Should The Blood Alcohol Limit Be Zero?


Last week a drunk driver allegedly lost control of a car and tragically killed four children. Recently a high-profile fitness influencer was caught driving with her young son in the back seat, with a BAC of 0.08. Experts have called for there to be tighter restrictions on driving after drinking alcohol. There are a number of countries that have a zero blood alcohol limit when driving, do you think Australia should adopt a similar stance? Is it ever okay to drive after drinking?

Posted by on 05 Feb 2020

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    JACKSPRATT27

    I'd hate to see my pensioner friend who loves to go to the RSL and have a beer & meal with his mates house bound because he cant afford a taxi fare there and back. I just dont believe this will work for the main offenders. They will still try to get away with it no matter what. It would create a nightmare for the already stretched police resources inocent readings (EG some Medications register) and penalise people that are responsible enough to stay below 0.05. So I say No

    Posted by JACKSPRATT27 on 26 Feb 2020

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    Helen

    I think all vehicle drivers should have a zero alcohol level. Truck drivers and other heavy vehicle operators have a zero blood alcohol level requirement so why not all road users.

    Posted by Helen on 16 Feb 2020

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    Rebecca

    It just wouldn’t work.imagine having to deal with all the people who went over the 0.0 limit?

    Posted by Rebecca on 16 Feb 2020

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    Living free.

    Some countries that have zero tolerance also confiscate your car on your first offence - no second chances. Drink and drive and say bye bye to your privileged transportation. Now that'll work I believe to stop 2nd offenders. Unfortunately the 'do gooders' will try to fight this law being introduced.

    Posted by Living free. on 12 Feb 2020

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    Who? Me?

    So don't have a slice of tiramasu cake or take any cough medicine because that will put you over the .00 limit. It would make more sense to introduce laws which imposed much heavier penalties. Forget the various classes of DUI - low range mid range etc. It could be just a blanket policy, you exceed .05 and you lose your car, your licence and you do a minimum 5 years in gaol. The hiigher your reading, the longer you spend behind bars. There should be no extenuating circumstances.

    Posted by Who? Me? on 16 Feb 2020

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    Michael

    No law is going to stop the person. They going to do it regardless. It's just a piece of paper. Just makes it inconvenient for people having a beer at lunch or a glass of wine. Responsible people will be responsible. Idiots will be idiots...

    Posted by Michael on 12 Feb 2020

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    Tiny2306

    The facts are that driving under the influence of alcohol is proven to reduce your driving skills, hazard awareness and reaction time etc. Therefore I would say zero alcohol. The real issue is enforcing it

    Posted by Tiny2306 on 12 Feb 2020

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    Barry

    In most cases yes. And no it isn't OK to drink and drive. But that won't stop the idiot who has lost his licence for DUI, got behind the wheel and killed innocent people. The TV programs are awash with the deadbeats caught driving with no licence. The law abiding people have no defence or protection against these grubs.

    Posted by Barry on 11 Feb 2020

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    Ulysses

    I try my best never to drive after I've had alchohol, however, on maybe 3 occasions in each 5ish year period, I have had a light beer, or small glass of wine, and driven. I feel it's grossly unfair to sensible people who stay way under .05 to bring in .00 laws, just because some drunken fuckwit got behind the wheel with a high BAC. People like that have a problem, and they would drive no matter what the limit is. Give them huge fines, and big amounts of gaol time. Don't penalize people like me that might have 1 drink, and who are very unlikely to cause an accident. What about using your phone while driving, driving tired, these are bigger issues than driving under .05.

    Posted by Ulysses on 11 Feb 2020

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    Josephine

    Zero alcohol No way should we "indulge" and get behind the wheel

    Posted by Josephine on 11 Feb 2020

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    Pamela

    YES we should have a zero blood alcohol limit. If you drink you should not be allowed to drive. It is never OK to drive after drinking.

    Posted by Pamela on 11 Feb 2020

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    Achol

    I personally think Alcohol shouldn't be allowed but I understand people may drink it with no harm such as drinking at occasional events. But no i don't think it is ever okay to drink because if we allow it to happen than were just getting in and letting people recklessly losing their lives and than people find someone to blame such as the government which also brings conflict.

