How Should Teen Arsonists Be Punished?


It’s been a devastating few weeks in NSW and QLD after hundreds of thousands of hectares of land were destroyed by bushfires. Since the fires several teenagers have been charged with arson and starting some of the fires. Typically, these offenders are sentenced under the Juvenile Offenders Act and can be given suspended sentences, community service or warnings. What do you think is a fair punishment for teen arsonists LiveTribers? Are they too young to understand the extent of their crimes? Or should there be hasher penalties?

Posted by on 25 Nov 2019

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    Keleni

    They should be made to help each house hold who was affected by the fires to help clean up the destruction that was left behind, each household would all have a story to tell, as what stress they had gone through and the effects of the damage done by the fires, then any future jobs they have a percentage out of each week's pay should go back to paying all the debt that it cost to fight the fires because it would have to be coming out of the tax payers dollars, When the amount of money that has been spent putting out the fires could of went on better things. Surely this will send a message to the next copy cat arsonist.

    Posted by Keleni on 04 Dec 2019

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    Roger

    Why can't as Gilbert and Sullivan put it THE PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIME. Millions in damage, putting life in danger. Countless native animals cruelly killed. Do you think a slap on risk covers that? Eye for an eye.

    Posted by Roger on 02 Dec 2019

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    Angel64

    They should be jailed, made to apologise to the people hurt by their actions, they should be made to help clean up the sites & to rebuild the homes etc. lost & their parents should be fined for not raising their children with more respect for others & a better understanding of the consequences of their actions!!

    Posted by Angel64 on 02 Dec 2019

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    hOPI

    They should be charged with the convections not squished or closed. They should stay with them for the rest of their life, also the parent or parents should be held also be accountable.

    Posted by hOPI on 02 Dec 2019

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    Shalley

    Could not have said it better myself Angel64

    Posted by Shalley on 02 Dec 2019

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    Sarabjeet

    They should be given a chance to get some treatment or therapy, so they can improve themselves.

    Posted by Sarabjeet on 01 Dec 2019

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    mee mee

    They are often too young and recognized as such. They cant drink or drive or vote till they are over 17 and 18 so it would be double standards to treat them as adults when they commit a crime. They should have do some type of community work on weekends and holiday for a year if still at school or if they are working they should have a to pay some compensation and also do community service. Maybe a good place for them to do this work would be to work cleaning up the mess they made.

    Posted by mee mee on 01 Dec 2019

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    Christine

    We need to get to the reasons why this is happening and plan accordingly

    Posted by Christine on 01 Dec 2019

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    Lee

    Assess for mental health services if there is a mental health issue and treated accordingly. If there are no mental health issues then they need to be held accountable for their actions and treated accordingly. At the end of the day everyone needs to be held accountable for their actions and needs to be held responsibld for the consequences of those actions. There is no such thing as a free ride or acting with impunity.

    Posted by Lee on 01 Dec 2019

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    Roger

    should be floged with a cat of nine tails

    Posted by Roger on 01 Dec 2019

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    SYDNEYGAL1

    Do an adult crime then do the adult time. Seems like get away with just a slap on the hand these days

    Posted by SYDNEYGAL1 on 01 Dec 2019

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    Cheyne

    They should be charged as adults and put in juvenile custody until they turn 18 then into real jail for a big serve, that behaviour is putrid and needs to be taken more seriously

    Posted by Cheyne on 01 Dec 2019

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    ajshoe5

    As any adult would be, age is know excuse for an crime.

    Posted by ajshoe5 on 01 Dec 2019

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    Louise

    Restorative justice would be suitable here. Arsonists get to help clean up devastation of fires and meet those directly affected.

    Posted by Louise on 01 Dec 2019

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    Bronwin

    they have commited a crime so they should face the courts . if they are 18 or 19 then they should be treated as adults.

    Posted by Bronwin on 01 Dec 2019

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    John

    put them in the military for six years and teach them some dicipline and respect

    Posted by John on 01 Dec 2019

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    Angel64

    Here here!!

    Posted by Angel64 on 02 Dec 2019

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    Millywilly

    Slowly and painfully

    Posted by Millywilly on 30 Nov 2019

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    Michaela

    They need years in Jail and while in there, some education on why its a unforgivable act.. Show them the devastation and bad effects

    Posted by Michaela on 30 Nov 2019

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    Max

    Before we talk about punishment, let us consider what they have done in increasing order of importance. Killed animals, burned houses, left people penniless and finally, killed people or ruined their lives and those of their families. Some of the victims will eventually commit suicide. Do they know what they have done? YES!! From what I seen on the news, in excess of 90% of the fires are caused by arsonists, most of them in their teens. I would jailed them for three months and forced them to work for free for the next two years. If they commit any further crimes, they should be put away for a very long time.

    Posted by Max on 30 Nov 2019

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    Danon2019

    Agreed, Horn and Captain Nightowl. It is wrong and they should suffer what they caused

    Posted by Danon2019 on 30 Nov 2019

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    Captain Nightowl

    They should be made to help clean up the damage, and after this has been completed spend at least 12 months as a volunteer working in the animal hospital doing the hard work, Cleaning and nursing the sick animals. No free time to enjoy social life

    Posted by Captain Nightowl on 30 Nov 2019

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    Horn

    If they are under 14yrs of age they should have to go out with a suitable organisation mentor for clean up duty every time there has been a serious fire and help with clean up for a period of no less than 12 months , By confronting the pain and destruction they have caused , they would come to terms with how such disasters effect people . For juveniles between 14 & 18 yrs the same would apply with the inclusion of 12months detention , along with daily compulsory schooling . These conditions would be mandatory under " National Law "no get out clause , once the perpetrator has bee found guilty of the arson.

    Posted by Horn on 30 Nov 2019

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    Zoec

    This is an excellent idea. Make them help clean up the aftermath, and face the actual consequences of what they've done. Let them see the animals killed; let them see the memories gone up with the houses; let them have the stink of a fire on their clothes.

    Posted by Zoec on 30 Nov 2019

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    she cat

    Jail does not teach them a lesson. They need to see the light, spiritually, It would take a tough person to pull them into line as these teen arsonists know nothing but evil because there's no love in their life. They need a sargeant major type of person. It's a difficult subject.

    Posted by she cat on 30 Nov 2019

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    Stafsta

    I'm sorry but jail them. y should they get off.if you don't punnish them they will just do again.i know this first hand.i lit a fire in a paddock when i was younger and i got punnish for it off the fire brigade police and then i had to answer to mum and dad but i tell you this i never did it again.

