look at the opposition is intimidating. Why opposition teams have to stand still and silent during it. Australia should get Adam Goodes to do his spear dance whenever we play New Zealand.

    Posted by wads on 09 Nov 2019

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    Karauria

    well that is a great idea sadly Australia has alot to answer for there treatment of the indigenous peoples of the land as do we in AOTEAROA or New Zealand we respect other cultures all over the planet because we all have similar mythologys you could say.Oh and in everything we do we except challenges from all cultures from around the world thats how we all roll.

    Posted by Karauria on 10 Nov 2019

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    Huia

    I agree all countries who would like to do their own cultural dance will be given the same respect. It’s great for the sport

    Posted by Huia on 10 Nov 2019

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    Pat

    no it shouldnt countries culture

    Posted by Pat on 09 Nov 2019

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    biggest

    You are kidding. It would not be the same without the Haka. Unfair advantage?? No way. Leave the Haka alone.

    Posted by biggest on 09 Nov 2019

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    Jean

    Absolutely NOT! We love that word ‘ban’, don’t we?

    Posted by Jean on 09 Nov 2019

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    Yoshitaka

    It’s a Maori culture so that I respect their action of Hama.

    Posted by Yoshitaka on 09 Nov 2019

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    GeesOpinion

    Yes. It doesn't need to be played out at every game. How about they sing the anthem of their country and be done with it.

    Posted by GeesOpinion on 09 Nov 2019

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    Xenia

    If our team is intimidated by a dance then we need to find a new team really fast. Besides it’s a great tradition of a great people and who are we to deny them that?? Wake up to yourselves. Grow up. Do your job and play and stop making excuses for a poor performance ay. May the best team win !!!

    Posted by Xenia on 09 Nov 2019

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    zoedog66

    Absolute rubbish - of course it shouldn't be banned. It is an important part of the game. If other teams think it should be banned, they should try their own war dances or rituals. I find it offensive to suggest it should be banned.

    Posted by zoedog66 on 09 Nov 2019

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    WW#1

    No, it shouldn't be banned. It's extremely entertaining, interesting & enjoyable to watch & an exciting tradition to fire up before the game.

    Posted by WW#1 on 09 Nov 2019

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    Kira

    no its their tradition, leave well enough alone.

    Posted by Kira on 08 Nov 2019

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    Faye

    Ban the Haka? Are you serious. I love watching it. No it should NOT be banned

    Posted by Faye on 08 Nov 2019

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    john

    Banned? Absolutely NOT. If a team feels intimidated by a by a dance of another culture, it's time they stopped playing.

    Posted by john on 08 Nov 2019

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    Ulysses

    Amen to that.

    Posted by Ulysses on 10 Nov 2019

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    kosi23

    absolutely not it is a traditional dance which has been around for years. if the English can't handle it then that's their problem. I love watching the Haka performed and wish that Aboriginal tribal dances could be regularly performed at Australian sporting events not just in Indigenous rounds

    Posted by kosi23 on 08 Nov 2019

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    mact

    Good Lord no... It's kinda cute and important to all Kiwis and does no more harm than barracking from the stands. Adam Goodes should choreograph one for Aussie Teams to enact at AFL/RUGBY /SOCCER!!

    Posted by mact on 08 Nov 2019

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    rose. and petal

    yes outside the home

    Posted by rose. and petal on 08 Nov 2019

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    Madmarty008

    No. It is a cultural tradition.

    Posted by Madmarty008 on 08 Nov 2019

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    taniap

    Banned to satisfy the Northern Hemisphere media? Because they're scared of it? Of course not. Other teams can challenge it however they want. Just don't cross the halfway line. Read what former Springbok captain John Smit had to say - "For me the haka and for South Africans it's a privilege. When you're playing against the All Blacks you know you've sort of got to the pinnacle of what your career is – playing for your country and facing the Kiwis."

    Posted by taniap on 08 Nov 2019

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    A. Cina

    The Haka is great to watch and must be empowering to perform too. Other teams could make their warm up more vocal as well or make a dance in reply to the Haka. I think it's awesome to see these powerfull men "dancing"

    Posted by A. Cina on 08 Nov 2019

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    MxMarciaRts

    Ban it?!? What for???