    Posted by Achol on 11 Feb 2020

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    Sherralynne

    Living in New Zealand, we he reduced our blood alcohol limits and we still have drivers getting behind the wheel. I wish we could stop this from happening and struggle to find a way to put words into action. It's a sad enditement on our societies.

    Posted by Sherralynne on 11 Feb 2020

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    christina

    yes zero alcohol when driving

    Posted by christina on 11 Feb 2020

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    dizzyspell

    YES NO ALCOHOL WHEN DRIVING

    Posted by dizzyspell on 11 Feb 2020

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    Stella del Mattino

    No amount of laws, fines and restrictions will ever deter irresponsible people, in any field for that matters.

    Posted by Stella del Mattino on 11 Feb 2020

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    4wheelbitch

    Agreed 100%. no matter what the law is those so inclined will break it no matter what it says. Also remember every single new law no matter what it is beyond the very barest basics of laws such as against murder, rape assault, theft all remove a little more liberty. Liberty, which is what many of our forefathers fought and died for so that we may have and many of us revere those fallen every ANZAC day and remembrance day.

    Posted by 4wheelbitch on 11 Feb 2020

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    4wheelbitch

    what i would suggest however if a person drinks and drives or does anything else irresponsible while driving and is involved in an at fault accident then they must pay restitution to the person or family they have harmed. That could be in the form of working it off even if it was the rest of their life or it could be paying for the persons medical expenses relating to the injury

    Posted by 4wheelbitch on 11 Feb 2020

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    snakelady

    P platers and truck drivers have a zero alcohol so yes I do agree with zero alcohol. But it wont stop them drinking and driving as the fines and gaol times are a joke. My sister was killed by a drunk driver and got weekend detention is that all a life is worth? The person that killed those 4 children should be locked away for life he took lives he should lose his freedom

    Posted by snakelady on 11 Feb 2020

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    Not_A_DoDo

    NO, there should be no driving or licence to drive if drinking, drugging or suffer from road rage.... We make too many excuses for children never grow up SAD

    Posted by Not_A_DoDo on 11 Feb 2020

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    Dusk2dawn

    There is no limit for drugs, you can't be only a little bit stoned. Any amount of any drug & you're in big trouble. Zero tolerance for drugs, zero tolerance for alcohol? Maybe drop the bac to 0.02. Fines need to higher, cars need to be impounded & repeat offenders need to be jailed. Harsher penalties seem to help in other countries. We have double demerit at holiday time. I think they should be all the time. It may be revenue raising, but if it works, so be it.

    Posted by Dusk2dawn on 11 Feb 2020

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    David

    If they want it to be so cars should be equipped with technology to erase the possibility of drunk people driving at all. They won’t do so because they would have to stop stealing people’s money.

    Posted by David on 11 Feb 2020

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    Terrym42

    No, it won't stop the idiots, bigger fines like taking the car & license off them, or maybe lift the limit so they will get so drunk they'll forget where they left the car so they get a taxi, after all they are idiots.

    Posted by Terrym42 on 11 Feb 2020

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    lordofthekitchen

    Why penalise the community for the few idiots, they will always exist, zero limit only raises revenue

    Posted by lordofthekitchen on 11 Feb 2020

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    Edward

    Yes as we enjoy alcohol we need to be responsible with and not do silly things such as driving for example. Their are others who do not deserve the fate of injuries or death from people who do drink.

    Posted by Edward on 11 Feb 2020

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    Horn

    Don't drink & drive period !!!!!

    Posted by Horn on 10 Feb 2020

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    Michael

    It will not stop drink drivers. They don't care what the limit is. It will provide additional revenue busting responsible people who only have 1 or 2 drinks

    Posted by Michael on 10 Feb 2020

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    Melissa

    Lowering the drinking limit to zero won’t work - habitual drinking drivers won’t care if the limit is zero or 0.5

    Posted by Melissa on 10 Feb 2020

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    Maudie

    No it doesn't need to change. Most responsible drivers are cautious and aware of their limit. It's other idiots who constantly break the limit. Why compomrise people from enjoying a social outing.

    Posted by Maudie on 10 Feb 2020

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    Hangdown

    No, leave the bac at .05. The reason being it is low enough. The honest driver can have one or maybe two and go home. Even at zero you will not stop the idiot who wants to drink and drive. Why penalise everyone.