    Posted by Stafsta on 30 Nov 2019

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    frogspawn

    Gather everything they own including phones, ipads, gaming devices, leave them only with the clothes on their backs. Sell all their possessions and give the money to the volunteers. Let them start from scratch like so many fire victims do.

    Posted by frogspawn on 30 Nov 2019

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    she cat

    That's an excellent idea. the same question as Valerie, who would implement it?

    Posted by she cat on 30 Nov 2019

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    Valerie

    This sounds like a good idea, but who will implement it?

    Posted by Valerie on 30 Nov 2019

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    Red Jeep

    Give them to the people that lost houses animals and all there possesions. I would tie them to a tree in the middle of one of the fires.

    Posted by Red Jeep on 30 Nov 2019

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    ablaze

    A public flogging followed by long community service work!!!

    Posted by ablaze on 30 Nov 2019

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    REBECCA

    Mandatory participation in the cleanup process by being allocated to one of the volunteer groups in the locally affected area. Would require direct supervision. Also, counselling - what lead to this shocking conscious decision to affect so many lives forever?

    Posted by REBECCA on 30 Nov 2019

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    she cat

    That's a good idea too. That happened on Home And Away and they got pulled into line, maybe that will work.

    Posted by she cat on 30 Nov 2019

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    BatNurse

    Mandatory Rural Fire Fighting (unpaid of course but could eventually be used as experience on their resume) until they’re 21!!!

    Posted by BatNurse on 30 Nov 2019

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    Barry

    Take them through the devisartion first to see what has happened to everyone then show them families who have lost then work with them in underdtanding there actions

    Posted by Barry on 30 Nov 2019

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    Bix

    As a rural fire fighter I look at these idiots in horror and consider jail far to good for them perhaps burning at the stake would be suitable, as that is what they are doing to us fire fighters

    Posted by Bix on 30 Nov 2019

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    Lady Lucifer

    Put them in the volunteer Fire Brigade on the front line until they are 21. Mandatory counselling and therapy as well. The desire to light fires is the visible manifestation of a deeper problem in their mind. Don't sweep them under the carpet and marginalise them. Help them to heal the wounds. Being a volunteer firefighter will teach them about the receiving end. It'll educate them first hand about the damage caused and danger presented. It'll be worse than a fine or imprisonment. Those things can be shaken off and you will find they will commit the offense again. Being a volunteer Firefighter will educating them in a real way about the problems they cause. It will also teach them about community. It will show them mercy. It will instill in them civil responsibility. It will eat up their free time. They will learn team work and discipline plus other life skills. Instead of being an outcast and sent in an ever spiralling downward path into a career criminal, you might get a semi authentic citizen who changed their ways from education rather than punishment. Plus, they need more fire fighters anyway. Create an asset and not a liability. Institutions are responsible for the institutionalisation mentality of those who commit crimes. In that way, the government and establishment are perpetuating more criminal behaviour on a subliminal level. It's so insidious that the average person is missing the effects it is having in their lives.

    Posted by Lady Lucifer on 29 Nov 2019

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    Who? Me?

    Do you really think this would work? After all, a lot of the bushfires have been started by volunteer firies. It seems having to fight these fires is no deterrent at all to some people. If only it was that simple.

    Posted by Who? Me? on 01 Dec 2019

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    she cat

    The arsonists would have to do a mandatory fire fighting course to make sure they can handle the consequences.

    Posted by she cat on 30 Nov 2019

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    jiefuk

    Prison is not enough, they should be made go ad work in the area that they burned out until the area is completely restored and then their should have a proportion of their salary taken every week for the rest of their life or until the full cost is recovered.

    Posted by jiefuk on 29 Nov 2019

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    Not_A_DoDo

    OLD ENOUGH TO START FIRES/COMMIT CRIME OLD ENOUGH TO TAKE THE CONSEQUENCES BUT SEEING THE YOUNG I WOULD BE LOOKING INTO WHAT THEIR ELDERS ARE TEACHING THEM AND THOSE IF THEY INCITED NEED TO BE PUNISHED AS WELL SICK OF JUSTICE BEIG A PUSSY

    Posted by Not_A_DoDo on 29 Nov 2019

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    86

    Why should these arsonists be let off with just a suspended sentence? These offenders have not only burnt down grass lands, forests, native wildlife habitat and even injured or even possibly caused the deaths, by fire. Also, let's not forget those unfortunate people who not only lost all their belongings including their pets as well as their lives. Please do NOT forget all the volunteers who have been injured or, God forbid, perished whilst trying to help all others in the fires. My thoughts are to send these thoughtless kids out with fire fighters and ambo's so they may feel first hand exactly what their actions have caused. Also make them help with the retrieval of those poor unfortunate victims thus giving them a sample of the pain and hurt to others which these thoughtless individuals have caused when on their escapades.

    Posted by 86 on 29 Nov 2019

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    Karel

    like any other criminal according to criminal code and proportionately to age. teenagers with jail, toddlers by "smack on buttocks".

    Posted by Karel on 29 Nov 2019

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    brightsun2205

    Perhaps criminal records and jail time, depending on the nature of the amount of damage that has been done.

    Posted by brightsun2205 on 29 Nov 2019

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    Ken

    By undertaking an education program that includes working with fire affected communities for a period where they will experience the impact of fire on people.

    Posted by Ken on 29 Nov 2019

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    Maddie

    Teen arsonists should definitely be punished. They are 0 well aware of what a fire does and what it would do if it don’t go right. Common sense is a necessity and is taught to a child at an early age. They know what they’re doing and just because they are underaged does not meant they should be able to get away with it, if they think they can then why not trial them as adults. I don’t even live anywhere near the bushfires but seeing the destruction and death they have brought definitely brings tears to my eyes.

    Posted by Maddie on 29 Nov 2019

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    snakelady

    First I would tie them to the biggest fire fighter I could find and make the fight the fire they started once the fire has been down grated they will get a tub and go into the ashes and look for burnt animals to take to a vet. Then they can be handed to the police, charged with arson as an adult and sent to jail minimum of 4 years

    Posted by snakelady on 29 Nov 2019

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    karl

    the crime they commit is an adult crime. they should be tried as adults, kept in juvie until they are 18, then spend the rest of what should be a VERY long sentence in adult prison

    Posted by karl on 29 Nov 2019

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    Colleen

    Without doubt - they should b incarcerated 4 a long time ! The damage they caused is tragic & extremely devastating 2 all affected ! !