    Posted by MxMarciaRts on 08 Nov 2019

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    Gael

    NO it has always been part of NZ game

    Posted by Gael on 08 Nov 2019

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    Hieme

    Don't ban it. I think it is hilarious!

    Posted by Hieme on 08 Nov 2019

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    Jen

    No I love the Hakka kinda hot

    Posted by Jen on 08 Nov 2019

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    Mr. Banana

    No. Its been around too long now for some countries to suddenly 'not want it'.

    Posted by Mr. Banana on 08 Nov 2019

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    robin

    Yes for international games.. .I like the Haka but if it is allowed then so should evry contoury be given the same right for their trations

    Posted by robin on 08 Nov 2019

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    Bob

    The Haka is a ceremonial dance and should be contained to this. Yes, I believe that it should not be used for International competitions or games as it is not part of the true culture that they are within and representing. Keep it as a ceremonial thing for their own culture.

    Posted by Bob on 08 Nov 2019

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    medusa 12

    Yes I think it should bannEd

    Posted by medusa 12 on 08 Nov 2019

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    medusa 12

    Yes it should be banned for they could be excrinsls wearing it and no one can recognise them

    Posted by medusa 12 on 08 Nov 2019

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    Nkosicat1377

    No way as it is a maori tradition that ads to the spirit of the game and should be respected! Phil

    Posted by Nkosicat1377 on 08 Nov 2019

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    lordofthekitchen

    What are you afraid of, it's fun much better than Morris dancing, grow up

    Posted by lordofthekitchen on 07 Nov 2019

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    Phil_k

    Unless the English Rugby Team are allowed to perform the Macarena opposite the All Black's Haka, then sure, it should be banned.

    Posted by Phil_k on 07 Nov 2019

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    Joseph

    Part of the entertainment

    Posted by Joseph on 07 Nov 2019

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    fed

    No no no it makes the game.

    Posted by fed on 07 Nov 2019

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    URBANANGEL

    I love the haka,it always gives me goosebumps

    Posted by URBANANGEL on 07 Nov 2019

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    OpalOne

    Should The Haka Be Banned? Yes, unless the Poms can have their "V" for Victory. England have been fined £2000 by World Rugby for crossing the halfway line as the players formed a V-shape to face the haka before their semi-final victory over New Zealand. World Rugby rules stipulate teams must remain within their own half of the pitch to receive the challenge.Oct 30, 2019 England fined for advancing beyond halfway line to form V ... https://www.telegraph.co.uk › rugby-world-cup › 2019/10/30 ›

    Posted by OpalOne on 07 Nov 2019

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    A. Cina

    Thanks for explaining what really happened✔️

    Posted by A. Cina on 08 Nov 2019

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    mysteron347

    Why should NZ be the only team allowed this licence? I like the haka, but after all, it's ceremony - not part of the game. The response should not be fettered by rules made for one team. Either allow everyone to respond as they wish, or allow no-one to break into non-game-related theatrics. What I'd like to see is the bombasts who came up with their interpretations of the rules be banned. Any theatrics from either team should be allowed up until the officials arrive on the field when each time must retire to its own half to commence the game and the theatrics should cease.

    Posted by mysteron347 on 08 Nov 2019

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    C.W.

    NO its part of NZ culture and everyone except the english like it !

    Posted by C.W. on 07 Nov 2019

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    Buddy0119

    No it should not be banned as this is there culture.

    Posted by Buddy0119 on 07 Nov 2019

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    Klangdang1

    Who came up with this hare-brained Idea and who is going to tell our New Zealand mates what they can and can't do. Someone needs to get a real life.

    Posted by Klangdang1 on 07 Nov 2019

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    Barry

    No the Haka is a time honored Maori ceremonial presentation at various events around the world and identifies the competitive spirit of New Zealand. So much better than observing Australian sporting sides who can't remember or sing our National Anthem at game events. I am always impressed at ANZAC Day events and when the Kiwis perform the Haka.