    Posted by Hangdown on 10 Feb 2020

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    thedarf

    No of course it shouldn't. Would a zero BAC have stopped that guy driving drunk and taking those lives. Of course not. Will it stop anyone drink driving; of course not. You would be naive to think otherwise. Responsible people will be responsible. Irresponsible people will be irresponsible. This is a typical knee jerk reaction that governments like to see the masses focusing on while the real issues fall by the wayside.

    Posted by thedarf on 10 Feb 2020

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    Raskel

    any one how drinks alcohol or takes drugs should not drive a car, truck or motorbike. To many people get hurt by this actions and families left devastating.

    Posted by Raskel on 10 Feb 2020

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    KevinW

    No. There will always be a measurement issue. As analytical techniques improve, the detection limit will fall. It is unreasonable (unjust?) if a driver detects a zero BAC by a readily available technique, but forensic analysts can detect very low (non-zero) levels e.g. 0.001%, using high sensitivity (high cost) equipment. There should also be an equivalence between impairment caused by alcohol and that caused by other factors e.g. fatigue. We currently have no practical measurement of "excessive" fatigue.

    Posted by KevinW on 10 Feb 2020

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    kea21

    Yes the blood alcohol should definitely be zero! The same goes for drugs!

    Posted by kea21 on 10 Feb 2020

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    madmax

    wont make any difference to these morons, same as being unlicensed, unregistered and car unroadworthy - if they want to drive they will - short of a chip in their brain that stops the car starting, nothing will change maybe long jail time for minor offences is good!

    Posted by madmax on 10 Feb 2020

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    palgal

    Sure a good idea , no one can make a mistake that may kill some then . yes no driving with any drink in , 2 wines and l know l would not be the same behind the wheel if l drove soon as l drank them as l do not drink much at all.

    Posted by palgal on 10 Feb 2020

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    Brian

    Yes should be zero

    Posted by Brian on 10 Feb 2020

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    Old Man

    Requires to be zero reading.

    Posted by Old Man on 10 Feb 2020

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    Liz

    Yes it should be. But people who drink to excess dont care about drinking and driving so it wouldn't make any difference to them.

    Posted by Liz on 10 Feb 2020

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    Mohan

    No.If you are going to drink whilst out, have a designated driver or get a cab or Uber. Even if you had zero drink driver, you will get people that will still drink and drink.People have to take responsibility for how they behave.

    Posted by Mohan on 10 Feb 2020

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    Thoughtful

    Yes Zero

    Posted by Thoughtful on 10 Feb 2020

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    Dylan

    Yes, the normalisation of alcohol is damaging society. We need to promote a more effective understanding of recreational moderation.

    Posted by Dylan on 10 Feb 2020

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    Living free.

    I agree. Being drunk is seen as funny and I've always found it strange why you've supposedly had a good time but can't remember it and suffer the next day? Weird?

    Posted by Living free. on 12 Feb 2020

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    Soo Min

    Yes, even a little sip of alcohol can be dangerous

    Posted by Soo Min on 10 Feb 2020

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    Adrienne

    Yes. Its not hard to get an uber or publuc transport after drinking.

    Posted by Adrienne on 10 Feb 2020

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    musicveg

    Yes the sooner the better, but it won't solve the drug drivers or those on medication who cause just as much accidents. It is so tragic that innocent people get killed by people who are so stupid to drive after partaking in alcohol, drugs or on heavy mediation legal or not legal. Putting people in jail does not solve the problem either because of the guilt of killing someone they will just turn to alcohol and drugs to numb themselves to forget the pain.

    Posted by musicveg on 10 Feb 2020

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    Karen

    Don't drink and drive....use uber, public transport or designated drive or just stay home

    Posted by Karen on 10 Feb 2020

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    jaine

    Yes yes it should be no alcohol if you are going to drive a car

    Posted by jaine on 09 Feb 2020

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    Karen

    No it should be as it is people drink regardless of the limits.

    Posted by Karen on 09 Feb 2020

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    Alex

    The new alcohol law in viet nam, which have blood alcohol limit of zero. It reduced a lot of accidents. However it hammered the alcohol industry and food industry. The funny thing is even after sleeping for 8 hours your body still not be able to get rid of all the alcohol so if you drink on Sunday night, then forget about driving to work on Monday morning. In my opinion we should reduce the level of alcohol allowed in blood but not to zero. But sure we should give harsher punishment for those who break the law.