    Posted by Colleen on 29 Nov 2019

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    Steven

    Should be put on the front line fighting the fire they started

    Posted by Steven on 29 Nov 2019

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    rosielin

    They should be charged but the parents should be fined a large sum as to make them more accountable for their kids. The really young ones (under 12) should be put into a less stressful environment than the ones over 12.

    Posted by rosielin on 29 Nov 2019

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    coaster

    I have known the best parents in the world who really watched their kids, educated them, taught them right from wrong and one word from one the the kids peers and all that is gone by the wayside. Kids are stupid and this sometimes is ongoing into adult hood. Yes unfortunately there are parents out there who are lacking but then many kids from these parents are fine citizens. No rhyme or reason why kids do what they do sometimes. The kids are accountable for their actions and I think no fighting the fires but cleaning up afterwards in the area they burnt facing the people whose homes, animals and family they have lost.

    Posted by coaster on 30 Nov 2019

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    Nobility

    They have to have a mental problem and need to be removed from society till absolute assurances can be given that the problem has been resolved and only then with a tracker on them. If someone dies because of their actions then it is murder and treated as such

    Posted by Nobility on 29 Nov 2019

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    Moongold

    For anyone to have to even ask this question is beyond me. No matter what the age is, arson is a criminal act and it causes loss of people and animal's LIVES. They die in terror and the most extreme pain and suffering. Lighting these fires with intent, is acting to cause that horrific death, and that is NOT any act of 'manslaughter', but MURDER. Fire is, as we've seen, practically unstoppable once started. If ANY human being is prepared to put others' lives at risk, or their property, they should be charged with arson and murder - it is NOT an act of manslaughter, because it is no accident, but deliberate intent. And the penalty should be the full and most severe - teenagers today are becoming almost evil - they choose to act to kill rather than merely, and sensibly, take care for, and respect, others' lives. For that they should be charged with full adult penalties. Age makes NO difference. FULL imprisonment, harshest penalties. Soft treatment only ENCOURAGES a repeat of the act. I've worked in the Children's Courts and others, and know that the days of a smack on the hand being enough to deter crime is NO LONGER effective, and certainly no deterrent.

    Posted by Moongold on 29 Nov 2019

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    dukey

    Totally agree but on top of all that has been said, all his or her precious belongings should be confiscated put in a pile then give a match to the culprit and let it set the pile alight and see how it feels to lose possessions. But to lose a life they will never get it.

    Posted by dukey on 29 Nov 2019

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    Sandra

    Definitely harsher penalties because if someone was to die that's basically manslaughter

    Posted by Sandra on 29 Nov 2019

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    Jeanette

    Meet the people who have been devastated and let them show the destruction and hear the problems they have caused

    Posted by Jeanette on 29 Nov 2019

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    Rossconsult

    Offenders should be made to complete lengthy community service.

    Posted by Rossconsult on 29 Nov 2019

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    LIFESGOOD

    I think they should be made to help clean up in the aftermath of all the devastation they have caused. Not for just a day but for many, many hours. This will make them mix with the people and communities they have hurt so much, hear their stories, the impact this has had on their lives and contemplate the consequences of their actions.

    Posted by LIFESGOOD on 29 Nov 2019

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    powerstart

    Make them explain why they did this to all the damaged victims after they hear all their grievances and then ask them what they think should happen to them in way of punishment .

    Posted by powerstart on 29 Nov 2019

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    Nuffie

    I like everything I've read here in the way of punishment, paying compensation, trying to make them aware of just how dangerous their actions are and so on. Especially appealing are the calls for medieval punishments. Putting someone in the stocks preferably in the centre of a fire ravaged community I find immensely appealing. Unfortunately this only addresses some of the punishment issues. To educate these scum, youths or adults, an experience as frightening as what innocent people and animals are forced to endure may just give them a hint of what they have caused. Arsonists really get their jollies by watching their beautiful flames but they usually do it from a distance. I assume that the build up of excitement and tension as they get closer to actually igniting the world which the rest of us call home must be close to ecstasy. These feelings must end up as the overwhelming memory of lighting a bushfire because come summer they're out there doing it again. I feel that once caught by all means let the public humiliate them but most definitely don't cause physical harm, this is part of a learning experience after all. During this period they can also contemplate the next learning experience which could take place on the next Total Fire Ban day or similar and could involve maybe chaining and padlocking them to a suitable tree in a high risk fire area where they could spend the day looking like a greenie and praying the greenies can save the forest. Might even bring about a fear of arsonists. My feeling is that it could easily take all fire season to bring about an attitude change, maybe two seasons just to be on the safe side. There's room for fine tuning, maybe the chain is a bit harsh, a rope would at least give them a chance to find a safe refuge. Once it burned through.

    Posted by Nuffie on 28 Nov 2019

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    Ulysses

    I wish there was a "heart" button I could hit. BRILLIANT. Thank you

    Posted by Ulysses on 28 Nov 2019

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    Arnold

    A year of jail time for every ten hectares burnt, no chance at bail.

    Posted by Arnold on 28 Nov 2019

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    Murray

    Firstly, put them on the front line to stop the fires - they lit it, they put it out ! Secondly, once the fire is out (no matter how big it gets) they get a minimum 15 years jail in solitary. Thirdly, they and their families pay back every cent in compensation to victims and emergency services - no matter how much it costs (that would bring a bit of parental control). Then, if they are ethnic, deport the family once the sentence and fines are covered. This should go for any 'bleeding heart' greenie supporters too.

    Posted by Murray on 28 Nov 2019

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    Nuffie

    Well said Murray. It's starting to look as if we may be seeing the start of a people power revolt against the slap on the wrist with a wet lettuce leaf form of sentencing and a move towards retribution with entire families suddenly being forced to show some interest in what their little darlings are up to. This should prove to be a suitable deterrent to start with and if not just ramp it up till it works. Make the sentence mandatory with no wishy washy excuses. The judiciary will no doubt oppose this but only until they see the changes to their terms of employment. At the moment judges are appointed for life, which might seem a long time,but as we all know it can also mean that they could be out in as little as nine years or less. Take into account time already served and Centrelink could find itself inundated by a group very cranky old fogies who have just discovered that they really work for us and not the Law Society. When we look at Australian history and compare today to two hundred years ago it's easy to see what's gone wrong. We've taken a perfectly good system of punishment by incarceration for any crime with various degrees of flogging added as a little something extra and replaced it something that's hopeless. In the past if you offended you got locked up and you didn't get out for a long time. Now it doesn't seem to matter what you do very few manage to get gaol time. How about we turn ourselves back into a Penal Colony for a few years then sit back and watch the fun.