    Posted by Barry on 07 Nov 2019

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    Leata

    Absolutely not. Rather make sure that the teams the All Blacks are playing are aware of how disrespectful they are to not face them while they are doing the haka.

    Posted by Leata on 07 Nov 2019

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    Greg

    NO if you were going to ban it. It should have been done when they first started to do it Internationally. 70 or 80 years ago.

    Posted by Greg on 07 Nov 2019

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    Lynne

    No The Haka should NOT be banned it is an essential part of New Zealand Heritage

    Posted by Lynne on 07 Nov 2019

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    Kevin

    I don't think so. It's part of Maori tradition and therefore part of New Zealand's history.

    Posted by Kevin on 07 Nov 2019

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    Tracey

    No it’s a tradition not offensive at all

    Posted by Tracey on 07 Nov 2019

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    catmanpolly

    It is disrespectful to the opponents - would like somebody screaming in an aggressive manner just before they try to pulverise you? When there is some reaction to it - then boo hoo from NZers

    Posted by catmanpolly on 07 Nov 2019

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    algemyone

    Maybe England should have done a Morris Dance in response. Equally amusing and for the same original reason.

    Posted by algemyone on 07 Nov 2019

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    algemyone

    No, it's a national tradition and is quite harmless. Does't affect the outcome, and is quite funny to watch (unless you are a Kiwi).

    Posted by algemyone on 07 Nov 2019

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    Francine

    The Hakka is a traditional dance of New Zealand. Growing up schools always had a "war cry" in sporting competitions; so I don't see any harm in the Hakka.

    Posted by Francine on 07 Nov 2019

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    Andrew

    No and to suggest it is just plain silly and possibly racist

    Posted by Andrew on 07 Nov 2019

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    Heather

    No I don’t think the Haka should be banned...All countries have their own Haka or ceremony song... stop being so sensitive or political correct...live life a little...

    Posted by Heather on 07 Nov 2019

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    Trevor

    Lets ban everything that some minorities dont like good idea , i hope they like the shirt i am going to wear who do i contact to make sure its okay to go outside this summer .

    Posted by Trevor on 07 Nov 2019

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    Helen

    I THINK THAT IF WE KEEP BANNING THESE TRADITIONS LIKE THE HAKA, (WHICH IS ALSO DONE BY OTHER INDIVIDUAL ISLANDER PEOPLE, ALTHOUGH BY DIFFERENT NAMES) WE WILL END UP WITH NO TRADITIONS AT ALL. BESIDES I LOVE THE HAKA

    Posted by Helen on 07 Nov 2019

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    Jacqui

    No. We are very proud of the haka. Leave it alone. Very boring with ” no theatre”

    Posted by Jacqui on 07 Nov 2019

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    Offspring

    No - but opposition teams should be free to react as they wish - within reason.

    Posted by Offspring on 07 Nov 2019

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    Deb1311

    No I don't believe so.

    Posted by Deb1311 on 07 Nov 2019

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    chickenhead

    It should be allowed as long as opposition teams can display their own expression of aggression in return, eg, mooning them would be a possibility

    Posted by chickenhead on 07 Nov 2019

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    Corcol

    The Haka, by definition, is a declaration of war. Whilst I am not against the Haka being performed, I think it is ridiculous by not allowing the opposing team to react to this declaration of war in any manner they prefer (short of interrupting the performance of the Haka)

    Posted by Corcol on 07 Nov 2019

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    Horn

    What rubbish this survey is , the N/Z teams would not be the same without the Haka , it is wonderful , colourful and Maori culture , I am Australian through & through , however I must admit that I love the Haka . Some other competitors are even trying to emulate the Kiwis . Keep it going I say .

    Posted by Horn on 07 Nov 2019

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    Elaine

    Definitely not

    Posted by Elaine on 07 Nov 2019

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    Tonniey

    I don't wish it to be banned.

    Posted by Tonniey on 06 Nov 2019

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    Hilton

    Dare to be different. Where is the tolerance and acceptance of others? Ban, definitely not !!!