    Posted by Alex on 09 Feb 2020

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    robert

    No the limit is just fine , it's still the idiots behind the wheel , if you've been drinking , you can lose still lose the concentration of how much you've been drinking . you can count all you like , but different people have different tolerances . You can lead yourself in a false sense of security , even when you are trying to be responsible . To be liable at whatever cost is a travesty of justice . I think the only way of eradicating this is to have an alcometer fitted to the vehicle Or better still the venue you are attending should issue premises security with an analyser . This would be responsible for all parties involved !

    Posted by robert on 09 Feb 2020

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    Crabby

    No - but penalties should be harsher.

    Posted by Crabby on 09 Feb 2020

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    Billy

    There’s responsible people who know their limits & there’s people who aren’t responsible & know their limits when it comes to drinking & driving. I believe the penalty of being caught drinking & driving above the limit should be tougher eg automatic disqualification of license and 30hrs in community service.

    Posted by Billy on 09 Feb 2020

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    TITTIES

    Next question could be " is it safe to drive a vehicle on the road?

    Posted by TITTIES on 09 Feb 2020

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    fixing

    Yes of course

    Posted by fixing on 09 Feb 2020

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    Jacqui

    It should be o% for all. Im not a drinker but do people know if only 1 or 2 doesn't affect them. Are their reflexes the same as before they drink. The penalties should be way harsher than what they are and no excuses accepted. People drink and drive it will only stop when the penalties are a lot harsher as we all know it keeps on happening.

    Posted by Jacqui on 09 Feb 2020

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    mact

    The alleged perpetrator of that tragedy was well over the legal limit. Most responsible motorists stay below the state limits. No point in knee jerk 'woke' reactions. There is always going to be mistakes made and the odd tragic outcome. That's life in the human race!

    Posted by mact on 08 Feb 2020

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    mact

    On second thoughts.....when self driving vehicles become all the rage they can drive the drunks safely home.....problem solved!! Pubs and other venues could provide a free self driving car to home service. Ahhhh....the future.... my Grandkids are saved !?

    Posted by mact on 15 Feb 2020

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    Cookie_Wookie

    I believe some changes need to be made. Its people not obeying laws that put others at risk. If you are going to drink alcohol, JUST DON'T BLOODY DRIVE !!! It's the safest way... But humans are not as intelligent as we think we are, so I expect not alot will change just a load of debates...

    Posted by Cookie_Wookie on 08 Feb 2020

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    geraldineb

    It would reduce crashes and deaths !

    Posted by geraldineb on 08 Feb 2020

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    Jane

    You will always find people who want to drink and drive will do so wheather it is Zero tollorance or not

    Posted by Jane on 08 Feb 2020

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    Rosemary

    Yes if you want to drive no drinking at all.

    Posted by Rosemary on 08 Feb 2020

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    Karen

    I dont believe this is totally necesary. It should be applied to all drivers under 21. Which should be the legal age too drink. Personally, im a one wine drinker. Thats my limit. It would reduce thd carnage on our highways etc.

    Posted by Karen on 08 Feb 2020

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    Dennise

    It is not right to drive after a drink. We should have a self- discipline to be safe and our family. After all alcohol is not good to our health.

    Posted by Dennise on 08 Feb 2020

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    Karen

    Agree Diane. The trouble is that there are those who cannot or choose not to adopt discipline. I have 3 children in the police force. They are all suffering from stresses. My son in law had to recently lift the helmet and head off the side of the road belonging to a motorbike rider (under the influence). Its not fair on front line staff to view the horrors that could be avoided.

    Posted by Karen on 08 Feb 2020

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    Rodney

    It is 2020. Police pull over people anywhere for alcohol and drug testing. How many stupid people are being caught. Like many people I have lost mates because of alcohol either from them the driver or another driver. When will people learn. They advertise a plan B, why are people not doing this. No excuse for just having a couple before driving home. Anyway I vote zero % alcohol.

