Nestle has announced that by early 2021 their Red Skins and Chico will be
renamed Red Ripper and Cheekies. For a lot of people, the names are racist and
marginalise certain ethnic communities and was a step in the right direction.
However, others feel it’s unnecessary. How do you feel LiveTribers?
Where do you sit on the issue? Do you think it is up to those impacted by
the racist undertones to decide what’s offensive?
Posted by on 16 Nov 2020
It's silly for people to even think that! I feel sorry for the company to have
to comply to silly people.
Name change is long overdue. People being offended over the name change and
refusing to see the racism in them are ridiculous. They’re offended that a
name is being change to be inclusive of all. Shows how little they care about
other people and how silly they are because not being racist is offensive to
It's only product packaging who really cares what really important that if
Nestle can afford to change the red skin and Chico with newly created
advertising if they can good for them however it's really odd how much would it
set back Nestle for there product name change if I was going to spend extra
funding I would rather they increase employees wages and bonuses incentive
program to boost better working condition but if the rename does not set them
back then why not change new different is always good fund help gossips
I have found out through reading these posts that Chico is Spanish for SMALL.
Can someone tell me why I should be offended by that??? Or are you all too
narrow minded and set in your own racist thoughts?
I think it's stupidity on people thinking it's racist, they should grow up and
stop being trouble makers over changing names on things that's been around for
years, We've never had any problem untill now, people just want to cause major
headaches for companies.
Not required. Dumb decision. I hope they lose sales. This is politicism to the
Next....all people with surnames of Black, Coon and Dark will be required to
change their surname to one that better reflects the views and political
sensitivity and sensibilities of today’s society.
If your surname is White, you will be on the next list of forced name changes.
We can’t have anyone thinking that because of your surname, you are or feel /
act superior to anyone, now can we!
It's ridiculous its taking racism too the extreme. We are all the same I don't
understand why the company has done this. Next we won't be able too say black
cats white 8s in alot of names why can we not be so sensitive well actually its
not even a thought. Even changing baa baa black sheep omg it's ridiculous.
Australia is losing alot of its own culture with what's going on in Aussies. Why
are we changing the Australian history too suit immigrants and indigenous people
pulling the racist card. I believe it should be focused more on what indigenous
people need in terms on the discrimination cause if there skin colour. Enough is
these are lollies people, why get up in arms about name change? It's pretty
obvious why the names are offensive to some people, so if it's a choice between
changing the name of a lolly, or continuing to offend people - the choice is
clear. Change the damn name of the lollies!
I understand the "offensive" side of it, but my father was always called
'Chico,' as an endearment! It isn't offensive but probably great for some who
could say "my products are in the store and soooo yummy!". After all, they are
"only chocolate gummy babies," not an "offensive product"!! This is
ludicrous!!... not "racist/offensive"!! NO, I don't agree and now I am only
going to find it harder to find it with a name I will probably never remember!!
I can not walk far (due to severe osteoarthritis), but now you have also made it
much more difficult for me to be able to find something I love, while searching
NOT HAPPY NESTLE!
If they were genuinely serious about changing the names to avoid being racist,
they would not have chosen names that are so similar to the original names.
Chico’s to Cheekies? Neither the sound, nor the spelling, have changed to any
great extent. Similar effect.
Redskins to Red Ripper? Are they referring to “scalping” now? I think Red
Ripper is even worse.
I don’t see much effort or consideration towards avoiding/eliminating racist
implications at all. Such a negligible change, there is no point.
Are you serious its a Lolly it should never of been changed. If people are so
offended by it obviously there are underlying issues nothing too do with the
lollies or n7rsery rhymes etc its a joke. Indigenous need change in how people
treat them. And there culture being embraced. The English are what started it
all. Not generations of Aussies that live here.
I am sooooooo over all this political correctness rubbish. Supposedly these
names, among others, are offensive, yet who are the ones making those claims?
Rarely is the complainant one of those supposedly offended. More commonly it is
some yuppie uni type complaining on someone elses behalf. ENOUGH!!!! If names
are an issue WHY AREN'T THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSEDLY OFFENDED SPEAKING UP FOR
THEMSELVES? ANSWER: The issue is in the mind of someone totally unrelated to
the situation, who thinks it's their job to speak for others. Just like how the
US thinks they are the world's police when no-one asked for them to take that
role. I fully appreciate that some things can be racist or offensive in some
other way, but we have gone so far one way now that some of these changes are
actually upsetting more people than they are placating.
When I visited South America a few years back, I was told by the locals that the
Spanish word "Chico" meant small. That is what the babies in the Nestle Chico
lollies are - Small (or Chico if you are Spanish). Where is the problem?