    Posted by Nuffie on 29 Nov 2019

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    Trunko

    This is murder It’s time to bring back medieval fixes Jail is no deterrent Cane these mongrels publicly put them in stocks for public humiliation Control their every movement with electronics Make them help rebuild Then look at why these kids are so undisciplined Parents don’t give a damn any more they’res no control at home

    Posted by Trunko on 28 Nov 2019

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    Jeanie

    I couldn't agree more. However we need to remember why some are like this. It's because Parental Control has been removed from parents and especially where there a rebels in a family there's very little a parent can do today to pull this individual into line without having authorities come after them for something they may not have even done! Authorities seem to believe the young person no matter what to day, sad to say and see the total disregard by some of today's youth. Unfortunately there are adults amongst who are better either. Again relating to the banning of the good old discipline that was once metered out and for most part worked very well. So there are two generations there now of those who don't care and do their own thing regardless of consequences. To those who are the perpetrators there are no consequences in their eyes or so it seems.

    Posted by Jeanie on 29 Nov 2019

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    Ulysses

    It's not just the parents Trunko. Many parent do care, but are confused about how to discipline kids. Schools don't have the threat of the cane any more, cops hands are tied .... because they are just "innocent kids", & don't know what they have done. It's a whole of society problem. It's caused by lack of physical disipline ... i.e. a disciplined whack on the arse.

    Posted by Ulysses on 29 Nov 2019

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    Jan

    They should spend a year cleaning up the mess and publicly apologise for their intentions.

    Posted by Jan on 28 Nov 2019

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    Aussie5

    There has been so much publicity about the damage, loss of life and injury caused by bushfires, so I am sure that these teenage arsonists are well aware of the outcome of lighting fires. I think they should be charged as adults and imprisoned. Once they are released, they should have their wages garnisheed to repay the people for the damage they have caused. They should also be charged with murder if someone dies in the fire they light.

    Posted by Aussie5 on 28 Nov 2019

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    joeseph

    yes they should face the full force of the law and be treated like an adult. these fires cause many millions of dollars in damage and the accasional death just slapping them on the wrist is not good enough and the work to help fix it is never going to happen

    Posted by joeseph on 28 Nov 2019

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    Tassiemum

    Be working with the community they lit the fires in.

    Posted by Tassiemum on 28 Nov 2019

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    Shona

    Yes. The devastation is no joke if someone was responsible for the fire they should be liable.

    Posted by Shona on 28 Nov 2019

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    mact

    Absabloodylutely.... and if their actions have caused human death then murder should be added. Public whipping in the communities their actions have affected in lieu of gaol time given modern goals are basically motels for ferals would be a very effective deterrent. No doubt our bleeding heart lawyer watermelon progressives would oppose this..... until of course they are burnt out victims!!!!

    Posted by mact on 28 Nov 2019

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    Kitty SlamHer

    They should be sent out to help with all fixing up of the land and houses like in the army with very strict authority and during week sent to jail for 6 months to scare them then when at work they pay 1/2 there wage for 10 years

    Posted by Kitty SlamHer on 27 Nov 2019

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    Julie-Ann

    they should be first punished put into youth jail till they are 18 and then in adult jail for life be charged with attempted murder and also be charged with a violent crime and repay every single cent that has cost everyone involved and as far as im concerened all violent crimes should be life in prisonment and life not 25 years they die in jail as they know exactly what they have done

    Posted by Julie-Ann on 27 Nov 2019

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    Liz

    There should be a mandatory jail sentence regardless of their age. Not a susspended sentance minuim of 2yrs in a adult prison with no early release.They commit a serious crime. ARSON. The wildlife that gets burnt to death. The devastation these bush fires cause. They no what they are doing. They have evil minds.

    Posted by Liz on 27 Nov 2019

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    Helen

    think possibly made to go and plant trees to see the devastation, or help rebuild people's houses if in goal tax payers are paying for them to be in there

    Posted by Helen on 27 Nov 2019

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    Scotty@23

    Arrested and charged

    Posted by Scotty@23 on 27 Nov 2019

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    BeagleMum

    They should definitely be punished! They should be charged with attempted murder!! They should also be made to work to repay some of the costs involved.

    Posted by BeagleMum on 27 Nov 2019

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    Dorne

    Make them meet the people who are directly affected by what they did, and make them help with the clean up.

    Posted by Dorne on 27 Nov 2019

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    RussT

    Remove their heart, because they obviously don’t use it!

    Posted by RussT on 27 Nov 2019

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    Speckie

    public shaming & a tatoo letting everyone know what shits they are

    Posted by Speckie on 27 Nov 2019

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    Trudy

    I think that there should be harsher penalties, they are old enough to know what they are doing is extremely wrong but just don't care about who they are hurting. It is about time that they take responsibility for their actions and stop just getting a slap on the wrist!

    Posted by Trudy on 27 Nov 2019

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    boodles

    They should be made to go into the affected areas and find injured animals and see the dead ones. Help care for the injured ones and also talk to the people who lost loved ones and their property. Get shown the cars that people died 8n trying to get away. The c arcassess of horses and cows etc.

    Posted by boodles on 27 Nov 2019

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    DARREL

    Ban them from any of their electronic devices including phones for a term to be determined.

    Posted by DARREL on 27 Nov 2019

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    Scotty@23

    They should be put in a children's Home so they learn there lesson

    Posted by Scotty@23 on 27 Nov 2019

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    Elyce

    Doesn’t matter the age , if you steal a car, Rob, start a fire, do drugs you are old enough to be punished. Do the crime pay the time

    Posted by Elyce on 27 Nov 2019

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    Jeanie

    But not in jail! That's too good for them. Community work helping rebuild what they caused to be destroyed.

    Posted by Jeanie on 29 Nov 2019

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    Kim

    Harsher punishment so they don't want this punishment again

    Posted by Kim on 27 Nov 2019

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    Spark

    Put them straight intp prison

    Posted by Spark on 27 Nov 2019

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    Harjot

    There should be harsher penalties.

    Posted by Harjot on 27 Nov 2019

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    Ralph

    Very harshly, no rehab, straight to jail.

    Posted by Ralph on 27 Nov 2019

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    LynnyD

    Absolutely. When turning eighteen, make them clean up after the devastation of a fire and losing your home. Then they should be trained to be in the front line of all bushfires and serving with the volunteers who help victims of said disasters. All the while, staying in a low security jail until the victims of fires truly believe they are rehabilitated.