    Posted by Rodney on 08 Feb 2020

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    MissSassyPants

    I'm really sorry that you've lost mates to people that don't care to stay under the legal limit of .05. I highly doubt that you've lost mates to somebody that's had one glass of wine or one small bottle of beer before driving home. Those people that do follow the law, those people that do know to how to stay under the legal limit so they're driving isn't impaired. You shouldn't punish the millions of drivers that are responsible who will very occasionally have a glass of wine or a glass of beer with their mates before driving home. I'm all for throwing the book those that will not try and stay under the legal limit but you can't throw the book at people that do follow the law and will say no to any more alcohol after they know that they're not even close to .05. why punish the millions that have followed the law as they haven't killed anybody at all?

    Posted by MissSassyPants on 08 Feb 2020

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    MissSassyPants

    I'm sorry but there are millions of responsible drivers who know that one glass of wine and one beer before driving will not impair their ability to drive at all so why should they be punished because of the other idiots who don't know how to stop? It's not a totalitarian state, you can't throw heaps of people all into one basket when you've got millions that know how to drink and drive responsibly as in having one glass of wine and one small bottle of beer before heading home. Extensive tests were done to establish the legal limit and I hate to break it to you but there are millions of people that do follow the law that aren't alcoholics or people that don't care or want to take the risk and keep drinking before they get me on the wheel of a car. You shouldn't punish those that have been responsible drivers for years that will occasionally have a glass of wine and then drive home. Those people haven't been responsible for killing anybody it's the ones that don't know how to stop so you shouldn't punish the ones that have followed the law and don't push the boundaries!

    Posted by MissSassyPants on 08 Feb 2020

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    Karen

    I wonder Rodney if transport was more available i.e buses in metro areas would assist. Cheaper than taxis...many may take up offer. Addtionally pubs and clubs need too close much earlier!

    Posted by Karen on 08 Feb 2020

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    Neil

    No, but the enforcement of current laws should be improved.

    Posted by Neil on 08 Feb 2020

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    Liz

    No! Because one idiot didn’t drink to the legal limit ALL responsible people are punished. Throw the book at him but don’t punish the rest of us.

    Posted by Liz on 08 Feb 2020

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    alteon

    what a great idea. further more a drunk driver who kills someone while they are drunk should be charged will murder maybe they will think twice before driving while drunk.

    Posted by alteon on 08 Feb 2020

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    mumfour

    No everyone shouldn't b penalised but I do think bar and clubs should b more proactive in not letting people they have sold alcohol to drive

    Posted by mumfour on 08 Feb 2020

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    Rebecca

    I absolutely think if your going to drive don't drink at all. Different amounts of alcohol effect people differently so I don't get how 1 limit can be made legal and be deemed safe for everybody, regardless of wieght, height, empty/full stomach or if you are used to drinking or not!

    Posted by Rebecca on 08 Feb 2020

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    Tonyporritt

    YES. Nobody should be driving if they have had an alcoholic drink in the last 36 hrs.

    Posted by Tonyporritt on 08 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    Don't drink and drive message has been out there for years but it is not getting through. On top of this with have people taking drugs and driving and then the ones on their phones and driving. ALL IDIOTS..... ALL LETHAL Penalties have to be harder. They lose their licence and get fined first offence (if low range) but 2nd offence they lose licence, money and car. However, if someone is hurt or killed then those 3 losses plus a jail term to match the crime. Not a slap on the wrist or community service which is a laugh.

    Posted by coaster on 08 Feb 2020

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    Kate Gunning

    NO, it should never be ok to get into a car and drive after drinking ETOH...the result is what we saw last week, innocent children mowed down...get these alcoholics off the roads.

    Posted by Kate Gunning on 07 Feb 2020

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    Karen

    Absolutely horrific Kate. I cried for those babies. In this instance a stronger judicial penalty needs to be adopted. I tell my 7 and 4 yr old grand children about good choices and bad. They ard starting to get it. Teaching them right from wrong at a young age is imperative.

    Posted by Karen on 08 Feb 2020

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    coaster

    They are not all alcoholics - just drunks.

    Posted by coaster on 08 Feb 2020

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    Ulysses

    used No. It was a high end drunk driver that caused those tragic deaths, NOT someone who had 1 alcoholic drink. It's going way over the top to suggest that we should never ever have just one drink, and not drive. Bring out the stats for the number of people at fault in accidents who have had 1-2 drinks, verses those who've had nothing to drink. Maybe we should ban driving if a person is sad, has heart problems etc. . What about people who drive tired, yapping on the phone .... I would suggest they are more dangerous than someone who has had one / two beers. wines. etc.