    Posted by Hilton on 06 Nov 2019

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    Monte

    No, Cultural Heritage, Simple. This is Honour in the Highest Respect.

    Posted by Monte on 06 Nov 2019

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    Bumperandrobbie

    It's so beautiful watching the haka performance what is wrong with people

    Posted by Bumperandrobbie on 06 Nov 2019

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    nimpy

    I like to watch it, but must say that if all the teams did something similar it might be a problem. Why should NZ be the only team allowed to.

    Posted by nimpy on 06 Nov 2019

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    lukeyff23

    no its tradition. In any match of sports, you are literally going to war with another team. So for them this is their war. I like it and it attracts alot of people to come and support both sides and be able to show the display of the mighty all blacks team in whatever sport they are taking part in.

    Posted by lukeyff23 on 06 Nov 2019

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    Brinny 5

    Yeah, ban it, it's a wardance

    Posted by Brinny 5 on 06 Nov 2019

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    Monte

    It is a cellibatory chant, prayer for the thanks for life and the sorrow for loss of a life, their own and others both innocent it was commonly "heard" as a war chant but also Sung as a sorrowful hymn for many occasions of tradition Belonging to us.

    Posted by Monte on 06 Nov 2019

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    Fay

    Idon't think it shoudl be banned, it is a ceremony off challenge that used to happen when other races off people visited New Zealand shores, there are many different types off Haka and the one the football teams usually do is meant to instill fear into their opponents.

    Posted by Fay on 06 Nov 2019

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    Moongold

    Yes - or allow every other nation's players to also hold dances/songs/music/drama whenever they play! The English could play classical music, eastern Indians hold Indian dances/music, Aborigines perform in native paint with didgeridoos, Russians perhaps a ballet - ridiculous, isn't it? No-one else gets this permitted, so why should the Maoris? It's therefore discriminatory, for a start - and come on - rugby or any other sport is about the GAME, not dancing/singing/chanting or whatever! G

    Posted by Moongold on 06 Nov 2019

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    Katie

    No bloody way. I love the Haka if it part of their cultural tradition they should be allowed to perform it. I don't think it gives New Zealand an advantage at all.

    Posted by Katie on 06 Nov 2019

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    Noels1968

    Oh My God, what else is the world going to complain about next! sheesh :(

    Posted by Noels1968 on 06 Nov 2019

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    Buddy0119

    iIts there tradition why would we want to ban it

    Posted by Buddy0119 on 06 Nov 2019

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    UncleBluey

    Those damn Poms are always whinging about something!!

    Posted by UncleBluey on 06 Nov 2019

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    Sugar Ray

    Sorry, didn't read the description above. Of course the Poms would want to claim it gives an opposing team the advantage, they just always want to win. I thought the yanks were sore losers at everything, but the Poms are far worse, plus they whinge at everything anyway. Maybe they should ask the Queen what she thinks, because she seems to enjoy it when she is welcomed to NZ with a Haka.

    Posted by Sugar Ray on 06 Nov 2019

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    Sugar Ray

    What the ?????? It's a traditional thing from New Zealand, who wants to ban it??

    Posted by Sugar Ray on 06 Nov 2019

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    Alison

    How silly. No it doesn't need to be banned. How does it give them an advantage?!

    Posted by Alison on 06 Nov 2019

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    Paul

    haka not needed to be banned been doing for so long opposing teams take no notice anyway

    Posted by Paul on 06 Nov 2019

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    Marina

    No its traditional value for the New Zealanders If that needs to be banned so should other things

    Posted by Marina on 06 Nov 2019

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    dadh01

    Definitely not This is a long standing tradition welcome that should encouraged to keep a difference from the teams such as the All Blacks to the rest of the teams they face. Why would you ban it? Some one needs to get a Life!

    Posted by dadh01 on 06 Nov 2019

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    flowerpot

    No, it is traditional let them have their fun!

    Posted by flowerpot on 06 Nov 2019

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    DevChap

    They didn't get fined for their reaction. They got fined for crossing the halfway line. Plenty of other teams have reacted to the Haka without breaking the rules of the game.