    Posted by LynnyD on 27 Nov 2019

  • [0] [0]
    Purplejulie

    Yes

    Posted by Purplejulie on 27 Nov 2019

  • [8] [0]
    CoolChange_01

    Make these arsonists work for the rest of their lives without any income. Only the minimum, food water. Have them realise that this is what has happened to those that have worked for a majority of their lives only to end up with nothing in the blink of an eye. I have no sympathy for those that destroy lives in all forms. Time for Australian Laws to become harsher and adhere to the judgements that have been handed onto law breakers by the courts.

    Posted by CoolChange_01 on 27 Nov 2019

  • [6] [0]
    ibby

    Throw the book at these people. They should be charged with murder, arson, wilful damage. Lowest of the low to start a fire.

    Posted by ibby on 27 Nov 2019

  • [7] [0]
    Joan

    they should be forced to spend a considerable amount of time with families affected by the fires, Be made to help with the clean up and restoration of areas and also be made to care for animals rescued and help bury the lost wildlife, Seeing the consequences first hand may make them realise the reality of it.

    Posted by Joan on 27 Nov 2019

  • [1] [0]
    mittens

    I totally agree. To make them see first hand the result of fires would hopefully make them realise the devastation it causes.

    Posted by mittens on 27 Nov 2019

  • [0] [0]
    b0ssy11

    Juvenile detention. But I don't know if it will really set them back on track. So perhaps it should be a deterrent to future employers. Where it will be harder to get a job or go on welfare. No welfare for a certain period etc.

    Posted by b0ssy11 on 27 Nov 2019

  • [4] [0]
    ShazzaChev13

    I found the only thing that seems to make people sorry and rethink doing the same stupid thing again is to hit their hip pocket. Maybe a teen but .... I also do agree with the people who commented staying they should be made to see the consequences of fires , the destroyed homes and talk to the people who lost their homes and pets.

    Posted by ShazzaChev13 on 27 Nov 2019

  • [0] [1]
    Robert

    Lock them up for a month out in the desert

    Posted by Robert on 26 Nov 2019

  • [3] [0]
    zoedog66

    Prolonged community service with the fire brigade and therapy

    Posted by zoedog66 on 26 Nov 2019

  • [0] [0]
    Glenn

    They need to be made to pay some how that it sticks to tjeir eay of life for good so they neber forget

    Posted by Glenn on 26 Nov 2019

  • [4] [0]
    ladycroak

    They need to be punished to the full extent of the Law. No fines or slaps on wrists.Plus send them out to areas to pick up dead animals,see the families who have lost everythingIt is time our Government stops pandering to criminals.You do the Crime, Do The Time.

    Posted by ladycroak on 26 Nov 2019

  • [0] [1]
    rachel

    Cur of there .... $$$??

    Posted by rachel on 26 Nov 2019

  • [4] [0]
    Debsy

    Punished as adults

    Posted by Debsy on 26 Nov 2019

  • [2] [0]
    stretchly

    the law was changed to hold the parents of fire starters responsible for all arson attacks and deliberately lite fires the question should be asked will the courts of Australia commit to there own governmental changes within a policy law stated within a political circle

    Posted by stretchly on 26 Nov 2019

  • [2] [0]
    ShazzaChev13

    I was not aware of this. Hopefully the courts do follow the law. I am a parent and my child's behaviour is due to the way I raised her. If she messes up then I do hold responsibilty for that. It will be interesting to see what happens in due process

    Posted by ShazzaChev13 on 27 Nov 2019

  • [1] [0]
    bawleypoint

    named

    Posted by bawleypoint on 26 Nov 2019

  • [3] [0]
    mooo

    There needs to be real consequences. Maybe they should meet the families affected by the fires. See The detestation and suffering animals and families. Lots of community service

    Posted by mooo on 26 Nov 2019

  • [1] [0]
    Glenn

    And do some time in boys home and do some clean up the arrars

    Posted by Glenn on 26 Nov 2019

  • [1] [0]
    bentley53

    Community Service and a short stint in jail

    Posted by bentley53 on 26 Nov 2019

  • [1] [0]
    Alison

    They should be punished with community service and education. They are not too young to understand. Start setting an example! Consequences should fit the crime

    Posted by Alison on 26 Nov 2019

  • [1] [0]
    john

    The same "on paper' jail time punishment as an adult, the full strength of the (adult) law. With their time spent assisting in the "recovery after the fire" not just the fire they were responsible for, but every fire that occurs while they serve their time. Free time in confinement, compulsory schooling at their confinement facility, Any financial penalty should be split between the parents and the teenager, with the teenager paying after they turn 18. Their identities made public as soon as they are convicted. A permanent jail record, the same as an adult offender. Teenagers today know more about life and consequences than those of 2 generations ago, there really is no excuse or claim of ignorance for their actions.

    Posted by john on 26 Nov 2019

  • [4] [0]
    HOYEBOY

    Set them down then burn everthing around them all what they own and show how playing with fire burns.

    Posted by HOYEBOY on 26 Nov 2019

  • [2] [0]
    Pauline

    Burn their homes down. That punishes their stupid parents as well.

    Posted by Pauline on 26 Nov 2019

  • [4] [0]
    GeesOpinion

    Work experience at a fire station including helping the fire fighters and rescue teams put out the fires that they start.

    Posted by GeesOpinion on 26 Nov 2019

  • [0] [1]
    john

    Please No, the last thing the fireys need is someone with a chip on their shoulder maintaining the equipment or assisting to put out a fire. To put out a fire, you've must know how to start one.

    Posted by john on 26 Nov 2019

  • [7] [0]
    PamPom

    Bootcamp with the strictest harsh punishment for life

    Posted by PamPom on 26 Nov 2019

  • [6] [0]
    errolsyd2

    12 mths working in a burns ward , jail every night as well.

    Posted by errolsyd2 on 26 Nov 2019

  • [6] [0]
    Barry

    Yes to the full strength of the law, no slap on the wrist and if a child or teen the parents should also share in the consequences as lacking supervision. Too often the devastating damage to life and property is not taken into account by the courts..

    Posted by Barry on 26 Nov 2019

  • [6] [0]
    Patricia

    I think they need to be sent in to clean up after the fires and be prepared to listen to some devasted people's stories.

    Posted by Patricia on 26 Nov 2019

  • [3] [0]
    fixing

    Lock them up and community service and army for 2 years teach them a lesson

    Posted by fixing on 26 Nov 2019

  • [10] [0]
    Anita

    No they aren’t too young. They should be fronted up before a large group of affected people and firefighters. Made to apologise and listen to what some of their victims think of them. Their names should go on file . A file that goes with them through life. Then taken to an animal shelter where they are supervised while they help care for injured animals every weekend for 6 months. Don’t name them in the media. They don’t deserve fame. Thank you for this opportunity. Anita White

    Posted by Anita on 26 Nov 2019

  • [8] [1]
    Carol

    years of community work and or jail, pay back the people who they have affected.