    Posted by Ulysses on 07 Feb 2020

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    esoxlucius

    Most definitely lose license for minimum of 6 months.

    Posted by esoxlucius on 07 Feb 2020

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    Joseph

    Yes it should .then it can't be blamed

    Posted by Joseph on 07 Feb 2020

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    Cassius

    The limit should .05 nationally and backed with strong penalties. There is no need for a complete nanny state takeover. Willing to bet that more incidents are caused by those high on recreational drugs. SHOW US THE STATS!

    Posted by Cassius on 07 Feb 2020

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    stretchly

    i am under the belief that if it is not on to smoke and fly then why are awe allowing people to drink and drive the alcohol limit needs to be 0 to ensure road safety

    Posted by stretchly on 07 Feb 2020

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    Kevin

    It has been said that any amount of alcohol can have an effect on a person's performance, judgement, ability, etc., even if it is only slight. There is more than enough justification in making the blood alcohol limit zero in the number and nature of accidents involving drunk drivers. Driving while under the influence of alcohol cannot be justified under any circumstances at all.

    Posted by Kevin on 07 Feb 2020

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    Zanniee

    I think it should be zero. Then there is no ambiguity. P plates have to be on zero anyway and anyone who goes to court for drink driving you see back on their p's and can't drink drive again. Why not just make it zero across the board and people get organised when they go out and either have a designated driver or cab/uber it. The police are going to be there anyway testing drivers, irrespective of the level and there is a zero tolerance for drugs, alcohol is a drug. So zero is what it should be!

    Posted by Zanniee on 07 Feb 2020

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    Catherine

    Zero alcohol, Zero drug. Hefty fines and gaol terms. Be realistic, if you are going out for a meal and you enjoy a drink, you are likely to enjoy more than one. If you dont drink much, have a softdrink instead or get a cab, Uber, designated non drinker to drive. Its not rocket science. One drink can lead to a bottle. Its cheaper to buy by the bottle as per the glass. Enjoying dinner and socialising is wonderful. Plan ahead or get a cab. If you cant afford a cab, you cant afford a drink. Simple.

    Posted by Catherine on 07 Feb 2020

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    Kiza

    Ok take it easy everyone... how many of you go out to dinner, catch up with friends whatever it may be and have 1 drink??? for the majority of you do you think that 1 drink affects you that much you shouldnt drive??? How many of you have done that??? come on be realistic people!!!! there need to be a tolerence. I am totally against drink driving and it disgusts me what i have seen. i cant believe how some people think they are ok to drive after drinking. I am not a big drinking but on occasions, when i am out i will have a drink or 2 but im talking over a number of hours with food and i know im ok to drive.

    Posted by Kiza on 07 Feb 2020

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    Perspectrum

    It will make no difference practically, but on paper it would make the government appear as if they care..... and killing a persons ability to keep their job and income to pay for the damage they may do from one mistake is equally as ridiculous and counterproductive. Humans make mistakes. Full stop. When you get in the car and make mistakes when you ARENT drinking, what then? You can kill people more from inattention than drinking! Either create driverless cars ONLY or stop punishing humans for being imperfect when we have no way of achieving perfection. 2 drinks puts me over the limit because I am not fat or big. Sorry but 2 drinks doesnt make me a criminal and a driver who is over and one who is under, separated by 2 points; one should be flogged and one shouldnt? So fat Reggie gets to enjoy 2 drinks and drive but I cant because Im not fat or large. I get imprisoned or go homeless whilst HE gets to keep drinking. Have we all gone mad? Make it zero just so you dont risk a class action from every female in Australia but dont pretend it will actually make peoole be "more goid", lol. The law is discriminatory because women metabolise alcohol much slower so we can NEVER drink what men can drink and still be under the limit when THEY can. Making it Zero removes any breach of discrimination legislation.