    Posted by DevChap on 06 Nov 2019

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    SafetyCross

    There is no problem with New Zealand doing the Haka, they allow time for it. But I see no issue with opposing teams walking towards New Zealand while they are doing it as this shows that they are not afraid of the “attacking” team. To penalise them for it was ridiculous. I would like to see other Countries come up with their own custom like how Australia now stand in a defensive V Shape during the Haka. This is Australia showing that they are reading to “defend” against the “attacking” team.

    Posted by SafetyCross on 06 Nov 2019

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    Tonyporritt

    Yes it should be banned. It just shows the participants as savages and should NOT be on a SPORTS field.

    Posted by Tonyporritt on 06 Nov 2019

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    musicveg

    I don't see why it should be banned, not different from having a bunch of cheerleaders doing a dance but it has more meaning than cheerleaders. I am not a rugby fan so it does not matter to me personally.

    Posted by musicveg on 06 Nov 2019

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    Kenneth E.

    The original haka used by the all Blacks was Ka mate ka mate kora kora it was the Haka of Maori Chieftan Te Rauparaha, who caused the British colonists in the mid 18th century more than a little grief, and was used by the All Blacks until 2005, when a special Haka was written for the All Blacks, "Kapo o Pango" which is the one currently performed. Kapo o Pango roughly translates as "All Blacks" Some have objected to the gesture in this haka of drawing the finger across the throat, as a threat to kill, but to t the concluding movement is actually a Māori symbol of drawing vital energy into the body that fitted the spirit of the haka. I much preferred the Ka mate haka, it has greater significance and more energy, we learned it at intermediate school in New Zealand from out teacher Matt Te Heu, a Maori Kamatua, along with several other hakas, ( including Maugu mangu taipo - Black Black Devil) as part of learning about indigenous. culture. I am a 4th generation white New Zealander, my great grandfather was one of the pioneering farmers in the Waikato, at Rotokauri, and I believe it is important to learn about one's nation's indigenous culture and respect it. Maori culture is unique to New Zealand, it is who and what we are Maori and Pakeha, who after conflicts and a somewhat rough beginning have come together to form a proud nation. Rugby is in the New Zealand DNA,when I was growing up in the late 1940s and 1950s, all boys played Rugby Union, it was virtually compulsory, and all young boys aspired to be an All Black. Today, New Zealand has a greater pool of Rugby talent than any other Rugby playing Nation, in spite of a population of only 4.5 million. I used to be the secretary of Pakuranga United Rugby Club in Auckland, and every Saturday in the season we fielded 39 Junior teams (age 6 -19) we were just 1 of 20 clubs in the Auckland Union, and there are 3 Unions in the greater Auckland area (slightly smaller than greater Brisbane). As well as the Saturday club competitions there is a very strong inter secondary school competition - no nation is so strongly permeated with the spirit of Rugby Union. The All Blacks didn't win the World Cup this year, but in 4 years time they will be back as strong as ever, with new blood, Up and coming talented players are a commodity New Zealand has in abundance, the problems is the selectors are spoiled for choice, and it requires a set back to bring on new talent and give the younger players a chance to prove their mettle and develop. Back to the topic, the Haka is an integral part of New Zealand Maori culture and of the New Zealand All Blacks, it should be retained, I would favour reverting to Ka mate ka mate but I guess that won't happen. For the Aussies who feel the Wallabies should be the future, Australian Rugby Union is handicapped by the dominance of Rugby League, that is where the majority of the talent goes, that is where the strongest competition in Australia is, and that is why Australia are the world champions in that code. Rugby Union is the dominant Winter Sport in New Zealand, South Africa, Wales and the Pacific Islands(who punch well above their population numbers Internationally)

    Posted by Kenneth E. on 06 Nov 2019

  • [0] [0]
    Monte

    Sir Your view is wielding of Traditional Value and great aspect of Knowledge pretty well sums up Heritage and Tradition with Value.