Geez I only got a little way down reading everyone's comments and was shocked to
see so many people do not understand the significance of this name change. It is
a great idea to change names that are offensive to some,it means they are
progressing with the times, letting go of our "old out dated ways" and moving
forward to a "more equal and accepting society". We have a long way to go yet
but it is a start. I hope that Nestle start being more sustainable and caring
about the environment more, and stop making food that is not healthy and
contributing to the obesity crisis in the world. Stop stealing water from
communities and bottling it up to sell for huge profits, stop using palm oil
from orangutan habitat that has been destroyed, stop using cocoa that comes from
child labor, the list goes on.
I must be ignorant but what is a Chico if it is not a chocolate flavoured jelly
baby? And, I understand another meaning for a Red Skin from my old cowboy and
indian watching days in the '50's and '60's was a Canadian or North American
indigent native. It may even apply to Mexican and South American indigent
natives??? If they find the colour of their skin offensive then do what the
Australian indigent natives have done and turn white. I would think that
calling brown jelly babies Cheekies would be offensive.
I am as white as people come, my ancestors came from England, Scotland, Ireland
and Germany. My best friend is black, her Mum came from the South Sea
Islands, her Dad was half Aboriginal and half white. My place of work has 15
people, of those, 4 are Aboriginal, 1 is Maori, and one is Indian, (from the
Asian part of our world).. Everyone of these people have dark skin, and
everyone of them thinks the name changes to the lollies are ludicrous.
The white people think the same as our dark workmates.
Completely ridiculous. The idiotocracy are focused on what people are, not
what they bring to the table. And they think that they have the right to be
offended on behalf of someone else. They do not have permission and should not
assume that they do. What may be offensive to one person is not for others. I
embrace people who are prepared to step up to the table, to embrace equity and
respect that each of us has an opinion and the right to own it without fear of
reprisal or rejection. It is not OK to change the names!!
Why do we have to be politically correct nowadays ?. Too many miniorities have
become super sensitive and are screaming so loudly in protest that they then
dominate above the rest of society.
I am not anti any of these people/ groups but it does seem that donot respect
past good things.
Actually don’t understand how people who are not from either culture in
question are so adamant that the names are not disrespectful and racist? It’s
not about you at all, though you should definitely be more understanding!!
Anyone who says the names are okay obviously have grown up completely
comfortable in their white privilege and haven’t had to endure what some other
With this line of thinking,
It is time we stopped calling milk WHITE as that is Racist. and as for BLACK
outs, Stop all this Racist stuff.
Lets all make an effort to wipe the Color thing away No more Colour.
Movies/Pencils/Cars/ Clothing, That's right NO COLOUR.
Silly, Hey I did not start this, But I'll fall in and go for it if you are.
While I never thought of the racial connotations of those names because
I took them for granted since childhood , I can see now that they are
indeed racial stereotypes. If those named people such as 'chicos' and
'redskins' are offended then that is enough to prove the change is
necessary. Those who can't see that should put yourself in their shoes ie.
exercise some empathy and thought for others and not just think of yourself
and your own race/culture.
I have never thought of the corolation between the names red skin or Chico.
Soon we won't be able to speak for fearvof upsetting someone.
If this is the case then we need to re move the word white in white chocolate.
Also white Christmas
No, white chocolate really is white and 'white Christmas' is not a racially
stereotyping name for anyone. You are just trying to justify racist
terminology. Maybe you haven't thought it through properly or do you
genuinely dislike people that aren't white?
What on earth is "s J W culture"? People get away with posting endless
nonsense on here. Why can't people give a sound comprehensible reason for
retaining racially stereotyping names ? Because there are none.
They can't leave it how it was because names are derogatory slang for
certain racial groups e.g.. Chico means brown and Latino person. We often
aren't aware but in other countries it's more well known. Still such names
can cause us to look down on other races and cultures for their skin color
because we accept such names unaware, without thinking, but it doesn't make
it right, especially for those people named on the lollies.
It's not only political correctness but also humane consideration for
others. Besides racism is illegal and incurrs costly lawsuits.
Plus nestle need to maximise profits with a wholesome public image, not a
bad reputation regardless of whether their business practices are actually
Still it's good to start with what appears right because it affects how
people think. It's wrong to associate the idea of a brown person/brown
jelly baby( lolly) as a Chico that's something to eat. (Chico is a
derogatory term unless used by a person about themselves. It's not something
someone should call a person of a group of whom they don't belong.)