    Posted by Perspectrum on 07 Feb 2020

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    HARPS59

    No, in my opinion this would just be another form of revenue raising, it has been dropped from .08 to .05. perhaps then it should be made that any form of prescribed medications should also be included in this as well, a lot of these medications say don't drive but of cause people don't even think twice about getting behind the wheel after taking these. we are all entitled to a from of relaxation and this includes being able to go out or simply enjoy a drink when we want. there are a lot of responsible people who do have only 1 drink to relax and are under the limit and able to drive and are less impaired then the people who take prescribed medications and there are a lot of if people who are just shit drivers who shouldn't even be on the road and what about the older drivers should we stop them from driving as well. I am not endorsing driving over the legal limit just that we are becoming such a nanny country that we no longer allowed to enjoy the things that we are legally able to buy and yet is frowned upon for actually using.

    Posted by HARPS59 on 07 Feb 2020

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    Sugar Ray

    Definitely YES! The stupid things you see drivers do makes you wonder which of the two evils is worse, drink driving and mobile phone usage. Anyone pulled over and tested for alcohol who returns any level should automatically lose their licence for 12 months, no if's, and's, or but's. And if the lose their licence and then caught driving without a licence, 12 months in jail and loss of licence for life. In that instance, they don't deserve to have the privilege of driving on our roads. A car is a lethal weapon just like any other.

    Posted by Sugar Ray on 07 Feb 2020

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    Cap`n Roodog

    Absolutely!! Owning a vehicle,having a license and driving on our roads IS a priveledge - if you abuse it,then you should lose it! Drug & drink driving is NEVER acceptable!

    Posted by Cap`n Roodog on 07 Feb 2020

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    Carmel

    Yes alcohol should be zero when driving

    Posted by Carmel on 07 Feb 2020

  • [2] [0]
    Carmel

    Yes alcohol should be zoe when driving

    Posted by Carmel on 07 Feb 2020

  • [0] [1]
    baserayver

    i love it. what about smoking marijuana? what about gun laws? they have them and killings still happen with them? where is paradise? cars? why??? i have a good friend and she hasn't been justified by getting hit by a car and flipping over it just to land broken legged. the drivers fake eyelash fell off and she couldn't see the red light to stop..so ride a bike dont work far from home love the environment and eat your veggies!

    Posted by baserayver on 07 Feb 2020

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    Polar Bear

    Kit Yes

    Posted by Polar Bear on 06 Feb 2020

  • [0] [0]
    Jocelyne

    Yes, drink

    Posted by Jocelyne on 06 Feb 2020

  • [2] [0]
    Pollyanna7

    Yes, zero blood alcohol limit for everyone.

    Posted by Pollyanna7 on 06 Feb 2020

  • [0] [3]
    Offspring

    No. Come on.

    Posted by Offspring on 06 Feb 2020

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    Barbara

    Zero tolerance is clear to understand and does not pose the question - have I had to much to drink and drive home ? After a drink you are likely to come to the wrong answer. Zero means NO DRIVING after any alcoholic drink

    Posted by Barbara on 06 Feb 2020

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    dizzyspell

    YES! any alcohol in the blood can effect driving skills, and cause an car -tastrophy

    Posted by dizzyspell on 06 Feb 2020

  • [1] [1]
    Garry

    Unfortunately it would make very little difference: These incidents will continue to happen because drivers will ignore the law.

    Posted by Garry on 06 Feb 2020

  • [2] [0]
    TrendingWare

    Yes it should

    Posted by TrendingWare on 06 Feb 2020

  • [2] [0]
    Joseph

    Should be zero tolerance

    Posted by Joseph on 06 Feb 2020

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    David

    the lateat incident involving 4 children being killed adds magnitude to the need for change. A zero blood achol level limit is agreat idea, but to bring it about? we regularly read of car crashes involving unlisensed drivers in unregistered and uninsured cars.our miknd set mut change before any improvements can tke place. it must start at home, as well as being an intergral part of an ongoing education campaign by goverments.

    Posted by David on 06 Feb 2020

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    Troy

    No use public transport or a sober bob

    Posted by Troy on 06 Feb 2020

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    Allan

    I definitely agree with the notion of zero alcohol. One cannot attend work nor operate any type of machinery under the influence. Why should driving be any different.

    Posted by Allan on 06 Feb 2020

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    Juanita

    Drunk and driving are not just irresponsible idiots. They are murders yes zero alcho reading should be law

    Posted by Juanita on 06 Feb 2020

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    Leonie

    Definitely, not just for P platers, and much harsher penalties.