    Posted by Monte on 06 Nov 2019

  • [0] [1]
    musicveg

    Great insight to the history, meaning and importance, I never knew what it was about being and ignorant white Australian.

    Posted by musicveg on 06 Nov 2019

  • [1] [1]
    Benjamin

    No it's their tradition

    Posted by Benjamin on 05 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    slaven

    of course not. It is a celebration of their heritage and is often more entertaining than the match that follows.

    Posted by slaven on 05 Nov 2019

  • [0] [0]
    Chrysler

    Know.its what the guy's do to scare the shite out of there opponents.fill stop

    Posted by Chrysler on 05 Nov 2019

  • [1] [9]
    Pussy

    Yes it should, this is Australia not New Zealand

    Posted by Pussy on 05 Nov 2019

  • [1] [0]
    Bob

    You said it all above , performed at a number of different ceremonies , NOT because they have nothing else !!. So , Not banned just moderated to religious or traditional ceremonies , personally I go do something else every time they do it , I do not mean to offend , just over it being done every single time in everyplace for no particular reason.

    Posted by Bob on 05 Nov 2019

  • [5] [1]
    Kerry

    No it's the most entertaining part of a rugby match. Maori culture should be celebrated and enjoyed. Haven't the white people already taken enough from them?

    Posted by Kerry on 05 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    timothy

    No it shouldn't it what make the game

    Posted by timothy on 05 Nov 2019

  • [3] [1]
    SOLEDAD

    Should not be banned

    Posted by SOLEDAD on 05 Nov 2019

  • [5] [1]
    sonya

    If you stop the Haka you should also stop the national anthems at all sport events. Fair is fair. They aren't hurting anyone by doing it. How Ridiculous!

    Posted by sonya on 05 Nov 2019

  • [3] [1]
    Mary-Anne

    Should not be banned, is tradition

    Posted by Mary-Anne on 05 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    Graeme

    No no no. Makes the NZ team/culture something special.

    Posted by Graeme on 05 Nov 2019

  • [5] [0]
    Mum of 2

    No way!! Its a part of NZ/maori culture and should be respected

    Posted by Mum of 2 on 05 Nov 2019

  • [3] [11]
    Ron

    Yes it should be banned. It is stupid and makes the players look like neanderthals

    Posted by Ron on 05 Nov 2019

  • [0] [2]
    specialk333333333

    I don't see any reason it should be banned, I love watching the Haka and it's part of their culture, just cause we lack culture........

    Posted by specialk333333333 on 05 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    Kitty SlamHer

    No if New Zealand want to do it and they have forever been doing it then they can !!!!!

    Posted by Kitty SlamHer on 05 Nov 2019

  • [3] [1]
    Ralph

    Absolutly not. It is part of NZ cultural heritage.

    Posted by Ralph on 05 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    Rugbratzmum

    I love the Haka and no it shouldn’t be banned

    Posted by Rugbratzmum on 05 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    MonkeyMagik

    All Black’s haka war cry is AWSOME!!

    Posted by MonkeyMagik on 05 Nov 2019

  • [4] [0]
    David

    A couple of them went over halfway while the Haka was being performed, they did not act the goat, call out insults, in fact showed respect, Change the rules, let the All Blacks have their traditional war game. No one ran away scared, get on with the game

    Posted by David on 05 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    Rosie765

    Absolutely Not! We should celebrate our First People by having a similar Corroboree before matches

    Posted by Rosie765 on 05 Nov 2019

  • [0] [0]
    coaster

    I think you will find a Corroboree is not for public consumption.

    Posted by coaster on 05 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    hardbags

    no, political correctness gone mad..again.

    Posted by hardbags on 05 Nov 2019

  • [1] [1]
    Dale

    Rugby started without the Haka so I believe it will continue without it also.

    Posted by Dale on 05 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    Purplejulie

    Leave the Haka alone, it is culturally significant and brings a great sense of theatre and excitement to the games. Let the British do their own 'ritual' prior to a game if they wish... possibly '12 Little Maids Are We'... ☺

    Posted by Purplejulie on 05 Nov 2019

  • [1] [1]
    shas49

    The Haka is a kiwi icon and should not be banned from any occasions where it can be performed. We would be happy to see other countries to do their ceremonial welcome.