Nestle company good work as my experience in Brisbanecity of Australiaverysuper
work of its service test and best customer support as well as nice advertisement
in city outlet and in the city public nice service is more and more effective to
the all type of customer super nice work
It's not only an issue of who takes offence but also about how names do affect
our thinking subconsciously. We may be used to the names and not give it a
second thought yet growing up with products labelled Coon, Chicos or
RedSkins can taint our view of other races and cultures by making derogatory
slang seem normal and acceptable.
People need to calm down, I really don't care about the name change and if it
makes 1 person feel less marginalised, go ahead! All I can say to the people on
here getting upset is "does it really matter to you, if it does, stop eating
Just be happy your Covid free and alive this Xmas. Blessed Be.
Absolutely ridiculous that anyone can be offended by a lollie !! they have been
called that ever since I was a child , stop trying to change the Australian way
that is just wrong on so many levels, how can this be allowed .I think that
these people need to see a shrink if keep they reading into the name of sweets
ECT. go back to where you came from and change your own country and leave us
Lets get this straight. The Chinese Communist Party deliberately unleashed their
Chinese bat virus on the world killing over 1 million people world wide and the
best Nestle has to worry about is the names of their lollies. Well done Nestle.
I'm Australian too and as a child I saw movies where indigenous Americans
were called Redskins, so some of us know it as a weird derogatory, racist
slang, even if it came from the Hollywood movie industry of the US.
I'm sure there are more important things in life to address, Than a name that
has been around for ever.
Bit Like Black face, I wonder if they will chase the Japanese Ladies who WHITE
FACE for theatre like they did with the Black and White shows (Musicals), that
reminds me of the tribes who White face. Look out Mud people. the PC/s are out
Absolutely stupid. I feel for the companies who are pressured into these name
changes, and would dearly like to identify the idiots who are behind this
campaign, and put them behind bars where they belong.
It did not matter when these products where first named ,so why change now ,are
we going to change the American indian name of Red Skins in old movies ? ..and
Chico will always be slang for boy.....its just getting too over the top
It's done for indigenous Americans once called Redskins and for 'Latin '
indigenous Americans once called Chicos and for all people that don't
support derogatory outdated language for certain groups of people.
Yes a name carries a certain authority as with a long time trusted product,
but names coming from eras when racism was widely tolerated makes them all the
worse. We need to cut some ties with our collective racist past.
Do you think white knight is a derogatory or a superior term? If it were
derogatory , I'm sure you'd want it changed. But because there is pride
associated with it you will probably want to leave it as is.
I would rather that NESTLE stop being a major polluter, stop using unsustainable
palm oil, stop their plastic pollution, stop deforestation in Africa, stop their
human rights violation and using slave labour across the world, stop animal
testing, stop water control in North America, basically it would be better if
Nestle actually demonstrate care by becoming an ethical and sustainable company
instead of cheap marketing campaigns.
Yes, I agree that it's more important to act responsibly than to
(deceptively) appear responsible, but surely they can do both? Language in
the public domain can have deep and wide ranging influence on attitudes
over time, therefore changing the language is much better than not changing
PC has gone too far. There was never any racial undertones linked to these names
until some do-gooder attached it. You can change the names but they will always
be Red Skins and Chico. Get over yourself if you think these names are racist. I
question someone's thoughts that take them to a place of thinking racism is
attached to a few words.
Unnecessary. Chicos means guys or kids in Spanish, it’s not racist. My
Venezuelan Spanish teacher calls us chicos all the time. It’s a Spanish word.
What would be more offensive would be if they called them spics or
However, I think the removal of the image of an american indian from the
redskins packaging was necessary. But these days it’s only old crap spaghetti
westerns that refer to redskins, most kids today wouldn’t know what it means.
I guess the reference to skin colour is still there. But it’s starting to feel
like all the good things from my childhood are all being taken away (or worse -
the recipe changed) to try and meet political correctness. I mean I can
understand if Chico’s were called the N word. But the word itself is not at
all offensive to me.
What a load of old cobblers .I remember years ago when they complained about the
name "Nigger Boy" and the same is happening again by the same lynch mob. I worry
about the contents of the product not the wrapping so just leave it alone you
busy bodies and get another interest in life..
Firstly, I think there should be a reason for the change, maybe to attract more
customers, I know a bakery who own two different types of products, just to
enhance marketing, so this is just a different marketing strategy, I don't think
it's racist, and they will expect more sales by doing this
Madness! Has anyone ever actually thought too much about the name of a lolly
before buying it? Whats next? Why not spend all the money that the changeover
will cost on something worthwhile, such as research into viruses, cancer, etc.