    Posted by Leonie on 06 Feb 2020

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    Ioane

    I agree, should be 0.00 because it will never b okay to drink drive.

    Posted by Ioane on 06 Feb 2020

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    odear

    Not ok to drink then drive

    Posted by odear on 05 Feb 2020

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    Hayden

    Yes absolutely 100% no ifs or buts.... absolutely even -0

    Posted by Hayden on 05 Feb 2020

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    Ulysses

    No. It should remain at .05 What happened to those 4 kids was tragic, but the guy who was stupid enough to drive was wayyyyyyyy over the limit. He is just a selfish prick, with no thought for others. It would NOT have mattered what the alcohol limit is, he would have ignored it anyway .... well he did ignore the one in place. I hope he faces a huge amount of jail time.

    Posted by Ulysses on 05 Feb 2020

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    Kym

    No, numbers don't matter.

    Posted by Kym on 05 Feb 2020

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    Murray

    Here are some numbers that DO matter (and consider). Try finding out last year's road toll deaths and injuries, check this year's figures, then check how many of them were drunk behind the wheel. While I understand there are other distractions, PLEASE consider THESE figures before you make the statement that "numbers don't matter" and let these idiots off the hook.

    Posted by Murray on 06 Feb 2020

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    Andrea

    Most definitely!!

    Posted by Andrea on 05 Feb 2020

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    bowler

    Yes, definitely

    Posted by bowler on 05 Feb 2020

  • [3] [1]
    Legend 1st

    Hell no the cops allready have to much power.just sit down and think about how many different things we consume with alcohol or a buyprouduct of it their you go see what happens when you try to explain well I'm sorry the machine said you are guilty so my hands are tied new laws just cause more INJUSTICE

    Posted by Legend 1st on 05 Feb 2020

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    hardbags

    no, there are other variables causing road accidents, reducing limit to zero will not change anything just annoy a lot of people with unnecessary fines.

    Posted by hardbags on 05 Feb 2020

  • [4] [1]
    Sammbo

    No! In this particular instance it would have no effect! He woulod still have driven!

    Posted by Sammbo on 05 Feb 2020

  • [0] [1]
    Ulysses

    You are absolutely right.

    Posted by Ulysses on 05 Feb 2020

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    Pedro24

    YES. No I am not a wouser and nor am I a teetotaller. Yes there are people who can handle alcohol better than most. There are a lot of people out there that cant and still think they are ok to drive. No amount of policing the limit via booze buses and random testing will stop those that still choose to drink and drive and put others and their own lives in danger.

    Posted by Pedro24 on 05 Feb 2020

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    Moongold

    I think it's time to bring zero tolerance in as law. We've become too used to 'pushing the boundaries' and driving away with the smack on the wrist of simply incurring fines or losing licence points. Many think they can even assess their own 'ability to drive drunk' and do so without a thought for the need for road safety or others' lives. The horrific deaths & accidents being experienced fully justify zero tolerance. And of course, sensibly, that law should prohibit zero use of drugs for drivers also. The horrific car accidents and deaths from them are justification enough.

    Posted by Moongold on 05 Feb 2020

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    MissSassyPants

    why punish the millions of responsible people who have one glass of wine or one small bottle of beer and know to stop? Why punish the millions of people who know to stay under the legal limit of .05 and stay way under that and still drive unimpaired because an idiot was 4 times over the legal limit? You can't put everybody into one group as there are heaps of responsible people that know very well to stay under the legal limit so they're driving is unmpaired. Those people shouldn't be punished at all!

    Posted by MissSassyPants on 08 Feb 2020

  • [3] [2]
    MissSassyPants

    no, there are millions of people who know how to stay under the legal limit and can drink and drive responsibly. Why should responsible drinkers have to pay the price for those idiots who do get way over the legal limit and are stupid enough to drive? There's nothing wrong with having one glass of wine or one bottle of beer, (small bottle) and drive as that amount of alcohol does not impair your driving ability in anyway whatsoever!

    Posted by MissSassyPants on 05 Feb 2020

  • [2] [2]
    Thrice

    Yes it should after the terrible tragedy that just happened wake up time

    Posted by Thrice on 05 Feb 2020

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