    Posted by shas49 on 05 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    Ruru

    I absolutely HATE rugby but I LOVE New Zealand. The Haka is part of the New Zealand culture and should always be performed before anything.

    Posted by Ruru on 05 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    fwangg1

    don't really care

    Posted by fwangg1 on 05 Nov 2019

  • [1] [0]
    timothy

    No that the hipe before the game

    Posted by timothy on 05 Nov 2019

  • [3] [0]
    Murray

    NO. In fact, I prefer seeing the Samoan, Tongan, Fijian, and any other samples too.

    Posted by Murray on 04 Nov 2019

  • [3] [2]
    Kerry

    No way. Best thing about the rugby! As an Aussie I would rather watch it than wallabies any day..

    Posted by Kerry on 04 Nov 2019

  • [3] [1]
    M

    No it should not be banned.. It is such a wonderful thing to see.

    Posted by M on 04 Nov 2019

  • [3] [1]
    Bashir

    No it should not be banned.

    Posted by Bashir on 04 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    Maureen

    Certainly not

    Posted by Maureen on 04 Nov 2019

  • [3] [1]
    Natalee

    No definitely not! The Haka should continue to be celebrated as it is part their culture. Best start to any game ... if it's found intimidating by an opposing team then something is lacking in them. I also think there's been an over reaction by fining the English team.. Wow stepping over the centre line also seen as intimidating and not within the rules.. really? Come on.. maybe an error of judgement by stepping over the line but fining them??.. That's ridiculous.. come on let's play ball and stop this folly and enjoy the sport!

    Posted by Natalee on 04 Nov 2019

  • [3] [4]
    Margaret

    Yes ban it as a Kiwi i'm over it

    Posted by Margaret on 04 Nov 2019

  • [2] [2]
    Rosa

    It should be celebrated - white people should get their own chant

    Posted by Rosa on 04 Nov 2019

  • [4] [2]
    Pattiesbear

    Ban the Haka, what a load of rubbish. It has been around for decades and is recognised all around the world

    Posted by Pattiesbear on 04 Nov 2019

  • [2] [3]
    Pamela

    Absolutely not. I think it's beautiful to watch... This is a ridiculous and racist question.

    Posted by Pamela on 04 Nov 2019

  • [2] [2]
    albabe246

    No - but the English team should not be fined,

    Posted by albabe246 on 04 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    Sebastion

    Not sure why you would ban a culture

    Posted by Sebastion on 04 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    labrys

    Definitly not

    Posted by labrys on 04 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    old sheila

    No !!!!!!

    Posted by old sheila on 04 Nov 2019

  • [0] [1]
    Pedro24

    No. Consider it entertainment like the "smoking ceremonies".

    Posted by Pedro24 on 04 Nov 2019

  • [2] [1]
    Amy

    No!!! It’s belongs in all kiwis. It’s a traditional warrior song/dance that is important to Nz.

    Posted by Amy on 04 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    TanButt

    No, why should us Kiwis refrain or be banned from performing a haka just because someone says so, if they want to do a jig or some other kind of dance before their match no one's stopping them, it may be an unfair advantage to some people, however we don't win every single match after the haka is done.

    Posted by TanButt on 04 Nov 2019

  • [3] [1]
    stormbringer1

    no way. watching the kiwi all-blacks haka is the best bit of rugby union. l think it, as well as the other pacific nations that do it, are great visuals. lt would be cool if Australia could reply with an aboridginal war dance

    Posted by stormbringer1 on 04 Nov 2019

  • [3] [1]
    katzeye

    No it is part of a tradition that has been around for many years with the All Blacks so why ban it now.PC crap all over again.

    Posted by katzeye on 04 Nov 2019

  • [2] [0]
    Sunshine45

    It should definitely not be banned - the Welsh sing etc etc Don't let this change because of a few.

    Posted by Sunshine45 on 06 Nov 2019

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