Another example of virtue signalling to appease people who are professional
victims of offence. The names of the products were not ever seen to be racist
except by racists. Yes, the people who are offended are the racists as they see
a problem, the rest of us do not!
Too much emphasis is being placed on a name. Political correctness is placing us
all in a very uncomfortable position of knowing 'right and wrong'. Just get on
with life and stop trying to find things to complain about.
It ridiculous. Leave as it it is. Too much politically correctness. Chicos are
chicos . Redskins are red skins. I have red s KIN and not offended. What about
white rabbits arm I meant to be offended? Rubbish. People don't have enough
intelligence these days .
Is it worth the bother? During the World Wars the names of German Shepherd dogs
and German Sausage were changed to Alsatians and Devon. People still feared
Alsatians after the name change, because of their portrayal in the media and the
association with the German army. People still ate the sausage (yuk) because
food was short. I tend to just remember that they changed the name. Remember
when Nes-lay was pronounced Ness-ls? Still trying to work out why they did
Seriously, generations link these iconic sweets with their true and proper name.
I understand the issues behind the decision but surel go with something better
than what has been suggested.
How about, red sticks. Its simple, explains the lolly. Most of all it doesnt try
to find a name that means nothing.
How about chocolate jubes. Cheekies is inane. They are indeed jubes with a great
Absolute bollocks. Nestle dont care abput anything but money. They are using
child slave labour and deforestation with palm oil is massive, one of the worst
offenders with Pepsi. Will never ever ever buy nestle!!!
I think there are more significant ways of showing respect to Ethnic groups than
changing names of products that many, including myself, don't purchase or
consume, making the names irrelevant. If people still buy them, keep the names.
When people stop buying them, change products.
I think it’s another case of political correctness gone overboard but the joke
is on Nestle. If you google Red Ripper, the new name of Redskins you’ll find
the lovely fact that the name was given to a Soviet criminal who raped and
murdered many women. Don’t believe me you are welcome to check for yourself.
Not happy as we as a country and world have become to POLITICALLY CORRECT ,
these names are so well know because they are confectionery
But due to overwhelming public opinion and people feeling offended then that’s
the new world unfortunately we live in and get used too
Really what next. No name change needed. How can anyone even refer to it as
offensive. We have to stop bowing down to a minority. There are far more serious
issues in this world like violence, starvation and the list goes on.
There aren't any "racist" issues with any of these foodstuffs, and NO reasons to
change their names. Any person objecting to these 'names' does not have a
rationally thinking brain. Look at the history of these confections - there
never has been, and never will be, anything remotely offensive or racist about
them. The objectors should put their efforts into something worthwhile, like
stopping violence on the streets or Domestic violence, leave the non-issues
alone and do some good deeds.
No leave it alone I don't believe anything was ever made with racism in mind
Society these days have gone completely overboard there's too many politically
incorrect morons that are blowing everything out of control
I didn’t think it was necessary for the name change. I don’t believe that
they were named with racism in mind.
Society has become too politically correct with regards to many things, that it
has just become ridiculous.
Take Coon cheese for example: Coon is the Surname of the original founder. How
can your surname be deemed offensive.
Historically, people’s surname often reflected their profession (surname of
Baker reflected that the man was a baker by profession, Smith/Smithy indicated
that the chap was a blacksmith, etc.)
Indigenous names often reflected some aspect of the natural world, Eagle, Rock,
Brown, Black, Bird, Wood, Waters, Fox, Deere, etc.
While some words/phrases/ expressions may have become outdated, meanings can and
do change over time. The term ‘gay’ originally referred to a person of happy
countenance, and not to indicate an individual‘s sexual preference as is
reflected by the current usage and meaning. That doesn’t mean to say that the
original meaning should be struck out as if it never existed.
I’m sure if a poll of the public in Australia was conducted prior to all the
media hype about changing the names of these two lollies, the results would have
showed that few people would have identified both names as being racist in our
society. Remember that what is deemed appropriate in one country/ society/
culture is not necessarily so in another.
I agree. It's ridiculous. I am not offended by the Milky Bar kid having white
skin and blonde hair like I had as a child. I don't understand what is wrong
with these people. Just looking for anything they can use as racist!
I grew up with these names but I was a child - why would I think they would
offend anyone - I was raised without hate for anyone - why change now ? If it
was offensive don’t name it that - geez I’m so over hate
I honestly never thought those names were related to a race. Grew up with those
lollies and never in my life identified the names as racist. I think people are
a bit overboard these days with being politically correct. But if you get people
don’t like the names because they do relate to race then I guess there’s
also no harm in changing them.