60% of respondents in a survey of 25 – 34-year old’s think
JobKeeper and JobSeeker payments should be extended further than the predicted
September end date. While many believe it’s a good way to keep the
Australian economy somewhat steady in uncertain times, others think it’s
just pure laziness. LiveTribers, do you think Millennials are lazy? Are these
payments an excuse for some people not to work? What do you think?
Posted by on 15 Jun 2020
Sorry buy yes. Handouts galore we had nothing like that. Its sounds like a
given. Guys you have to work for it.
They will hold more jobs. Ive had 8. Mostly public service, some private
enterprise i.e banks x2 and optometry.
I undetstand its harden when you have been spoon fed, but we are the tail end of
the baby boombers. We have money saved cant earn inteterest. We have lost too
much in super recently with the recession. 4 years of savings gone.
No time off for good behavior giving to others when in need. Would like to see
whats in store. Kaz x
I don't think you can just say millennials. I think it's accross the board in
any group. Gen x or y or baby boomers. I believe it has a lot to do with the way
a person is bought up and what they have lived with. It's hard to break a bad
cycle but sure it c
an b e done. It's got to be wanted though and not just forced onto the person or
they will generally revert to there previous ways at some stage. Seriously
though I don't think you can just single out millennials.
In these times yes we can say that Millenials are lazy since they get thing
easier nowadays, some of them just depends on their parents money to support
their studies or anything that they like to do. However, the JobKeeper payment
isn't an excuse for people not to work, it's there as an aid for everyone who
can't afford to go out because they might bring the virus at home not knowing
they have it. Everyone is eager to go back to work again and enjoy the life of
being outdoors but we must not risk our lives outside until we know that it's
safe to go out.
learn the art of living and not just existing, life does not evolve around your
phone, gaming and socialising. If you want something you have to earn it, learn
to be employable as the world .owes you nothing, it has given you air to breathe
and water to drink. Your parents gave you life, food and a nappy to shit in.
Now be thankful and develop some skills. learn to develop a life, not everything
is free .
I can only write on my lived experience. Corona Virus has affected my Family
negatively. My son who is 29 & works in Construction, hasn't had his employment
affected. His wife though, was pregnant when she began losing hours & then was
put on JobSeeker. Happily, they've had a healthy son recently. My daughter in
law has no job to return to though. I'ts just fortunate that they chose not to
buy their first home last November, as they were going to. Obviously, some of
these payments have gone to he wrong people & some people have been left without
any social assistance & support. It's an imperfect system. But I really see that
these payments have seen Families being able to put food on the table & balance
their rents, while their worlds spin out of control. I include a link which
discusses the Unemployment figures during this Covid
The Govt didnt think things through. Thats why so many missed the train. I
suggest your daughter inlaw gets on linked in. It is a good site and people
lusten. Atm the unemployment figures are way out of kilter. The real truth has
not been told. Employment counts as 1 hour per week. The government are totally
responsible, deceitful and not transparent.
Not good enough when they give themselves a pay rise. Dont see that happenimg
for anyone else.
Democracy is a joke that why i vote for the only person who is acheiving Jacqui
Lambie. I want her to form a state and federal.party with the best minds. We
need a shift if we are to go forward. Sorry will not play games with the US nor
be humiliated by Chinese.
I am 69 and I know a number of millennials, some relatives, some friends. Some
of the ones I know are downright lazy, will go to any lengths to avoid even
going for a job interview. Others are working hard to get ahead and further
their chosen career. Stand back and look at most other generations, whatever
name you give to their age group I can say exactly the same thing about them. I
believe much of a persons attitude to working/career are taught to them from an
early age, like myself. I was encouraged to further my education, get a job,
look after myself. Can't blame people for the way they were raised, it is hard
to remove years of training. Give everyone a fair go and stop judging others.