    Posted by Carol on 26 Nov 2019

  • [8] [1]
    Gutwad

    Jail, then the army to pay off the debt they created.

    Posted by Gutwad on 26 Nov 2019

  • [7] [0]
    vickbenla

    Huge fine, (if they cant come up with the money selling their phones, Xboxes, drones etc,fine the parents (who are ultimately responsible) then put them to work caring for animals they have burnt

    Posted by vickbenla on 26 Nov 2019

  • [7] [1]
    Tonyporritt

    They should pay for the damage by having their income tax increased for the rest of their lives.

    Posted by Tonyporritt on 26 Nov 2019

  • [2] [7]
    XYZXYZ

    Let's look and think a bit harder. All the evidence and surveys worldwide show that punishment alone will almost always result in repeat arson or worse crimes when the punishment is complete. These are damaged, even broken people, and while punishment is partly understandable and easy reaction, perhaps we also need to work out how stop damaging these young people. Otherwise we'll see more arson, and the consequences will be worse as temperatures rise and the bush dries out further.

    Posted by XYZXYZ on 26 Nov 2019

  • [9] [0]
    cigarette

    they should have to meet the people whose lives they have ruined

    Posted by cigarette on 26 Nov 2019

  • [9] [0]
    ginfizz

    They should have harsher penalties. They should also be made to help with the clean up

    Posted by ginfizz on 26 Nov 2019

  • [9] [1]
    debbie

    They should be punished go and clean up the area they destroyed. Go to the animal hospital and help the animals they hurt go and collect all the animals they killed, plant more trees to the areas that destroyed

    Posted by debbie on 26 Nov 2019

  • [2] [0]
    Kilrust

    Yes maybe the visual will let them see the end result. I think that they don't understand the after

    Posted by Kilrust on 26 Nov 2019

  • [6] [0]
    Kylie79

    Of course they should be look at devastation they cause

    Posted by Kylie79 on 26 Nov 2019

  • [8] [0]
    AVA

    Teen arsonists should be made to fight bush fires, so hopefully, it makes them understand the impact their actions have on others e.g. fire fighters, animals,families, property and the states of Australia.

    Posted by AVA on 26 Nov 2019

  • [3] [0]
    eglise

    They would probably be a liability on the firefield.

    Posted by eglise on 26 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    OIGLE38

    Good one, AVA - put them in a set of "yellows" (they are stinking hot!) in front of a 2-metre wall of flame. See how much they love fires then.

    Posted by OIGLE38 on 26 Nov 2019

  • [6] [4]
    musicveg

    As much as we are all furious that kids are lighting fires, we need to question why? Prevention is better than punishment. Are they bored, are they angry, are they stupid, or just seeking attention? Punishment needs to be in the form of rehabilitation, start by helping out in a burns unit whether in humans or wildlife.

    Posted by musicveg on 26 Nov 2019

  • [6] [3]
    Tania

    The same as a death or murder conviction

    Posted by Tania on 25 Nov 2019

  • [14] [0]
    6nedkelly3

    Send them out to the areas that tey have destroyed and put them to work cleaning up the houses and shed and the animals they have destroyed. Make them look at what they have destroyed first hand at the lives they have taken and families that have nothing left.

    Posted by 6nedkelly3 on 25 Nov 2019

  • [8] [1]
    mishaman65

    They will not learn unless they are punished and more so to deter other young ones from doing the exact same thing , just like they are doing now. Too many innocent people have lost their lives, homes and all their personal belongings just so these little pricks have some "Fun". The punishment must fit the crime.

    Posted by mishaman65 on 25 Nov 2019

  • [7] [0]
    Yvonne

    Law should be enacted so that they must fight on all or any fire outbreak - particularly those that have ravashed our country these last weeks.

    Posted by Yvonne on 25 Nov 2019

  • [6] [1]
    Simranjeet

    I think they must be punished so that others can learn from this act otherwise this may happen again as no one will hav the feqr of punishment

    Posted by Simranjeet on 25 Nov 2019

  • [3] [1]
    pinkf

    Of course old enough to know play with fire get burnt

    Posted by pinkf on 25 Nov 2019

  • [6] [3]
    jaine

    They should go to JAIL

    Posted by jaine on 25 Nov 2019

  • [14] [2]
    Joan

    JO-ANNE, young people these days, know more about life than we did as children. THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. !! no excuses here.. These offenders, with their parents, should go and spend many days clearing the areas, and working with the re-construction teams, no matter what age... particularly the burnt homes, and meet the people that have lost every thing. NAME AND SHAME THEM.. IMMEDIATELY. The extra punishment should be a short time in Jail, as they ARE arsonists. If this punishment is to go lightly, it could start a precedence. especially with a hot summer to come. This is a very serious matter As an 84 yr old, we parents were always responsible for ill deeds, if any , our children did. so the perpetrators family should be made to ( adopt) a family that has lost everything, due to their child, and offer financial , and restoration support.

    Posted by Joan on 25 Nov 2019

  • [9] [0]
    Geoff

    Working with the clean up teams and reconstruction teams and the people within the community they have destroyed to see the extent of the hard ship they have caused

    Posted by Geoff on 25 Nov 2019

  • [8] [4]
    MLM247

    A mandatory period in jail. There are no excuses, not even mental illness or lack of intellectual ability.

    Posted by MLM247 on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [5]
    Pussy

    Life imprisonments

    Posted by Pussy on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [5]
    Patricia

    Maybe send them to do 12 months in the army.

    Posted by Patricia on 25 Nov 2019

  • [9] [2]
    Patricia

    Take all the things that they have(Xbox ,, phone ect and burn them . Then community service

    Posted by Patricia on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [4]
    Trekkie

    Not easy bringing up kids, and with both parents working kids are left to their own devices. Certainly our laws are too soft, but could a alert device (or whatever they are called) be put on these offenders and having to go for compulsory re-education and also a parent having to go with their child to these sessions. it could either make or break a family but at least the child/teenager might feel they have support.

    Posted by Trekkie on 25 Nov 2019

  • [8] [0]
    Nikky

    Help in the recovery process of cleaning up & mending peoples lives. Community service with the Fire Dept

    Posted by Nikky on 25 Nov 2019

  • [2] [10]
    THEMIS

    I think jail is not right all that happens there is a school education for criminals by criminals so as institutions for kids they come out worst then before only few do put on some sense the best solution in my opinion-ion ye this might seem funny and it is in a way but the best answer is sentence them to church services that is 7 days a week under the love of a preacher(s) and the escort of the police they are to do work there and listen to the word of GOD THEN THEY ARE NOT LET OUT THE CHURCH UNTIL THEY PROVE TO BE WORTHY TO live among-st the public they must be supervised all the time 24/7 if possible ye st-ricked rules the police keep there eyes out and the preachers do the same but we got to be careful not to make GODS house a school for crooks they got to be looked after they are kids and need discipline love and to teach them the correct things in life so on some may learn? some may not? but we get a prayer going that GOD helps them all to learn to do it right next time around ye it is funny but i think i am serious here send them 24/7 to church services so as all other crimes children or adults but the preachers and police must out number them too good to keep them in order so on yes put woman and girls with men and boys so but to be looked after so they do not get up to nor-ties in the house of GOD but even so it is better then people turning to same sex partners keep them disciplined OK teach then to find a oposet sex partner but sex is when they are old enough to marry teach them what hard life these people who lost houses and lives go through teach them to do it right next time around hope so it works? so as all other criminals young and old

    Posted by THEMIS on 25 Nov 2019

  • [6] [2]
    musicveg

    This is not the place to preach your religious beliefs.

    Posted by musicveg on 26 Nov 2019

  • [10] [0]
    sherry007

    Have a compluery courses they much do to educate thwm,take them to see the people and damage it cauaed and made to be a part of cleaning up and repairing peoples lives and property. There has to be severe consequent for creating such havoc in the peoples lives and resources.

    Posted by sherry007 on 25 Nov 2019

  • [1] [5]
    THEMIS

    yes i agree with you but combining the method i said above with your methiod hope they do it and it works? hope so we can only try it to see if it works or not

    Posted by THEMIS on 25 Nov 2019

  • [0] [3]
    THEMIS

    that is combining sherryoo7 method above with my method above

    Posted by THEMIS on 25 Nov 2019

  • [0] [3]
    THEMIS

    yes i agree we should combine the method i said above with your method ye hope it works? hope they get it going teaching them is the go? but will they learn? hope so

    Posted by THEMIS on 25 Nov 2019

  • [9] [2]
    Four

    Whether they be Arsonists, Vandals, Car Thieves, if they do the Crime, they should do the Time. Going Soft on them has proved Fruitless, especially in Queensland where the Government has been too soft on them, & they Re offend. The Parents should take some of the blame for not keeping an eye on them & raising them properly.

    Posted by Four on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [3]
    michael

    I feel a harsh punishment is needed. At least one year of confinement and re-education.

    Posted by michael on 25 Nov 2019

  • [8] [0]
    Kim

    Teen arsonists need to serve time in a suitable facility and made to work at bushfire devastated area's. These people need to be made to see first hand the anguish of those that have lost everything in these fires. They should also be confronted with the numerous wildlife victims of their actions.

    Posted by Kim on 25 Nov 2019

  • [7] [1]
    Tonniey

    Humans keep evolving per century, what our grandfathers couldn't bdo while young can be easily achieves by young children nowadays. My opinion is that as human beings are evolving and becoming more mindless, the law should also be more stiffer and ruthless in dealing with mankind. Few examples of thorough prosecution of child arsonists will make every intending arsonist think twice before embarking on such deadly act.

    Posted by Tonniey on 25 Nov 2019

  • [10] [0]
    leggo

    while i know some of them have had no home life etc, and jail is no good i just think things they hold dear should be piled up in front of them and burnt, then they should be sent out with the emergency services or helpers to fight the fire or help rebuild what has been lost.

    Posted by leggo on 25 Nov 2019

  • [2] [5]
    musicveg

    How do you know they even have possessions they care about? and you is to say they just won't go out and steal to replace them.

    Posted by musicveg on 26 Nov 2019

  • [7] [1]
    Elaine

    As a Justice of the Peace I sit in on many Juveniles with the Detectives and some of the young people’s stories would break your heart. They really do need help.

    Posted by Elaine on 25 Nov 2019

  • [2] [4]
    Old Man

    Good words Elaine JP, As I said back a bit, Can not place Old Heads on Young Shoulders. They need help not the Cane., They need Education on the matter first hand, Only then (maybe) they will understand their wrong.

    Posted by Old Man on 26 Nov 2019

  • [10] [0]
    arabrab

    They should be made to help with the cleanup - made to see the suffering of the people affected by their thoughtlessness & disregard for people, property & animals.

    Posted by arabrab on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [3]
    Rod

    Definitely should be charged with murder if someone dies or attempted murder if not and they should get life withOUT parole because that's all they are worthy of !!! They have no idea of the values of real life and most of the time they are bums on the dole.

    Posted by Rod on 25 Nov 2019

  • [2] [5]
    musicveg

    What how do you know they are on the dole? did you know that half of those on Newstart are over 40?

    Posted by musicveg on 26 Nov 2019

  • [2] [5]
    Stephen

    Burn them and see how they like it and make them pay for any damage.

    Posted by Stephen on 25 Nov 2019

  • [4] [0]
    Charlene

    Yes as we are taught from a very age not to light fires , wether it be our elders, teachers or the news

    Posted by Charlene on 25 Nov 2019

  • [9] [4]
    algemyone

    I'd like to say throw them into a bushfire, or slowly burn off one of their hands, but that would be as inhuman as what they have done. Equally inhuman. They ARE old enough to understand what they are doing, but also to know they will get away with it under our soft juvenile laws. They need to be charged as adults. With attempted murder. Be forced prison labour to clean up and rebuild after fires.

    Posted by algemyone on 25 Nov 2019

  • [4] [6]
    Millywilly

    20 years in a hard prison regardless of age. Burn all their possessions

    Posted by Millywilly on 25 Nov 2019

  • [9] [2]
    Maree

    I think they should be given a severe sentence, certainly not just a slap on the wrist or a fine. And, be held accountable so that hopefully they will come to realise what they are doing to people. I also think that they should be made to go and fight the fires with the fire brigade and see precisely what devastation they have caused.

    Posted by Maree on 25 Nov 2019

  • [7] [0]
    marli

    These thoughtless people would be a pest on real fires. They would have NO IDEA what to do. They might even enjoy it. Make them help with clean up and rebuilding.