I think they should be extended but at a reduced rate. So many industries are
shut and tourism and entertainment won't be as full of activity in the near
future, even if they changed jobs streams -where do all those extra positions
Well, they'd be justified in saying so. How many businesses have died totally
due to covid-19? There are far fewer places available now than in mid-February.
The government chose to shut everything down, so now the system has to pay -
that's just how it works. It's going to take quite some time to get the economy
moving again. Not only that, but certain states that depend largely on tourism &
education, like here in SA, are doomed & need to re-invent everything to have a
hope of recovery. This happened not just due to covid-19, but the Federal
Government managed to really, really piss of China, our biggest trading partner,
multiple times inside of a couple of months. I should know, as I was one of
those who recently completed a lengthy & comprehensive survey run by the State
Government. Results seemed to be funnelled towards moving away from China &
up-tech'ing instead. Of course I argued against it. Millenials, as a whole, have
always sought to work smarter rather than harder. Extending payments is seen not
as bludging, but as partial compensation for the governments collectively
destroying their future. Millenials prefer to work, in their own way & typically
despise handouts. They're as frustrated as the rest of us, but most can't see a
way out. The older generation have the benefit of hindsight & hold varying
degrees of hope that our political system has a chance to return to the good old
days before we had a "political consensus", whereby this country has been ruled
by just one party (not three, but just one), for the past 40 years at least - in
many respects just like China!
Cannot agree with you re China. We relied too heavily on their purchasing goods
and services and not keeping our own manufacturing companies, diversifying
trading partners etc. and now China is stopping some of those areas of trade
and our economy will suffer until we find other trading partners and bring back
our manufacturing companies to our shores. Big business wanted more and more
profit and looked to China and other Asian nations where the cost of workers
etc. was much cheaper and it has come back to bite everyone.
As for shutting everything down due to the covid-19 virus. What would you have
advocated. Everything stay open and people die like they are doing around the
world in their 1000's daily.
I think Qld. needs it's borders to stay closed. Vic and NSW are still having
outbreaks and as everyone can see it only takes one infected person to set it
all off again.
I do not agree with the doubling of the job seeker allowance. Maybe an extra
$100 a week but not doubling. The covid-19 did not make any difference to their
My son lost his job due to the virus and has not received any money and he has a
mortgage and everything that goes with it. His life is greatly affected as has
many others who actually had jobs.
I am of the older generation but in my youth we worked, paid board, bought our
own clothes etc. We took responsibility for ourselves. This younger generation
is all about them and want they think they are entitled to. I am generalising
as there are many great young people but how many times do we hear about the
drugs, the fights, the gangs, parents complaining about their attitudes. All
too often. I disagree they despise handouts. Look at the lines at the dole
office pre virus.
We are nothing like China. We can at least vote our leaders in and out and we
I guess you'd be old enough to recall, so let's see if memory serves correctly.
Do you recall how Australia, somehow, managed under the Whitlam Government, in a
moment of completely contradicting Old Labor ideology that would have had
Curtain & Chiffley turning in their graves, to begin shutting down the auto
industry here (Holden) as well as the clothing & textile industries? That had
nothing to do with China whom we were not really trading with at the time. All
tariffs were lifted & a wave of cheap Japanese imports flooded local markets -
with really damn good air conditioning in many models, I must admit. Even in the
1980's we were still not really trading with China, but a whole heap of cheap
manufactured goods from Taiwan & Hong Kong flooded our markets. Policies of
Protectionism which safe-guarded local industries for decades were shoved aside
in favour of "globalization" policies to make local industries more competitive
& give consumers more variety at cheaper prices... do you recall that argument?