    Posted by marli on 25 Nov 2019

  • [6] [0]
    Gillian

    They should be made to see what they have actually caused

    Posted by Gillian on 25 Nov 2019

  • [4] [10]
    Toni

    Of course they are too young to understand the gravity of the crimes they are committing. Their actual age excludes them from understanding or processing correctly many concepts that we understand as adults. If we want to have any real impact on changing lives and fixing problems can we focus on education and psychological support rather than harsher penalties.

    Posted by Toni on 25 Nov 2019

  • [7] [5]
    HJD

    Send them to gaol. People are losing their homes, properties, animals and businesses. Some are even losing their lives. Then we have hundreds on volunteers who give up their time to battle these horrendous fires.

    Posted by HJD on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [0]
    Lady-bug

    Put them out on the front line

    Posted by Lady-bug on 25 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    aponi

    Yes I agree put them out on the front line fighting the fires and make them realise the damage they have caused others - emotionally, mentally and physically. Then give them time in a juvenile detention centre.

    Posted by aponi on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [2]
    Emma

    Yes=to what murderers would receive

    Posted by Emma on 25 Nov 2019

  • [8] [4]
    Francine

    Compulsory Defence Force program should be introduced - outback Australia; away from material distractions. Ration pack food only, fresh foods have to be grown / raised by them.

    Posted by Francine on 25 Nov 2019

  • [2] [4]
    musicveg

    How is that going to be helpful?, it will just make them resent authorities more, I would not want them fighting in an army to defend me.

    Posted by musicveg on 26 Nov 2019

  • [5] [1]
    sweeti

    They need harsher punishment for this as there is so many lives and property and land lost because of these stupid acts that they have caused

    Posted by sweeti on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [5]
    Old Man

    Maybe we take time to take them into the field and see first hand what has been destroyed and get them also to do the hard yard of clean up and fight the fires get their little hands dirty and see the pain first hand, might be a better way about it. Can not put old heads on Young Shoulders. Forget the Big Stick that only hardens them the wrong way. show some love and understanding… Who know what may come out of them. To all those who are going through Bushfires at this time, Blessings and may all turn out OK for You and Yours.

    Posted by Old Man on 25 Nov 2019

  • [6] [4]
    Gavyn

    Pricks should be jailed for life,this is in effect an "attempted murder"of children,women&men.DOGS!

    Posted by Gavyn on 25 Nov 2019

  • [11] [1]
    sue

    definitely they should have tougher penalties. the youth of today know that they can get away with all crimes they commit, a slap over the knuckles. they are old enough they made the choice to start these fires and these choices have consequences, so yes definitely tougher harsher penalties. its not like they are 4 or 5 year olds.

    Posted by sue on 25 Nov 2019

  • [10] [1]
    David

    Do the crime, serve the time. With nothing more than a (soft) slap on the wrist, there is no detrimental reason why they would not do it, just having fun, but not for all those people who loose all their properties, lifes memorabilia, and for some their very lives

    Posted by David on 25 Nov 2019

  • [14] [0]
    Jennifer

    They should be escorted into the burnt bush and made to assist in the disposal of the dead and rescue of the injured wildlife. The sight and sound of the animals screaming in pain and the stench of burnt fur, flesh and death will haunt all except the most psychopathic for the rest of their lives. I believe there are precedents for this; Bribie Island springs to mind. A few hours in a hospital burns ward would sort them out too, but that won't be possible of course.

    Posted by Jennifer on 25 Nov 2019

  • [11] [2]
    lynette

    Name and shame for starters. Put big photos of the culprits in the major shopping centers near where they live. Next, they should help clear up the mess and yes I am all for much harsher penalties.

    Posted by lynette on 25 Nov 2019

  • [2] [4]
    storky1234

    Take them for a helicopter ride and drop them in.

    Posted by storky1234 on 25 Nov 2019

  • [4] [1]
    Reg.

    Bring back the Birch that would give them something to think about.

    Posted by Reg. on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [2]
    KIM

    There should be harsher penalties to deter others

    Posted by KIM on 25 Nov 2019

  • [3] [2]
    pops

    It's a shame stock were banned, that would be the perfect punishment.

    Posted by pops on 25 Nov 2019

  • [10] [1]
    Debbie

    They should be charged as an adult and the penalties should be as harsh as the fires that they create. Fires are devastating. Imagine losing the ones you love be they family members or fur babies.

    Posted by Debbie on 25 Nov 2019

  • [7] [0]
    m

    This is a most serious offence endangering, if not even causing deaths to citizens. Offenders/ arsonists should be dealt with harshly and should receive a sentence of detention for at least 6 months or longer if a death has occurred.

    Posted by m on 25 Nov 2019

  • [2] [2]
    4wheelbitch

    6 months is nothing more than a slap on the wrist especially for the damage done. 25 years at hard labour minimum

    Posted by 4wheelbitch on 25 Nov 2019

  • [10] [0]
    Lynjoy

    Firstly, they should have to face and apologize to the people who suffered loss in the fire/s they caused and then they should have to sign a contract promising to give all their weekends (and more if possible) to helping the victims of the fire they were responsible for starting. This commitment should be long term and I'm sure the community would agree to supervising the culprit/s to ensure they put in as much effort as the victims. Each time they do not fulfill their commitment, they should be fined a substantial amount and have to pay back this money to the victims as they would have to do for HECS. They need to be taught that all actions have consequences.

    Posted by Lynjoy on 25 Nov 2019

  • [8] [1]
    willy3631

    Made to collect the dead animal's they killed,help clean up properties lost,then charged and jailed

    Posted by willy3631 on 25 Nov 2019

  • [9] [0]
    gnomeaust

    yes the should charged and punished to the full extent of the law, they knew what they were doing. They have destroyed property, destroyed peoples lives, caused unbelievable heartache to a lot who lost loved ones. They should be made to go out and help with the clean up the properties they have destroyed. The justice system is not harsh enough for young ones to learn that they cant go around doing thing like this and get away with it with a slap on the hand, it teaches them nothing,

    Posted by gnomeaust on 25 Nov 2019

  • [9] [1]
    Jannette

    They are older enough to start the fires,they are older enough to be charged as adult. a Harsher penalty needs to be in place,people have lost their homes and loved ones.

    Posted by Jannette on 25 Nov 2019

  • [5] [1]
    bout

    They should be severely punished for what they did ,and most of all the law shouldn't protect these little bums who have nothing to do than to hurt people.You do a crime ..you pay for the consequences.The law has been too lenient at all times,protecting them because they've been raped,they are poor and homeless,or they have no mum or no dad at home to look after them...all sort of excuses.These scums are future criminals if they aren't already now.

    Posted by bout on 26 Nov 2019

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