Paul Keating's "Banana Republic" argument held sway & our Publicly Owned bank
was privatized, much to PJK's personal profit. Banks refused family farmers,
small businesses & heavy industry life-saving credit, extensions & the like in
favour of hungrily acquiring mortgage securities. The Federal Government under
PM Menzies dismantled the powers of the Old Commonwealth Bank starting in 1959 &
stopped all Government funded infrastructure projects for growing this country &
improving the Living Standards of the people here. This imperialist agenda all
has nothing to do with China. It is entirely British! Furthermore, the
withdrawal of Chinese manufactured goods is not what I was referring to
initially. That'd be a much slower process than what we're experiencing here
now. our biggest money-spinners here in SA are Education & Tourism, of which
China contributes substantially. Immediately, China responded to the very bad
agenda-driven news article by Andrew Tillet in the AFR which completely took out
of context his interview with our Chinese Ambassador, the full manuscript of
which can be seen on our Chinese Embassy's website. So we have seen the sudden
withdrawal - overnight almost - of students from doing their triple doctrinates
(or whatever) & a total shutdown or tourism - probably never to return due to
the Federal Government's poor handling of the situation. Whether the shutdown
was right or wrong doesn't matter so much as the compensation given to All the
workers affected. For all our frequently boasted "high standards" in medicine,
we have very poor testing & both infections & deaths have been wrongfully
attributed since this all began. Overall, there have actually been fewer deaths
worldwide from all causes due to this lock-down. I guess you have heard of the
great Political Consensus that truely began full tilt in the 1980's, as you can
tell from reading John Howard's autobiography when he boasts of his time in
"Opposition" that the most frequent visitor to his office was Paul Keating &
Howard there & then took credit for all of "his" policies implemented by PJK.
All three major parties here are actually "one" in their collectively agreed
policies. We can protest & vote as much as we like, but in the end you get the
same results whichever way you turn. China for the past 40+ years has been
implementing The American System, much better than we did when we implemented it
full tilt during WW2, & certainly much better than America has been doing for a
long time (& is now more imperialist than it cares to admit). Even the Chinese
people can vote & take surveys that are heeded on every topic from rubbish
collection to bus services. Their government gains its merit from acting for the
benefit of its people.
I used to say lazy and now I say a lot are confused. They get minimal help if at
all and it's really hard to get your foot in the door and gain experience when
you're not covered by insurance of a course or something. So I guess I have
changed my tune somewhat. You are always going to get those that rout the system
In all generations of this age bracket negative aspertions have been cast upon
them by usually older generations. No doubt some Millennials are lazy, self
centred ,digitally addicted and selfish but there are many more who are great
people who earn their way. The problem in our soft society is that the justice
system and woke political correctness causes marginal and small self interest
groups to have far more influence than should occur.
The gutless and self serving media is mainly to blame for that ....you can
chuck the odd Pollie in that group too !!
The millenials that i have come across appear lazy or perhaps apprehensive in
choosing a career . However despite the virus and the safety net , They don't
seem to want to further their education , even if it's a stream that they
originally did not give thought to . At the age they are , i was in the same
boat , though not receiving any governmental benefits , i chose an area that i
never considered or was particularly interested , but i came across an
opportunity to switch mid stream , as i was already registered in college .
Since then i have continually studied in other areas , as a backstop to further
my qualifications which i find impressive on my CV , not so much the
qualification but the fact that i continually further my personal development .
I find the millenials don't have that drive , perhaps they are just
optimistically cautious . I'm not trying to denigrate the millenials , but the
world has changed in many ways , politically , economically not only in trade ,
labour , currency , refugees , warfare , crime , fraud , technology , energy ,
climate , natural disasters , racial divides , unrest and anarchy . Who would
want to be a millenial ? But we need educated young people to take on the
demands that are required to be firm to continue our freedom and democracy . We
are seeing more and more a push to a totalitarian world !
Not all Millennials are lazy, I know several who work hard and are a benefit to
society, however the majority appear to be self entitled and think they are the
centre of the universe and they are owed a living. Bad manners and a lack of
respect for anything and anyone are the norm and they seem to think that
putting anything they want on to plastic and running up massive debts that they
can't afford to repay is OK. It's scary to think that soon the world will be
ruled by Millennials, it'll be a bigger mess than it is now.